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Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin |OT| Your weapons are weak, old man
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yeah that's the one. I didn't have problems the first time. Now that it's lit already it seemed like they're faster and do more damage.
A Lightning Spear like you said the first time is something completely different to a Heide Spear with lightning infusion first is a miracle the later is a spear.
I found the one under Drangleic castle to be the easiest one for Darklurker runs you might want to try that one if you're struggling with that one.
you found the one with Havel and a thousand holes the easiest....?
Remembering the path plus you can just knock Havel 2.0 into a hole its easier than it looks, it's not like Black Gulch with the Abyss Ironclads which are a lot harder to deal with.
I mentioned in a previous post that it was a heide spear. Discussing melee weapons I thought my point was clear. Maybe the miracle lightning spear was viable at one point but one toss with my character and it was pretty apparent to me that it's a piece of crap miracle. Still, I apologize for the confusion, I should have been more clear, and I do appreciate your input on my questions and comments.
V1LÆM
Gold Member
thanks! i have read about that ring but don't feel ready to take on that area yet. i have tried but died a lot. i'm doing the forest of fallen giants at the moment but i will make sure to pick up the ring.
also, how am i to maintain the 25% equip load? i have levelled up the appropriate stat and have 25.3% load. another lvl and i will be fine but i tried equipping a better piece of gear and it went to 30%. do i really need to stick to under 25% or should i be happy with 50% load? i just feel like i will need to constantly lvl up this stat to keep under 25%.
i'm feeling a bit more confident and familiar with the controls of the game now. managed to make a little progress today! i have also obtained the fire longsword and it's at +3 right now. i can easily manage to the area where you look out to the sea and there is a fog gate. also in this area there is an ambush when you go up a protuding structure to reach an item. about 4 enemies fall from above to attack. i guess beyond that fog gate is a boss?
You really don't need to maintain below 25% equipload in this one there's not really a benefit like there is within 1 you'll be fine with with below 70% although your rolls are slightly shorter its not really an issue as the I frames are what you should be concerned with. As for the Forest that's not the boss that's basically the front door of the place you'll know once you meet the bosses, as for the weapon you might want to ditch the fire longsword as it'll come back to bite you. You might have more like with Heide now you've practised a bit more it's somewhat easier than it first appears and is probably the easiest of the starting areas in SOTFS.
brandonh83
Banned
Holeee fuuuuuckin shit this fight I just had with that piece of shit Darklurker, I should NOT have won that fight. Got the Hex master trophy for it too and I think the remaining spells lie in NG+.
There are 4 in NG+ and 2 on NG++ unless you have done all of the PvP stuff IRRC.
It's just 3 from Wellager on NG++ and there's none in NG+ plus.
Don't the 4 primal bonfire bosses give you one with NG+ Souls? I can't remember exactly but I do at least remember needing one off of Lost Sinner .
They do but they're not limited to NG+ as you can get them via ascetics. Sorry I phrased that badly the first time around.
V1LÆM
Gold Member
oh ok that's good to know, thanks. i went back to heide's area and managed to beat all the giant knights! i never made it past the second one when i first played the game. i got right up to that chest but there was someone sitting in front of it. almost killed him but couldn't heal fast enough. beat the giant boss in the forest but the pursuer is killing me all the time. is he an optional boss?
Well I got to the bottom of Brume Tower last night and I have to say, Fume Knight is a real jerk. Tried him roughly 6 times but impatience was getting the best of me. I had him quite close to death twice but he exploited small mistakes on my part and punished me haha. Can't think of another boss that has challenged me quite this much in SotFS so far. Defeating him will be delicious.
V1LÆM
Gold Member
just beat the dragonrider. not sure what way to go now. either through that dark passage with skeletons below the cardinal tower or towards the area after the second bonfire in Heide's. went both ways but had to retreat. i'm lvl 44 right now (swordsman), still use my starting gear (not sure what to replace it with), my fire longsword is +4.
Hmm.... so I could just ascetic the 4 bonfires, beat the bosses, and go to NG+, farm 2 million souls, go to the Shrine, then beat the game and start NG+, farm 3 million souls, go to the Shrine and go talk to Chancellor?
keep leveling up your fire longsword. It's really good for the first half of the game at least.
There's several end game weapons available to you already you can either get a Mace from the blacksmith or farm the Heide Knights for the Heide Knight Sword the fire longsword is really a hindrance and is not a benefit at all plus get some stronger armor from Maughlin. You can press though in either direction with both offering equipment you can use.
The Pursuer is sort of optional but you probably want to do that route realistically as you generally gain more.
Course that's what a lot of people do on the runs for the NG++ gear.
