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[David___]

Pre order cancelled.

Edit: Seriously though, kinda refreshing seeing a AAA T FPS

 

[Curufinwe]

Lack of blood/gore is fine since you get other indicators of your shots landing.

 

[Gaz_RB]

I feel like Destiny is perfect at T. I feel like they hit a perfect tone (from what I can tell from the released material/alpha) and I think to make the game rated Mature they'd have to add in things that would clash with the old school and pure sci-fi tone they have. They don't need things like tons of cursing, an alien strip club, or dismemberment in this game. Some games are improved by things like that (Gears wouldn't be Gears without chainsaws), but Destiny seems perfect as it is. Cool to see a Teen rated FPS, and I think it will help the sales.

 

[electroflame]

No green lines in Destiny?

Pre-order cancelled.

 

[Plinko]

Damn I was really hoping for a mature shooter. As an adult, kiddie shooters just don't do it for me any more.

Wat

What is a "kiddie shooter" that has blood, violence, and sexual themes?

 

[GeoramA]

A T rating for a blockbuster AAA shooter is pretty incredible. Dunno how Uncharted pulls it off either.

 

[BPoole]

Halo should be rated T as well

 

[Hexa]

Honestly, I think this will result in less 12 years olds buying the game. Awesome!

 

[Vire]

This game is gonna be huge.

 

[DNAbro]

Wat

What is a "kiddie shooter" that has blood, violence, and sexual themes?

Splatoon

Spoiler

Kappa

 

[SykoTech]

Works for me. Not really interested in Killzone/Gears style shooters anyway.

 

[Izayoi]

Wat

What is a "kiddie shooter" that has blood, violence, and sexual themes?

Pretty sure he was being facetious.

 

[Stinkles]

i've always had this theory that microsoft asked the ESRB for an M rating to make the series seem more mature but of course i have no proof.

Hardly. It doesn't work like you think it does either in sales or process. Games aren't horror movies.

 

[maneil99]

Pre sure the only reason Halo was rated M was the flood and the language. Also Halo 1 had you pull a guys fricken skull out of his head

 

[Tadale]

I always thought that Halo didn't need to be M.

 

[thoseAREmySHOES]

I'm just going to echo the opinion that the rest of the Halo series really didn't deserve the M ratings.

 

[Stratosphere]

I for one am outraged.

Spoiler

Day 1

 

[Ridley327]

That's what I assumed the rating would be after playing the alpha. Anyone know why the Halo games even rated M, Arkham City was much more gruesome than any of them.

They actually went into specific detail about why Halo: CE was rated M back in the day, but the gist of it is that the biggest bones of contentions are that the blood could spill onto objects, and some thematic stuff that the ESRB felt was too intense (the example cited was Keyes' death in the first game). Otherwise, the series has been very PG-13 in terms of violence.

 

[WhiteRabbitEXE]

Pre sure the only reason Halo was rated M was the flood and the language. Also Halo 1 had you pull a guys fricken skull out of his head

Language? Halo has always been pretty minimal on language. I think they only ever said hell and damn, right?

And it's not any less gruesome, but it was a neural implant, not his entire skull.

 

[DedValve]

Not edgy and mature enough. I'll stick to call of duty. Hold that L Bungie.

 

[Vire]

I guess the main reason Halo is M is because of the animated blood.

Destiny doesn't really have that.

 

[Altered Juice]

i've always had this theory that microsoft asked the ESRB for an M rating to make the series seem more mature but of course i have no proof.

it was because of the flood

 

[molnizzle]

I honestly forgot that games had ratings now that I've gone digital. I have no idea what any of my recent games were rated.

T seems appropriate for both Destiny and Halo though.

 

[sjay1994]

With dialogue like that wizard came from the moon, that T rating makes more sense.

 

[Shaanyboi]

huh. That's kinda surprising. Cool.

 

[mj1108]

sales disaster confirmed

reasons cited being not mature enough for mature gamers who play mature games for mature people

...who are the most immature people of all.

 

[catmario]

It'll be more easier to sell to teenager.

I expected this when I noticed destiny doesn't have hard gore.

Maybe this is more good choice for business part.

 

[Rastafarian42]

Wouldn't surprise me if so many more copies will sell because of this.

First thing I thought about.

 

[Doffen]

Hardly. It doesn't work like you think it does either in sales or process. Games aren't horror movies.

Halo 5 will be PEGI 18, right?

