Welp.
It's the only way they could not answer by today.
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Deadline approaches on North Carolina's LGBT law, reversal unlikely
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It's the only way they could not answer by today.
Generalpsyduck
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Its been like that for 8 years now its absolutely ridiculous
ElectricBlanketFire
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Correct.
hydragonwarrior
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The hope of the NC government is that people forget like a kid tasting bad medicine and the law is eventually forgotten and/or NC is known for being a place to avoid if you want LBGT protection, joining the ranks of:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-5-worst-states-for-lgbt-people-20141124
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-5-worst-states-for-lgbt-people-20141124
Well that is clearly not happening anytime soon now.
Sapiens
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Serious question, how do these people live with themselves? And the republican party is surprised that Trump is the candidate?
How much of this mess is gerrymandering? Or do people really feel that the GOPs have their best interest in mind?
Patiently awaiting for the day when every NC GOP politician is caught in an airport men's washroom playing footsie...I mean, they all have to be self-hating closet cases right?
How much of this mess is gerrymandering? Or do people really feel that the GOPs have their best interest in mind?
Patiently awaiting for the day when every NC GOP politician is caught in an airport men's washroom playing footsie...I mean, they all have to be self-hating closet cases right?
The GOP does* have their best interest in mind.
*: If you're a rich, white, straight male.
Darryl M R
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It sucks so much for those that will be affected by this but hopefully if the defunding happens a riot starts and they throw this guy out of office.
Generalpsyduck
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How do the students of the University feel about the law i wonder? Do they actully support it?
Grover Cleveland
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He's still in his first term.
You're right. For some reason I invented him getting elected in 2008.
He was too busy ruining Charlotte as mayor back then
YuriLowell
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Is there a good summary of the law somewhere?
Vicetrailia
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This whole situation represents everything that's wrong with Republicans. Can they do anything right.
Fenderputty
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You guys were on the upswing until the Edwards sex scandal
Sweeney Tom
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Loretta Lynch's presser announcing the punishments is in 3 hours and 15 minutes
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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Holy Shit, literally throwing money down the toilet.
March of the Crabs
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I just don't understand why they support this bill so strongly. I have not seen them give ONE strong argument to make me see their point of view.
ElectricBlanketFire
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People are in danger even though they couldn't find any examples of said danger.
Sweeney Tom
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They really really reallllllllllllllllllly don't like any of us in the LGBT+ community. They already lost to us on gay marriage and they fear they're going to lose more in our quest for equality, so they're acting while they can, unknowingly speeding up their future losses in the process
Will this be streamed?
The arguments keep changing too. McCrory went from "protecting women and children" to "privacy."
March of the Crabs
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It's sad that there are still people in power in 2016 that use laws to force their outdated prejudice down people's throats.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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It's the same idea as the voter ID bills where they make up some crime that doesn't actually happen so they can screw over a minority group.
Fenderputty
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Will this prevent any of the punishments from being levied?
GameAddict411
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Sadly people love to believe in imaginary things to make them sleep better at night. The lawsuit is to drag things out as much as possible. The GOP keep demonstrating that they are a bunch of human scum. I really hope that trump succeed to dismantling them slowly in the next few months.
if they can convince a judge to stay the removal of benefits pending hearings... but i have no idea how feasible that actually is
It's an easy issue to pander to and it distracts from other issues the state could be having.
Ultimately we are talking about a minority of people that all of this shit is bring talked about. I bet you that the average person who has insipid imagination on what a Transgender person is would probably never meet one throughout their day.
Plus its not like this law is enforceable in anyway unless you want cops iding people before they enter a bathroom which doesn't exactly speak for smaller government.
Sweeney Tom
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justice.gov/live-stream
McCrory was underwater on his approval ratings before this. Now he's heading into Donald Trump territory without the charisma.
The only reason McCrory won the governorship was because he was seen as a moderate and successful mayor of Charlotte when they got some big federal grants that really helped out the city. Most of those were actually the work of Anthony Foxx, a city councilman who succeeded McCrory as mayor before Obama scooped him up to be the Sec. of Transportation.
After McCrory won the governorship his true colors emerged and his approval rating started heading steadily down. He made comments before about how he didn't think the state should fund things like "gender studies" as curriculum within the university system as it "wasn't helping anyone get a job". So his LGBT phobia peeked out from his "moderate" cover well before this. This was all a play to consolidate his conservative base as he was even losing ground with them up to this point.