Got really ready for the Darklurker fight. Was doing really well, had her on the ropes. Then somehow I cast Flame Swathe and nothing happens. You can see it below. Afterwards the one next to me does FOUR swipes in a row, which I'd never seen and wasn't ready for so I ran right into it.
http://xboxclips.com/Shadow+XBL/c151dbd8-a548-456f-a569-994236b360db
I hate this stupid boss. I can't move on to NG+ without beating it.
http://xboxclips.com/Shadow+XBL/c151dbd8-a548-456f-a569-994236b360db
I hate this stupid boss. I can't move on to NG+ without beating it.
As much as I've played DS2 I've never managed to use Flame Swathe effectively on a consistent basis. How's your faith? Darklurker melts to lightning damage.
V1LÆM
Gold Member
i've bought the elite knight set from that merchant in majula. not sure if i'll stick with it. i want the set he sells after you spend 16,000 which is the Alva set. not sure about my weapon yet. the fire longsword +4 is easily killing enemies right now but i will probably replace it eventually. i will return to the pursuer. just wondering if he was optional.
i went through that dark passage below the cardinal tower but seem to have hit a dead end unless i've missed something. went back to heide's tower and progressed down towards no man's wharf. i think i've cleared that out as i managed to reach the area where you ring the bell and the ghost? ship docks. that's what i'll be checking out next. also there was a pharros contraption i activated but didn't notice anything happen.
The pharros contraption lights the area stopping the Darkstalkers from moving out of the shadows. Though it's easily killing things now its actually not as strong as it appears both as it is not a innate element which lowers its damage and it dealing split damage on top of that a longsword of the same level is far stronger for example. That path is dead end it leads to something interesting but other than that nothing important.
I think it's like 22. I wasn't having problems with FS until that moment. I cast it right near them and just nothing happened for some reason. I was expecting them to die or be really close to death and I was fooled.
Once he split I used two fire tempests and he was dead. That or heavenly thunder would be a decent way to go I think.
On another note, beat Fume Knight last night. Great feeling. Now the gauntlet to Alonne, who is quicker and more unpredictable than I anticipated.
That was changed for SOTFS.
As she's very weak to lightning heavenly thunder would be the better choice.
V1LÆM
Gold Member
just cleared No Man's Wharf and defeated the boss! i had cleared most of the area but didn't realise i could jump down after ringing the bell. at first i thought i might die but when i went back i seen there was a safe area to jump. got another Branch of Yore so up another estus charge! (at +1. need more sublime bone dust).
i assume i now need to examine that map in the ship for it to set sail. i will go back and check that out but decided to go farm some souls for a bit. i'm at lvl 50 now. picked up a varangian sword which seems better than my fire longsword +4 so will stick with that and see how it goes. also bought a new shield off the merchant in Majula. still using my elite knight armour set. i'm trying to get the merchant to sell me the Alva set. i must be close to having spent 16,000 on him.
i'm definitely settled into the game now. at first i wasn't sure about sticking with it but i'm doing alright. the health/humanity system took a while to get used to but i'm dying a lot less now and have the ring of binding so that's helping a lot. my only real complaint are the bosses. i've only beat 3 main ones so far but they really aren't that difficult and they don't have that same kind of fear i got from the bosses in DS1 and to be honest i think that's what i enjoyed most about the first game. i felt genuinely scared of what was on the other side of that fog gate. so many memorable bosses. taurus, capra, quelaag, O&S, 4 kings, sif, and gwyn. once i defeated them i felt victorious but i'm not getting that feeling here. i know it's still quite early so i will keep playing but if it's just more of the same then i might just stop playing.
i assume i now need to examine that map in the ship for it to set sail. i will go back and check that out but decided to go farm some souls for a bit. i'm at lvl 50 now. picked up a varangian sword which seems better than my fire longsword +4 so will stick with that and see how it goes. also bought a new shield off the merchant in Majula. still using my elite knight armour set. i'm trying to get the merchant to sell me the Alva set. i must be close to having spent 16,000 on him.
i'm definitely settled into the game now. at first i wasn't sure about sticking with it but i'm doing alright. the health/humanity system took a while to get used to but i'm dying a lot less now and have the ring of binding so that's helping a lot. my only real complaint are the bosses. i've only beat 3 main ones so far but they really aren't that difficult and they don't have that same kind of fear i got from the bosses in DS1 and to be honest i think that's what i enjoyed most about the first game. i felt genuinely scared of what was on the other side of that fog gate. so many memorable bosses. taurus, capra, quelaag, O&S, 4 kings, sif, and gwyn. once i defeated them i felt victorious but i'm not getting that feeling here. i know it's still quite early so i will keep playing but if it's just more of the same then i might just stop playing.
That sucks. Oh well, at least the farming still works. Killed Giant Lord like 8 times last night and leveled up a ton. I don't care about PvP, just want to get the 1000G. That'll help me on Darklurker. Gained a ton more Pyro slots and power.
