truffleshuffle83
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anyone pick this up for xbox yet??? post impressions stat!!!! i saw it ebgames yesterday and im debating between this or the new ghost recon or both depending on how this is. thanks in advance gaf
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DELTA FORCE: BLACK HAWK DOWN ????
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Outcast2004
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Truffle..search buddy. i think there's already like 3 threads for this game. Your answers should be contained therein.
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I hear this is one multiplatform game that is better on PS2.
truffleshuffle83
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but xbox allows 50 player deathmatch on live IIRC ps2 is 32. and about searching the game just came out yesterday so appearantly no one has givin impressions yet because there is nothing on the first 2 pages about it. i hate how people love to jump down your throat about the search function. get over it and dont reply
Outcast2004
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Then just post in those threads. Bump them up, someone will respond. I'm sure of it. unl;ess this game is a total bomb and no one bought it.
I was being nice about it.
I'm looking for impressions myself, but I thought I'd spare you from the Nazis getting crazy about it.
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=56809&highlight=black+hawk
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=56777&highlight=black+hawk
I was being nice about it.
I'm looking for impressions myself, but I thought I'd spare you from the Nazis getting crazy about it.
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=56809&highlight=black+hawk
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=56777&highlight=black+hawk
truffleshuffle83
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aight outcast i found the other thread. mods lock this up if needed. 50 players on live sounds sweet but this game looks dated so im not sure its worth it. especially since ill play it for like a week until ghost recon hits
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truffleshuffle83 said:
I rolled around some ugly forums looking for impressions. Apparently the Xbox version is a lot uglier, despite the higher amount of players online. There also seem to be a fair number of bugs in both the servers and gameplay (wall glitches, etc.) They improved the PS2 single player, it has better graphics, some added weapons/gameplay elements, etc. but I haven't heard how the online is yet. I liked the PS2 demo, but before hearing all of this I was planning on getting it for LIVE. No more. Maybe PS2 version down the line.
Apharmd Battler
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After playing for several hours yesterday, I have to say that I reallyl like the game. I'll try to post some impressions later, but I've been at home sick for the past week, and the stuff has reallyl iled up here at work in my absence. I'll try to elaborate more later. 
Apharmd Battler
Member
I spent most of yesterday afternoon and evening with the XBox version of this game and I have to say that once I figured out the games nuances I was hooked for 6 hours straight. The there are a few minor things that I don't like but I'll get to that in a second. I have to give Novalogic props for pulling this off on the XBox. I'm also a huge fan of their PC games, and I played the PC version of this game some time ago. It was the kids in my neighborhood that got me hooked on the PC multiplayer. LEt me go ahead and make this disclaimer now, graphic whores look elsewhere. The Novalogic games have never been know to blow you away wth state of the art graphics. The graphics in this game aren't bad at all, but they're a step above Counterstrike. If you're looking or the Unreal Warfare engine (UC2) or Splinter:CT then don't even bother. Now what I've ALWAYS liked about the Novalogic Delta Force game are the HUGE maps, and the impressive draw distance. What make this game fun for me is the map topography, e.g. ther ability to go in buildings, or climb to rooftops and shoot across great distances. Remeber that scene from Full Metal Jacket where the solider got sniped and they couldn't tell where the shot came from? There are plenty of moments like this in this game due to the map architecture. The maps in this game are some of the biggest you'll find in any multiplayer game. So I can cut some slack on the graphics (which are better than average). If you have Battlefield 2 for the PC, don't expect to get your socks blown off. But it definately looks better than the Battlefield 2 XBox demo, IMHO.
Now the single player game is decent at best. The recticule isn't the greatest and due to the bland graphics, on dusk, dawn, and nightime maps it's hard to spot the enemy. It's particlarly a nuisance in this game since you can be shot form anywhere, if an enemy has time to take aim. So at first you make think the game A.I. is cheap, but actually they're just cutting you down because you don't know (or can't see their location). Some missions the objectives can be a little confusing, again for the reason I listed above, but a large part of this is due to the fact that most game spoon feed you on what to do. But it's not that hard to figure out. Once you get the hang of thegame the sinlge player is a snap. BUt to be honest, I wouldn't by this game for the single player alone. It's OK, but there a tom of titles that are a lot more fun. You have limited control over your squad (and you can use voice commands if you have the headset), but the team A.I. won't blow you away it did in Rainbow Six 3, or especially Brother in Arms. But they get the job done, just not as polished as the two games I mentioned. Also the zooming with sniper rifles is a little different than most games. You click the right thumbstick and then hold it down to zoon in even closer. The thing that I'velike about the game is that the aiming is very realistic (i.e. like Brothers in Arms) were you look down the sights of the weapon, but the accuracy is there so if you can take the time to set up a shot it'll pay off. Like in real life you can hit someone on a roof with an M16, but not from shooting from the hip, you'll have to set up shop a bit, but it is possbile. So snipers really have to focus on getting dug in someplace. There was on eguy who kills my squadmates and I for like 2 minutes straight because we could not locate his position. In most games the maps are so small that you can eventually figure it out, in this game you have to look focus, He could be on a roof or in a window.
