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Denis Dyack Video Interview (Too Human)

Don't worry about the haters, they are a VERY SMALL percentage in this case. TS and Eternal Darkness were excellent games and most people agree on that.

This is GAF. You can't start a thread about anything without haters showing up to derail things. Anyone wan't to talk about the actual interview? Or just Dyack's weight gain and whether or not ED is any good.

Damnit.
 
snatches said:
Don't worry about the haters, they are a VERY SMALL percentage in this case. TS and Eternal Darkness were excellent games and most people agree on that.

This is GAF. You can't start a thread about anything without haters showing up to derail things. Anyone wan't to talk about the actual interview? Or just Dyack's weight gain and whether or not ED is any good.

Damnit.
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"Ignore the opinions of people who don't follow the majority slant"

???
 
Amir0x said:
"Ignore the opinions of people who don't follow the majority slant"

???
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I didn't say "ignore", I said "Don't worry".

I'm not sure why someone would come into a thread about a Denis Dyack interview and derail it by hacking on Eternal Darkness.
 
snatches said:
Don't worry about the haters, they are a VERY SMALL percentage in this case. TS and Eternal Darkness were excellent games and most people agree on that.

This is GAF. You can't start a thread about anything without haters showing up to derail things. Anyone wan't to talk about the actual interview? Or just Dyack's weight gain and whether or not ED is any good.

Damnit.
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Yeah, it does seem that most threads here get derailed with worthless 12 year old trolling within the first 10 minutes.
 
To help restore this thread:

The interview was really excellent with Dyack answering questions about what would happen if Too Human flopped and the trilogy was never brought to fruition.

He talks about the mythology behind Too Human and how it has affected the type of game they want to make.

He makes some interesting points about our reliance on technology and the myth of modern tech saving time.

They seem to be planning on making each game in the upcoming trilogy stand on its own legs and the way he kept promising "no cliffhangers" seems to almost be a promise that we won't see a Halo 2 type ending to any of their games.
 
Well it's nice to know that each game in the trilogy will have an ending with closure so that each chapter will be self-contained.
 
snatches said:
I didn't say "ignore", I said "Don't worry".

I'm not sure why someone would come into a thread about a Denis Dyack interview and derail it by hacking on Eternal Darkness.
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Only speaking for myself, I came in here not to derail the thread but to comment on the stupidity of CPL_Cain using gamerankings to prove the objective "quality" of a title or that people who dislike ED are bitter nintards.

And specifically to comment on your approach, you're never going to have worthwhile discussions if all you do is circle jerk. So I think that's something that everyone probably has to get over.
 
I wonder how this game will turn out. It sounds cool, but many games have sounded like great ideas, but the execution was the issue. I still have hopes for this one.
 
Amir0x said:
Only speaking for myself, I came in here not to derail the thread but to comment on the stupidity of CPL_Cain using gamerankings to prove the objective "quality" of a title or that people who dislike ED are bitter nintards.

And specifically to comment on your approach, you're never going to have worthwhile discussions if all you do is circle jerk. So I think that's something that everyone probably has to get over.
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Yeah, that was a lame post by CPL_Cain, but the response only went to further derail the thread. Oli fixating on his weight gain didn't help either.
 
snatches said:
Yeah, that was a lame post by CPL_Cain, but the response only went to further derail the thread. Oli fixating on his weight gain didn't help either.
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Yeah, Oli is definitely Oli.

To sort of get back in topic, even though I had my reservations with ED... I am very excited about Too Human. It's one of my most anticipated 360 games because of the direction they're heading with it. It's very appealing to me so far.
 
You are entitled to your opinion. And I am also entitled to use a compilation of other objective opinions to illustrate to you that your opinion happens to be in the marginalized minority. Sorry you didn't like that being pointed out, but hey, that's my objective opinion. Don't bother with any evidence you have to the contrary, since that would be an immature maneuver... apparently. Come to think of it, our entire evidence based judiciary system seems totally screwed. "I object, your honor". "Wait, you can't object, that's totally immature dode". Sounds like a bad episode of Phoenix Wright. Circle jerking seems to be ok with you, as long as you're the one getting the handjob.

It's pretty difficult to formulate a response to worthless one-liners like "OMG t3h fatass", "thiz gaem will sellz li3k monkey turds", and "SK only ma3ks crap". I mean let's be real here, this thread was derailed long before I asked the nintards to reveal themselves.
 