FYI you can't hit him with Pyro when he's in his wind-up. He's immune during that time. Example:
http://xboxclips.com/Shadow+XBL/fd59a2f2-2da4-4fa8-a3d3-c28e83913e72
(I also rolled but the B button didn't register for some reason)
Do you have the DLC? You'll find most of the hardest bosses there. They're really fun too.
The memorable bosses in this one are far later on into the game and in the DLC mainly this game is a lot larger with much more bosses than 1. As for the Varangian sword it is the strongest straight sword by the numbers and scaling.
DarkHeartedKill
Member
Alonne and Fume are two of the hardest, but most well done bosses imo. In regards to Alonne if you
beat him without ever being hit, he commits seppuku lol.
V1LÆM
Gold Member
I don't know, it's SOTFS edition I have. I thought that included all the DLC or do I still need to buy them seperate?
That has all the DLC already.
V1LÆM
Gold Member
thanks!
made a bit of progress today. beat the boss in lost bastille. i thought for sure i was going to die because i ran out of health items but got lucky and didn't take much more damage. didn't have a pharro's key to get to belfry luna so just headed to sinner's rise. beat the lost sinner without too much trouble. since i didn't have the bastille key i had to fight in the dark but i wouldn't say added light would've made it easier. so now i need to decide where to go next. either move that contraption in majula or depetrify the women.
Added light does make it easier mainly you can see her better but as you've already done it I doubt it was of any hindrance to you. Which way you go doesn't make much of a difference in this version although you may find through the contraption easier.
V1LÆM
Gold Member
i have paid 2000 souls to move the contraption so that's where i'm off to next. was farming souls for a little while and ended up in Belfry Luna. Defeated the gargoyles! nice throwback to DS1 boss fight. Got the covetous silver serpent ring +1 so now getting 20% extra souls!
as i understand it, i need to collect 4 great souls but was just wondering how big a part of the game that is? for example, in DS1 i thought the whole objective of the game was to ring both bells but the game just kept going after that and i had to then collect the 4 lord souls. in DS2 do i just need to collect the 4 great souls or is there another goal after that? i'm just trying to get an idea of how much there is to do in the game.
Meccs
Member
Ok, after having played 200 hours of DS2 when it came out I bought the Scholar edition last week thinking I would play it again. After having played now for 5+ hours I have to put it down. The controls feel terrible, combat is a floaty mess that has no weight or impact to it. Half the time I don't even know why something hit me or how I just lost that HP because there is almost no feedback to hits. I can not remember it being that bad! Did they change something in SotFS? I have played this game non stop back in the day, how can it feel that shitty now? It blows my mind! Has Bloodborne and Dark Soul 3 spoiled me that much?
Getting the 4 great souls account for approximately the opening 45 to 50% of the game, there's other goals after that point.
DS2 handles very differently to that of the of the later games in terms of speed but I don't know how you managed 200hrs of vanilla as those things have been there since the start.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
I could switch between Bloodborne and DS2 SotFS pretty easily myself. It was a bit weird at first, especially dodging which was not nearly as generous, but the buttery smooth 60 FPS helped counter-balance it, I think ^^, and I'd get used to DS2's controls just fine after a few minutes. *shrugs*
I just got SotFS after about a year of Bloodborne and DS3 only, and it is totally different. I platinumed vanilla DS 2, but back then I played exclusively sword and shield. Bloodborne really forced me to git sort of okay with dodging, and in DS 3 I mainly dodged with some shield use.
Going back to try SotFS, the controls are so floaty and there are dodges I felt would be perfect in DS3 that I get tagged in. I still really like it because it adds some variety to the series. I think it goes DS1=DS3>DS2>Bloodborne, but they're all really close. (Bloodborne's summons and builds completely broken, environment gets oppressive, but the combat/lore/bosses were really good.)
Tribes of Trusty
Member
As I loved Bloodborne (Beat it with the three endings and 100% the DLC), I did the next logical thing : I bought Dark Souls II SotFS.
Any tips for a newcomer who began with Bloodborne ?
What type of build should I use in order to ease the transition ?
Thanks.
Any tips for a newcomer who began with Bloodborne ?
What type of build should I use in order to ease the transition ?
Thanks.
It's a lot more floaty and you want to invest in AGI till 100 to 120 for more I frames. Builds depend on what you want to use really.
Do you want to be a tank or a more aggressive player? Slow or fast weapons? Magic? Etc.
Tribes of Trusty
Member
Thanks !
I don't know, I really liked how Bloodborne played, so if I could somewhat replicate that to an extent, but I know it won't be the same.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Which weapon(s) did you use in Bloodborne?