Which brings up a VERY important detail, it's all about setting waypoints. That's the best way to navigate the terrian and get around. Just hit the back button and it brings up the map. Up and down on the D-pad scroll it in and out, left and right moves your pointer to set a waypoint. So if you need to get to the armory just move left until the pointer selects it. It'll then draw a line between you and the location, you still have to navigate there through the environment, but this helps in keeping you from getting lost or confused. You can also easily rewad you coordiantes to tell you buddies where you are. Also any stationary weapons and vehicles (even moving) show up on the map. So everything is layed out if you take the time to learn how to use the interface.
This game for me is ALL about the multiplayer. Yesterday I jumped onto one of Novalogics's dedicated severs for a 64 player deathmatch game (only 43 people were online at the time) which is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of (i.e. Spawn, die, kill, repeat X infinity). But actually you can host pretty sizeable games on an average network connection. So I am assuming that Movalogic ported over their proprietary netcode from some of the PC game to XBL (i.e. like the awesome Joint Operations: Typhoon Rising). With an average connection you should be able to support 12-16 players easily. I was playing with some friends I know with fat pipes and we played 20-32 player game with relatively no lag. A few hiccups every now and then, but the games were smooth, and the voice chat was clear. So it looks like Novalogic has delivered the good as promised.
The multiplayer games consist of Deathmatch, Team Deathmatch, Team King of the Hill, Searhch and Destroy (my fave), Attack and Defend, CTF, and Flag Ball. If you have questions just ask. You start the game you setup your player profile and you establish your default class (medic, sniper, close quarters, gunner). During the game you can change your class or loadout by findnig the armory bunkers on the map. So you can change strategy and adapt. Also ther eare vehicles that are auto piloted on some of the maps. They are constantly on the map and have set patterns. So if you see a HumVee caravan, jump in and man the .50 cal and mow down the opposition, you see a helicopter, jump in and it'll take off and you can man the minguns or snipe. But remember that in vehicles you're a sitting target. LIke I said the maps have stationary weapons as well. So climb to a rooftop and man a mingun and shoot those guys out of the copter for instance.
O.K. this post is getting pretty long, let me just surmise by saying while the game is far from perfect, if you get with the right group of guys (like my pals over at ZeroCommit.com), this game is a blast to play. The sheer size of some of the maps, and the huge number of playersmake it something unique to console online gaming thus far. It's no Battlefield 2, or Ghsor Recon, but it does enough of it's own things to seperate it from the masses and flood of FPS game on consoles. I wouldn't recoomend buying it for the single player campaign, but I would defiantely say you need to check out the multiplayer to see if it's your cup of tea. The learning curve can be a little difficult, dut to the lack of info in the manual but luckily I played the PC version and spent a bunch of time online figuring things out. I know many may not like this game and have certain tastes. BUt keep in mind that I was a fan of the PC version, and gameplay and teamtactics are more important to me than graphics. This game is definately better than Close Combat: First to Fight. It just depends what you like, if you want to try something different then stay away. I'd give it an 8.0 for the multiplayer, as a single player game I'd give it a 7.2.
The only real negative I have is the same negative I have with Halo2, and Conker:BFD online.....too many jerks. Of course no one read the manual and jumped online and complain how the game sucks, but then asked dozens of questions on how to play. Everybody was expecting it to play like Ghost Recon or Halo 2, which this game does not. So some may wnat to wait for Ghost Recon 2: Summit Strike next week. I like it ans at least a dozen of my online pals like it, so I'm all set. If interested I storngly suggest you rent before you buy!
Sorry for the long post, and jumping around, but I wanted to give a decent overview of this game. It'll be easy to dismiss by those who haven't sat down with it. If you have it and want to play drop me a PM.
I'll be chekcing out the PS2 version this weekend, to see how it plays and compares for myself.