PhoenixDark said:
Too Human will do well, because unlike their previous games this one actually appeals to a large audience of the console's userbase.
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What happened to RE4 on the PS2 then? One of the greatest games of the last 5 years...

But in reference to Dyack, after the fiasco of his numerous misleading comments during the development of ED and MGS:TS...well
 
Cpl_Cain said:
You are entitled to your opinion. And I am also entitled to use a compilation of other objective opinions to illustrate to you that your opinion happens to be in the marginalized minority. Sorry you didn't like that being pointed out, but hey, that's my objective opinion. Don't bother with any evidence you have to the contrary, since that would be an immature maneuver... apparently. Come to think of it, our entire evidence based judiciary system seems totally screwed. "I object, your honor". "Wait, you can't object, that's totally immature dode". Sounds like a bad episode of Phoenix Wright. Circle jerking seems to be ok with you, as long as you're the one getting the handjob.

It's pretty difficult to formulate a response to worthless one-liners like "OMG t3h fatass", "thiz gaem will sellz li3k monkey turds", and "SK only ma3ks crap". I mean let's be real here, this thread was derailed long before I asked the nintards to reveal themselves.
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Wow. It seems you totally failed to grasp any aspect of why your comment was dumb.

Discussing problems with X game, or reasons why you like X game? Fine. Worthwhile discussion.

When someone says "I didn't like what they worked on before, specifically Y game was pretty mediocre" and you respond "LOL, really!? That's not what GAMERANKINGS has to say!" Guess what you look like? A fucking retard. It brings up no valuable new points, has no objective worth in a discussion about said title, and generates nothing but veiled attempts to hide behind media consensus. It clearly demonstrates that you are incapable of thinking for yourself.
 
Cpl_Cain said:
You are entitled to your opinion. And I am also entitled to use a compilation of other objective opinions to illustrate to you that your opinion happens to be in the marginalized minority. Sorry you didn't like that being pointed out, but hey, that's my objective opinion. Don't bother with any evidence you have to the contrary, since that would be an immature maneuver... apparently. Come to think of it, our entire evidence based judiciary system seems totally screwed. "I object, your honor". "Wait, you can't object, that's totally immature dode". Sounds like a bad episode of Phoenix Wright. Circle jerking seems to be ok with you, as long as you're the one getting the handjob.
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You fail at GAF.

It's pretty difficult to formulate a response to worthless one-liners like "OMG t3h fatass", "thiz gaem will sellz li3k monkey turds", and "SK only ma3ks crap". I mean let's be real here, this thread was derailed long before I asked the nintards to reveal themselves.
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Really.... I would like to see those exact worthless one-liners in this thread. :D
 
Denis is a shape shifter

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Amir0x said:
Yeah, Oli is definitely Oli.

To sort of get back in topic, even though I had my reservations with ED... I am very excited about Too Human. It's one of my most anticipated 360 games because of the direction they're heading with it. It's very appealing to me so far.
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Yes. And if I understand what they are trying to accomplish:

1) A God of War type combat system but much deeper.

2) A futuristic man vs machine, man is machine storyline

3) Fused with Norse mythology

This sounds awesome.

edit: shit guys I am really trying to keep this on topic.
 
snatches said:
Yes. And if I understand what they are trying to accomplish:

1) A God of War type combat system but much deeper.

2) A futuristic man vs machine, man is machine storyline

3) Fused with Norse mythology

This sounds awesome.
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I agree. I imagine sort of a Matrix done right with a norse slant for story, and with awesome dynamic battle system. I'm a big fan of God of War too... so when they used that comparrison, it was appealing to me.

snatches said:
edit: shit guys I am really trying to keep this on topic.
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:lol

Sorry snatches, I should be SETTING AN EXAMPLE... but I'm awestruck at the response from Cain!

Edit: duckroll, loli avatar? :lol
 
once again, very very interesting concepts from Silicon Knights. let's just hope that this time they actually pull it off, and bring everything together.
 
snatches said:
Yes. And if I understand what they are trying to accomplish:

1) A God of War type combat system but much deeper.

2) A futuristic man vs machine, man is machine storyline

3) Fused with Norse mythology

This sounds awesome.

edit: shit guys I am really trying to keep this on topic.
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The questions is whether they are able to get everything managed in time. They had to cut several things off from MGS TTS, but they still had to delay it.
 