He's running against Roy Cooper, the person Dems wanted to run when Bev Cooper retired but he declined, leaving them with a weak field that McCrory capitalized on. When Cooper ran for AG in 2012 literally no one even wasted their time opposing him. Not just in the primary but also in the general, the GOP just surrendered the AG's office of North Carolina instead of wasting a penny against Cooper.
He is going to destroy McCrory. Hell, I'm betting that he and Hillary Clinton are effectively going to have a synergistic bump resulting in Clinton winning NC in the electoral college while Cooper beats the polling targets and runs McCrory's ass out of office decisively. He has said the first thing he's going to do is get rid of HB2.
That is how this will be settled. The state's lawsuit will stall until November, Cooper will win, and the state legislature will cave in an attempt to save face knowing that with both the federal government and their governor directly opposed they have no hope of keeping the bill. As of last summer polling indicated that 15% of the people in NC approved of the legislature's job to date while 60% disapproved.
Also, while NC is a trifecta state currently the legislatures are less partisan than many other states. They have some of the most impressive gerrymandering in the country in play as the only thing enabling them to hold on at present, and that gets harder and harder every cycle. North Carolina is turning blue, fast, and the actions of the governor and state legislatures of late are the death rattles of social conservatism like we saw a few years ago in Colorado.
Full disclosure - I know all this because I've been reading up on NC politics for a while now since I just got a promotion that requires relocating from St. Louis, MO to Asheville, NC.
DrForester
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Moral issues aside, and the fact that I've never been in a Republican Restroom where apparently genitalia are proudly waved around (Bathrooms I go into have these things called stalls), my one question to Republicans pushing this would be simply, "how would you enforce this?"
Do they expect people to be carded to use the restroom? I know there was that story about the gay woman being harassed by cops a few weeks ago, but is that seriously what they want to see happen? Any woman who looks or dresses in a masculine way should be carded? Feminine looking men should be carded?
Do they expect people to be carded to use the restroom? I know there was that story about the gay woman being harassed by cops a few weeks ago, but is that seriously what they want to see happen? Any woman who looks or dresses in a masculine way should be carded? Feminine looking men should be carded?
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Zaraki_Kenpachi
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As a North Carolina noob this is a fantastic post. One question: What exactly can Roy Cooper do to HB2? Remove it via executive order? Does the NC Governor have that kind of power?
Team Alucard
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HB2 only applies to public institutions iirc, private companies are allowed to set their own bathroom policies. As Governor he could issue an executive order barring discrimination based on gender identity (like the new LA governor recently did) in public institutions which would pretty much dispel that provision HB2.
I'm not sure if he would have the authority to reverse the "Cities cannot set their own anti-discrimination laws" provision which is honestly the far more offensive and damaging aspect of the bill.
Monocle
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These assholes don't even have a plausible pretense for their bigotry. Like, are there any instances of trans people causing issues in bathrooms? Any at all, much less a pattern so troubling that it calls for immediate action?
Pathetic hateful cowardly morons. The least they could do is own up to their baseless discrimination.
Pathetic hateful cowardly morons. The least they could do is own up to their baseless discrimination.
DrForester
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Pattern? No. But I'm sure they've dug up one or two random, isolated incidents to rally Round.
hodayathink
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The governor of South Carolina actually has political aspirations outside of being the governor of South Carolina (she's been talked about as one of the "rising stars" of the Republican party before).
HUELEN10
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I know how bullshit NC's been lately, and I know how transphobic and ignorant they've been, but even so, you have to admit this country as a whole, even with its least progressive state, is still miles better than some other nations of the world where there mere fact of being queer can get you killed.
Thankfully, some of the people of NC also don't necessarily subscribe to the bullshit notions of the state, they are fighting for what's right, fighting for equality and against this; they should not stop fighting, and I stand with them.
Even at its least accepting and least progressive points when it comes to queers, as a queer American, I can never forget that we are still leagues ahead of other nations, and many steps behind some as well.
This is coming from a queer person who is only protected, recognized and considered a protected class in a SINGLE state by the way.
I was thinking how they will loose TOO MANY money.
Take 1% of that money (which is 14 millions) and divide equally to every trans people who would use the university's bathrooms ... trans people are by definition a very small minority so it would be like what ? 50 people MAXIMUM ? That would be like 280 thousand dollars to everyone so they don't pee at university =P
I would have accepted a lot of money so the education of everyone does not get fucked up by the goverment .... and this way trans people are happy because they received lots of money and the university is happy that they got their billions
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