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Dengeki: 'Revolution is finished' !?

Ugh, please let that not be true. I like Pikmin OK, but have no desire for Smash Bros., Wario Ware or a cooking game at the moment. I really, really hope Metroid is ready. I'm not expecting Mario to be, but I would love that as well.

Original EAD Revolution Game
Please note there is no Pikmin 3 in development at the moment. However, the Pikmin team is the highest suspect of delivering that new EAD IP Iwata and Miyamoto are promising for Revolution's debut in 2006.

Super Smash Bros. 3
I think Nintendo is dead set on releasing this game for 2006. I think part of the reason why Nintendo created a new studio just for the development of this game is so it could add as many freelance people as it needs throughout the development process. If this were being done inside Nintendo, then it wouldn't be able to keep taking away resources from other projects into Smash. Nintendo also doesn't like outsiders working inside Nintendo, and then leaving with "information". Therefore, this temporary Nintendo studio can hire all the people it wants to keep a 2006 deadline for Smash Bros. Then it can fire everyone! Well, I think more likely than not after Revolution Smash, a smaller subset will remain to develop SmasH Bros for the Nintendo DS. Then either Nintendo will keep the studio or hire a few people to work inside Nintendo.

Wario Ware
The franchise is big in Japan, and Nintendo doesn't spend too much money developing it. If you look at the Revolution teaser, all those are actual game ideas from Nintendo. It is very probable for launch or near launch, although nothing has been announced.

Cooking With Nintendogs
The Nintendogs team is responsible for the Cooking Revolution demo. While there is no official announcement that the cooking game will be released, Hideki Konno has mentioned it is a consideration. Regardless, this team will be one of the first teams working on Revolution software at Nintendo.

Metroid Prime 3
The game is officially in development. There is no guarantee that this game will be at launch considering how expansive it will be. There is also the factor that it will follow Hunters and considerably improve the lame multiplayer in echoes, with a Wifi and multi-character online function for the Revolution.

Super Mario Bros.
The game is officially in development. Iwata has confirmed a small gameplay detail in that Mario will have a new sidekick in this one. However, Iwata has backtracked and expressed doubts in this game meeting Revolution launch. The series has found a new producer, new director, and a new direction. Nintendo does not want this game to be another Mario Sunshine.

Donkey Kong
Nintendo is poised on resurrecting Donkey Kong to the mainstream. The game has been confirmed sans any Kongas or peripherals. This time you will play Donkey Kong in a new way using the Revolution controller. No details as to when we can expect this one.
 
Shikamaru Ninja said:
Cooking With Nintendogs
The Nintendogs team is responsible for the Cooking Revolution demo. While there is no official announcement that the cooking game will be released, Hideki Konno has mentioned it is a consideration. Regardless, this team will be one of the first teams working on Revolution software at Nintendo.

:O Korean killer app!

i kid because i love

ninja: Maybe not your area of expertise, but what do you see Nintendo's western devs roles being in Revolution? Retro seems like a fairly big team to just be working on Metroid, again. And NST seems to be stuck on DS. Do you think Nintendo is even considering any more Silicon Knights/Factor 5 type partnerships for Rev?
 
Japan would be set if they got both Wario Ware, a new IP, and Super Smash out for launch. The Wario Ware franchise is tremendously popular there. If Nintendo's new IP is anything good. It will most likely sell well. The last 5 or so franchises that they brought into Japan sold really well. Wario Ware, Pikmin, Brain Training, Nintendogs, and Jump Super Stars. I probably skipped a few on the GBA. I know Starfi did well also. Hopefully that trend continues.

Then America would be good to have Metroid and Super Smash out at launch. Then EA probably could provide the fillers. I wouldn't be surprised if Ubisoft has a few good launch games either.

Edit: Hmm. I forgot about Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles. I don't know when that could come out. That would do well in both America and Japan.
 
Wow, thanks for all that info.

Shikamaru Ninja said:
Metroid Prime 3
The game is officially in development. There is no guarantee that this game will be at launch considering how expansive it will be. There is also the factor that it will follow Hunters and considerably improve the lame multiplayer in echoes, with a Wifi and multi-character online function for the Revolution.

I wonder if they're hinting at it being more expansive than the first two Prime titles. I would love to see some wide open areas to explore. I probably won't mess with the multiplayer too much, unless it totally rocks, but I just hope they don't focus on it to the detriment of the single-player game.