Shiggy said:
The questions is whether they are able to get everything managed in time. They had to cut several things off from MGS TTS, but they still had to delay it.
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Well from the interview it sounds like they have a huge team working on the title. And that Microsoft is the perfect partner. Absolutely perfect. So awesome.
 
I agree, ED was full of cool ideas, but none of them really worked that well. If I can refill my magic health and sanity in about 15 seconds by running in circles, that's a problem. Hopefully this time they will be able to flesh out their ideas more effectively.
 
Amir0x said:
Wow. It seems you totally failed to grasp any aspect of why your comment was dumb.

Discussing problems with X game, or reasons why you like X game? Fine. Worthwhile discussion.

When someone says "I didn't like what they worked on before, specifically Y game was pretty mediocre" and you respond "LOL, really!? That's not what GAMERANKINGS has to say!" Guess what you look like? A fucking retard. It brings up no valuable new points, has no objective worth in a discussion about said title, and generates nothing but veiled attempts to hide behind media consensus. It clearly demonstrates that you are incapable of thinking for yourself.
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I wasn't exactly responding to a point by point post about why ED wasn't good. I was responding to the following one-liner: "Eternal Darkness was average at best". You're just upset because I don't share your opinion, and have proof that my opinion is shared by the vast majority of game critics. I don't need to waste time doing a point to point with you. What would that accomplish? We'll go round and round for about 2 hours about this and that, and then when we're finally done arguing, you'll still think the game sucks while I still love it. Explain the logic of this fruitless excercise to me.

So instead of engaging in all of that pointless garbage, you say "X game sucks", and I say "most people disagree and here's the proof". Then we get back to the discussion at hand rather than subjecting everyone to a pointless debate over the finer points of collision detection and combat animations, none of which will change anyone's opinion of the game.

Also, I have to say that stooping to juvenile name calling doesn't exactly help the case you're trying to build for being the superior intellect here.
 
Cpl_Cain said:
Yeah, it does seem that most threads here get derailed with worthless 12 year old trolling within the first 10 minutes.
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Cpl_Cain said:
It was on GameCube and wasn't made by Shiggy. So of course it sold like shit.
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Cpl_Cain said:
And it's not on GameCube - the burial grounds for 3rd party content. :lol :lol :lol
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Seriously, are you a joke character?
 
another gamecube port... PDZ and Kameo says Hi..

hopefully this will be good.. I expect gameplay vids at E3.. don't let me down :)
 
olimario said:
Everyone fixated on his weight when he was losing it. Why is it suddenly off-limits when he's gaining it back?
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Isn't it sad when GAF is more interested in the weight of a game developer over his game?

Pretty pathetic, actually.

Anyway, here's hoping Too Human delivers.
 
WarLox said:
another gamecube port... PDZ and Kameo says Hi..

hopefully this will be good.. I expect gameplay vids at E3.. don't let me down :)
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:lol Dude, SK has been mulling over this game since the original playstation days.
 
Nutter said:
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Nintendo salary^^^^...................................................MS salary^^

No wonder he left nintendo; he couldnt get anything to eat. :lol
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:lol

Not bad nutter, not bad. Good Mazaq
 
I could never have guessed that this thread would turn into a debate on the merits of Eternal Darkness and/or analysis of Dyack's weight!
 
I'd love to hear more about Too Human as well. But you can bet that on top of Dyack's own want not to spoil anything, Microsoft no doubt has to give permission to discuss any new Too Human details, which is something that probably won't happen until E3.
 
Sci-fi action game,that has been getting hype for close to ten years since it's original unveiling for ps1,has MS backing SK as the publisher...is there anyway this game WON't fucking sell well?

oli has lost it
 
Thats the nig difference here. You can bet that Microsoft will promote the hell out of this game. Unlike how Nintendo and Konami fouled up with Eternal Darkness and MGS:TTS respectively. Remember, its being made with MS Game Studios so just like Gears of War and Mass Effect, MS has a big interest in making sure the game does well, especially since it is a trilogy.
 
Ark-AMN said:
I'd love to hear more about Too Human as well. But you can bet that on top of Dyack's own want not to spoil anything, Microsoft no doubt has to give permission to discuss any new Too Human details, which is something that probably won't happen until E3.
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I'm not expecting full disclosure, just a little taste. A tease to make you look forward to E3 all the more.
 
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