Now the single player game is decent at best. The recticule isn't the greatest and due to the bland graphics, on dusk, dawn, and nightime maps it's hard to spot the enemy. It's particlarly a nuisance in this game since you can be shot form anywhere, if an enemy has time to take aim. So at first you make think the game A.I. is cheap, but actually they're just cutting you down because you don't know (or can't see their location). Some missions the objectives can be a little confusing, again for the reason I listed above, but a large part of this is due to the fact that most game spoon feed you on what to do. But it's not that hard to figure out. Once you get the hang of thegame the sinlge player is a snap. BUt to be honest, I wouldn't by this game for the single player alone. It's OK, but there a tom of titles that are a lot more fun. You have limited control over your squad (and you can use voice commands if you have the headset), but the team A.I. won't blow you away it did in Rainbow Six 3, or especially Brother in Arms. But they get the job done, just not as polished as the two games I mentioned. Also the zooming with sniper rifles is a little different than most games. You click the right thumbstick and then hold it down to zoon in even closer. The thing that I'velike about the game is that the aiming is very realistic (i.e. like Brothers in Arms) were you look down the sights of the weapon, but the accuracy is there so if you can take the time to set up a shot it'll pay off. Like in real life you can hit someone on a roof with an M16, but not from shooting from the hip, you'll have to set up shop a bit, but it is possbile. So snipers really have to focus on getting dug in someplace. There was on eguy who kills my squadmates and I for like 2 minutes straight because we could not locate his position. In most games the maps are so small that you can eventually figure it out, in this game you have to look focus, He could be on a roof or in a window.
Which brings up a VERY important detail, it's all about setting waypoints. That's the best way to navigate the terrian and get around. Just hit the back button and it brings up the map. Up and down on the D-pad scroll it in and out, left and right moves your pointer to set a waypoint. So if you need to get to the armory just move left until the pointer selects it. It'll then draw a line between you and the location, you still have to navigate there through the environment, but this helps in keeping you from getting lost or confused. You can also easily rewad you coordiantes to tell you buddies where you are. Also any stationary weapons and vehicles (even moving) show up on the map. So everything is layed out if you take the time to learn how to use the interface.
This game for me is ALL about the multiplayer. Yesterday I jumped onto one of Novalogics's dedicated severs for a 64 player deathmatch game (only 43 people were online at the time) which is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of (i.e. Spawn, die, kill, repeat X infinity). But actually you can host pretty sizeable games on an average network connection. So I am assuming that Movalogic ported over their proprietary netcode from some of the PC game to XBL (i.e. like the awesome Joint Operations: Typhoon Rising). With an average connection you should be able to support 12-16 players easily. I was playing with some friends I know with fat pipes and we played 20-32 player game with relatively no lag. A few hiccups every now and then, but the games were smooth, and the voice chat was clear. So it looks like Novalogic has delivered the good as promised.
The multiplayer games consist of Deathmatch, Team Deathmatch, Team King of the Hill, Searhch and Destroy (my fave), Attack and Defend, CTF, and Flag Ball. If you have questions just ask. You start the game you setup your player profile and you establish your default class (medic, sniper, close quarters, gunner). During the game you can change your class or loadout by findnig the armory bunkers on the map. So you can change strategy and adapt. Also ther eare vehicles that are auto piloted on some of the maps. They are constantly on the map and have set patterns. So if you see a HumVee caravan, jump in and man the .50 cal and mow down the opposition, you see a helicopter, jump in and it'll take off and you can man the minguns or snipe. But remember that in vehicles you're a sitting target. LIke I said the maps have stationary weapons as well. So climb to a rooftop and man a mingun and shoot those guys out of the copter for instance.
O.K. this post is getting pretty long, let me just surmise by saying while the game is far from perfect, if you get with the right group of guys (like my pals over at ZeroCommit.com), this game is a blast to play. The sheer size of some of the maps, and the huge number of playersmake it something unique to console online gaming thus far. It's no Battlefield 2, or Ghsor Recon, but it does enough of it's own things to seperate it from the masses and flood of FPS game on consoles. I wouldn't recoomend buying it for the single player campaign, but I would defiantely say you need to check out the multiplayer to see if it's your cup of tea. The learning curve can be a little difficult, dut to the lack of info in the manual but luckily I played the PC version and spent a bunch of time online figuring things out. I know many may not like this game and have certain tastes. BUt keep in mind that I was a fan of the PC version, and gameplay and teamtactics are more important to me than graphics. This game is definately better than Close Combat: First to Fight. It just depends what you like, if you want to try something different then stay away. I'd give it an 8.0 for the multiplayer, as a single player game I'd give it a 7.2.
The only real negative I have is the same negative I have with Halo2, and Conker:BFD online.....too many jerks. Of course no one read the manual and jumped online and complain how the game sucks, but then asked dozens of questions on how to play. Everybody was expecting it to play like Ghost Recon or Halo 2, which this game does not. So some may wnat to wait for Ghost Recon 2: Summit Strike next week. I like it ans at least a dozen of my online pals like it, so I'm all set. If interested I storngly suggest you rent before you buy!
Sorry for the long post, and jumping around, but I wanted to give a decent overview of this game. It'll be easy to dismiss by those who haven't sat down with it. If you have it and want to play drop me a PM.