Shikamura Ninja said:
Super Mario Bros.
The game is officially in development. Iwata has confirmed a small gameplay detail in that Mario will have a new sidekick in this one. However, Iwata has backtracked and expressed doubts in this game meeting Revolution launch. The series has found a new producer, new director, and a new direction. Nintendo does not want this game to be another Mario Sunshine.

That new sidekick piece of info is news to me, I'm not sure how I missed that one before, even though it really doesn't say much. I hope the game is great, I liked Sunshine just fine, as I played it before Mario 64.

What do they mean about new producer? Someone to accompany Shiggy? I know they wouldn't replace him altogether.
 
Executive Producer
* Satoru Iwata
Responsible for the entire management of Nintendo. Approves all decisions

General Producer
* (Shigeru Miyamoto, Takashi Tezuka, Kenji Miki)
Each is responsible for management of several development divisions. Approve game ideas and assign development teams to projects

Producer
* (Hideki Konno, Katsuya Eguchi, Takao Shimizu, Hiroyuki Kimura, Shinya Takahashi, Eiji Aonuma, Yoshio Sakamoto, Tadashi Sugiyama)
Each is responsible for management of a specific development division. Approve ideas for specific games and manage team and development process.

Director
* (Toshio Suzuki, Mitsuhiro Takano, Yoshiaki Koizumi, Kiyoshi Mizuki, Kenta Usui, etc)
Each is responsible for management of specific game. Leader designer and team leader.


That is the general process of EAD. Pick and choose the new Mario team from there.
 
PeachSmasher said:
so do u know what Kojima is working on?
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I dunno :P
 
Launch predictions:

August/September '06: Japanese launch with Wario Ware, Smash Bros. and something from Nintendo as yet unannounced, along with a few third party titles.

November '06: American release with all of the above (bar any obscure japanese-only releases), plus Metroid Prime 3 and a few sportsy-type games.

God only knows when in 2007: European release with barely a quarter the other regions' then-lineup.

Given the time scale, I think Metroid Prime 3 is pretty much a given for American launch, Nintendo will (or at least should) be looking at it as something to kill Halo 3's hype before it's even started, and try to take a chunk of that corner of the market. As such, it wouldn't surprise me at all if there was a much more fleshed-out, online multiplayer in this iteration, which seems to me as something that the control scheme would be well able to handle.

As already said, the amount of resources devoted to Smash Bros. seems to quite clearly indicate how dedicated Nintendo are to getting this out of the door on launch day, so I'd say that's a bit of a no-brainer.

Likewise, Wario Ware simply makes sense, it wouldn't cost a huge amount to make, and it'd be great for Nintendo to experiment with the new controller.
 
Thraktor said:
God only knows when in 2007: European release with barely a quarter the other regions' then-lineup.

If NGC's scoop is to be believed, Europe will get it in 2006. Personally, I hope they do.

If the Revolution were finished, developers wouldn't have alpha kits. Or at least, the developers that are actually working on games and not "leaking" specs wouldn't have alpha kits.
 
I bet the launch line up is Super Mario Rev, Metroid Prime 3, sports games, x-game, Super Monkey Ball 3, and some type of Sonic game.
 
Ulairi said:
I bet the launch line up is Super Mario Rev, Metroid Prime 3, sports games, x-game, Super Monkey Ball 3, and some type of Sonic game.

Sounds vaguely close to the GameCube lineup, minus Prime and Sonic.

My educated guess, launch lineup in NA:

-Metroid Prime 3 (Nintendo)
-Original Title (Nintendo)
-Mario Platformer (Nintendo)
-Sports (3-4 titles) (Electronic Arts)
-More Sports (2-3 titles) (Take 2)
-Tony Hawk (Activision)
-Ports (5 titles) (Various 3rd Party)

Launch Window:

-Original Title (3rd Party)
-Obligatory Ports (5-6 games) (3rd Party)
-Smash Bros. (Nintendo)

Shortly thereafter (Jan-Mar 07'):

-Original FPS Title (Ubisoft)
 
the games that got me hooked at cube launch were...

Rogue squadron, Remake, and the video footage of spaceworld Zelda.

i could live with

Mario 128, Metroid3, and TP for a bit till a few titles rolled in a month or two down the line. Although a good horror game ala remake, eternal darkness would be nice too.
 
WindyMan said:
If the Revolution were finished, developers wouldn't have alpha kits. Or at least, the developers that are actually working on games and not "leaking" specs wouldn't have alpha kits.

Sorry...I'm easily confused, what do you mean to say here?
 
I think it's possible that Nintendo may have different sets/bundles for Revolution. A cheaper barebones set to really extentuate value to casuals/non-gamers and a more "hardcore" package that's more ideal for the people who were gonna buy the system anyways. They've done it in the past with the NES & SNES and they're doing mad bundles now with NDS & GCN.

Maybe I was reaching with the cheaper one being $100, but that's only 'cos (if they only have one basic package at launch, and it's $200) they basically lose the pricing advantage to Microsoft's X-BOX 360 "core" pack which might be $250 by the time Revolution releases. Even if they have a $200+ set, I still think they'd need a cheaper bare-bones set for $100 (or as some of you are suggesting $150).

To the "it's gonna sell out at whatever price it is early on, so why not sell it for more" and the "Nintendo wants to maximize profits" arguments, obviously Revolution is gonna be the cheapest system to make and thus quickest to profitability, so I don't think that's *that* much of a concern for Nintendo. Plus the true profits will come from peripherals (remote-controllers, classic shells, ethernet adaptors, DVD dongles, and possible HDD, LCD or other extra peripherals) which I think Revolution will be primed for...not to mention the supllimentals from the game downloads.

Here's my kookie theory...the Revolution should be quick/easy to build 'cos of it's simple design and Nintendo will be using the same manufacturing partners/plants they used for GCN and the train of thought for a while now is that Nintendo may be launching last. The theory is that they maybe planning to launch with TONS of units available so that A) they can build a larger userbase quicker (a cheaper price would only help this), B) to take advantage of competitors hardware shortages and C) have the strongest launch 'cos of point A & B and having more time to build up a strong software line-up. Reggie keeps saying that the launch period is very important for them...and I agree.
 
DrGAKMAN said:
I think it's possible that Nintendo may have different sets/bundles for Revolution. A cheaper barebones set to really extentuate value to casuals/non-gamers and a more "hardcore" package that's more ideal for the people who were gonna buy the system anyways. They've done it in the past with the NES & SNES and they're doing mad bundles now with NDS & GCN.

Maybe I was reaching with the cheaper one being $100, but that's only 'cos (if they only have one basic package at launch, and it's $200) they basically lose the pricing advantage to Microsoft's X-BOX 360 "core" pack which might be $250 by the time Revolution releases. Even if they have a $200+ set, I still think they'd need a cheaper bare-bones set for $100 (or as some of you are suggesting $150).

To the "it's gonna sell out at whatever price it is early on, so why not sell it for more" and the "Nintendo wants to maximize profits" arguments, obviously Revolution is gonna be the cheapest system to make and thus quickest to profitability, so I don't think that's *that* much of a concern for Nintendo. Plus the true profits will come from peripherals (remote-controllers, classic shells, ethernet adaptors, DVD dongles, and possible HDD, LCD or other extra peripherals) which I think Revolution will be primed for...not to mention the supllimentals from the game downloads.

Here's my kookie theory...the Revolution should be quick/easy to build 'cos of it's simple design and Nintendo will be using the same manufacturing partners/plants they used for GCN and the train of thought for a while now is that Nintendo may be launching last. The theory is that they maybe planning to launch with TONS of units available so that A) they can build a larger userbase quicker (a cheaper price would only help this), B) to take advantage of competitors hardware shortages and C) have the strongest launch 'cos of point A & B and having more time to build up a strong software line-up. Reggie keeps saying that the launch period is very important for them...and I agree.
Enough of your stupid theories. They're always wrong.

Your guess is as good as mine, but seriously, Gakman, all of yoru weekly theories about the revolution have been WRONG.

*reads what he typed*

... yeah, I'm cranky, and I think it's time to go to sleep. :lol Sorry, Gak. No hard feelings.
 
My theory on how/why/when they launch the system sorta has been standing for a while. It just makes sense that they'd do it this way, especially if (as alot of people believe) they're releasing their system last (as in after PS3).

While Sony & MS are using shortages as the "this item is too hot to stay on shelves" selling point, Nintendo could sneak in with TONS of Revolution units redily available, under the radar, and before they know it they (MS & Sony) may be kicking themselves for playing the less supply/false demand card they'll inevitably be playing.
 
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