I'll be chekcing out the PS2 version this weekend, to see how it plays and compares for myself.
ToyMachine228
Member
I know this thread has been shunned, but I just thought I'd note that IGNXbox has reviewed the game and the score is...Forbidden.
6.8
6.8
SpeedingUptoStop
will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
FUCK,I wanted this one to hold me over until I got some Burnout/Lockdown loving this september. This sucks...
Apharmd Battler
Member
To heck with IGN, They gave Close Combat: First to Fight an 8.0 and that game is absymal! I will agree that this game is a 2 year old PC port. But didn'yt they give Counter Strike for the XBox got a 7.9?! And it was an old PC port. I'm not slamming them for thier view, but I thinkthe offerings of the multiplayer should bump at that score a little. Hey like I said to each his own. Rent it and see for yourself. I can't say I'd recommend it at full retail because of the mediocre single player campaign. I'm am enjoying the multiplayer and I'm satisfied. After GR2:SS, Rainbow Six 3: Lockdown, Starwars: Battlefront 2, and Far Cry: Instincts, it's all about GR3 and Call of Duty 2 on the XBox 360 anyway.
truffleshuffle83
Banned
apharmed you fuckin rawk for the impressions..... that said im waiting till summit strike hits next week. its only $30 and barring some catastrophe it should be awesome
Apharmd Battler
Member
SonnyBoy said:
Hard to say. I like the BF2 XBox demo as well, and keeping an eye on it myself. While the two games are similar each offers its own experience. You really need a good group of people to play with to truly enjoy either game (i.e not rabid potty mouth 14 year olds yelling racial slurs and homophobic taunts every 15 seconds. Which I'm sure BF2 will have it's share of). I think the major reaosn why some are harsh on it is becuase they are impatient and expect games to blow them away 5 seconds after you press start. Like I said above, this game aint gonna do that for you. But remember why you played Team Fortress and Counter Strike so religiously.
I'm tempted to tell you to wait for BF2 since it has more exposure and many have sampled the online demo and it's something new for console players. DF:BHD is a nearly 3 year old PC port with a very bland single player game, but the multiplayer is fun as hell especially when you're in a large multiplayer game. There's nothing else like it on a console today. Like I said, rent it and see if it's to your tastes. I was a little undewhelmed at first but once I learned the game interface and played with some good guys, I truly like it for what it is. Nothing beats a 20+ Search and Destroy game in DF:BHD. I love the nice big open environments. Like I said what this game lacks in looks, it more than makes up for in map architecture and number of players. Rent it and make up your own mind.
Apharmd Battler said:Hard to say. I like the BF2 XBox demo as well, and keeping an eye on it myself. While the two games are similar each offers its own experience. You really need a good group of people to play with to truly enjoy either game (i.e not rabid potty mouth 14 year olds yelling racial slurs and homophobic taunts every 15 seconds. Which I'm sure BF2 will have it's share of). I think the major reaosn why some are harsh on it is becuase they are impatient and expect games to blow them away 5 seconds after you press start. Like I said above, this game aint gonna do that for you. But remember why you played Team Fortress and Counter Strike so religiously.
I'm tempted to tell you to wait for BF2 since it has more exposure and many have sampled the online demo and it's something new for console players. DF:BHD is a nearly 3 year old PC port with a very bland single player game, but the multiplayer is fun as hell especially when you're in a large multiplayer game. There's nothing else like it on a console today. Like I said, rent it and see if it's to your tastes. I was a little undewhelmed at first but once I learned the game interface and played with some good guys, I truly like it for what it is. Nothing beats a 20+ Search and Destroy game in DF:BHD. I love the nice big open environments. Like I said what this game lacks in looks, it more than makes up for in map architecture and number of players. Rent it and make up your own mind.
Thank you for the compare and contrast. Im pretty sure I have you as a friend on XBL. I think we discussed SC:CT in private messages before. I'll definately give this a rent over the weekend. I'll be looking out for you so that I can get a feel for the game with people who play how they're supposed to.
Apharmd Battler
Member
truffleshuffle83 said:
Well to be honest, I pre-ordered DF:BHD back when GameRush was doing that trade in two get a new game for $29.99. So I it's not like I paid full retail for it. We all know the GR2:SS is going to be awesome, so wait and save your cash if your funds are tight. All I'm saying is don't diss this game base based on some reviews. Everybody playing Halo 2, Conker, or preview copies of GR2:SS, and BF2 anyway. So I'm sure this game didn't get it's day in the sun. I personally think it's worth a few bucks to rent and check out. I tried to give enough info for you to make an informed decision. I hope it helps.
P.S. excuse my typos above, I was typing while I was hungry, and there's no way in hell I'm going to try to edit the huge freaking post.