 

[therealminime]

Not really surprised as most of the Halo games have always felt like they could get away with being "T" pretty easily.

 

[TEH-CJ]

I guess the main reason Halo is M is because of the animated blood.

Destiny doesn't really have that.

I wish it had it though. One of the coolest things in Halo CE is the battlefield covered in alien blood. Only thing I disliked about Destiny.

Other than that, its incredible.

 

[Eusis]

I'm impressed that it's not M.

Should help sales too.

If you played the game it makes a lot of sense. No blood or gore, and even blowing heads off has the head vanish and be replaced by a light stream. If it got M we'd be seeing an inverse PG-13.

 

[7DollarHagane]

Kind of surprising considering you can do headshots that remove the heads of humanoid enemies.

No blood or gore though so i guess it makes sense.

 

[Muscle Wizard]

Dark Souls 2 is rated T and it has pustular dick monsters and a boss made out of writing corpses.

 

[TheBaronOfNA]

I have quietly been hoping for this every since those first Destiny slides leaked. Makes me really happy.

Get lost, grimdark self-serious warfuckery. I'm gonna shoot some moon-wizards and go on knightly space adventures.

This so much.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Funny enough, Microsoft sent these out before Halo's launch

i remember print ads with the teen rating

 

[JordanN]

Damn I was really hoping for a mature shooter. As an adult, kiddie shooters just don't do it for me any more.

Edit: /s

This is all Splatoon's fault. Now every shooter is gonna be 4 Kidz™.

I kid.

 

[Squire]

The way it's going for a Star Wars feel, I imagine that makes it easier for kids to get hold of is a plus.

 

[AniHawk]

I kid.

#partoftheproblem

 

[Dusk Golem]

Bungie just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about how ERSB ratings effects gamers perceptions and expectations (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in Japan where you can become successful by making family oriented titles and appealing to younger audiences. If you screw up your ERSB rating in America, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the american public, after seeing the new ERSB rating with the T letter on the front cover, is not going to want to purchase Destiny for any system, nor will they purchase the stupid DLC. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Bungie has alienated an entire market with this move.

Bungie, publicly apologize and cancel the T rating or you can kiss your business goodbye.

 

[Eusis]

This is all Splatoon's fault. Now every shooter is gonna be 4 Kidz™.

I kid.

It might be just what the industry needs.

 

[BiGBoSSMk23]

I could see Halo 4 pushing the boundaries with half-nude Cortana

But then again Mystique is only PG-13 in X-Men

To be fair, teens can be exposed to the concept of the nude human figure in the proper context. If it illicits a sexual response than that's just nature, not the game's fault.

 

[EatinOlives]

I did notice the lack of blood and gore.

Honestly, it was pretty refreshing. Over-the-top violence is getting too, well, over-the-top. I'm desensitized to the whole thing. In fact, constantly seeing blood splatters, gibs, and exploding heads all over is just visually distracting and not at all novel anymore. I very much prefer subdued violence in favor of me being able to see wtf is going on.

 

[-PXG-]

The rating that the Halo series should have had.

It did then 9/11 happened.

 

[FyreWulff]

Also, M ratings don't result in more sales.

An M rating is actually a notable hit to your potential sales.

Even T dampens them a bit.

The vast majority of sales and profit is in the E market.

 

[robotrock]

preordered cancelled fuck this game fuck dark souls 2
respect the mature gamers they were your fans first

 

[Silky]

It did then 9/11 happened.

That's just sill--....

Huh. Halo did release two months after the fact.

 

[Deku Tree]

Nothing wrong with T.

 

[Bgamer90]

http://nextgenerationgamer.com/2014/06/16/destiny-rated-t-for-teen-by-the-esrb/

Rated T for:
Blood
Drug References
Language
Sexual Themes
Violence

All this stuff but yet it's still rated "T". Guess it being a sci-fi game helped.

 

[Mortemis]

I remember reading an interview about how Bungie was hoping for a T rating. Glad they got it.

I can't remember what interview it was, I think it was the ign interview with one of Bungie's founders.

Edit: Yep, he plays it with his 5 year old. Here's the interview portion if anyone wanted to see.

The subject turns to families. I learn that Jones has three young children and tell him about my two-year-old, and we discuss how gaming still fits into our busier-than-ever lives. This leads me to wonder how he avoids going all Spielberg on us, potentially losing his creative edge and making watered-down games for his kids. But first, does he play games with them?

“It’s fun to play games with the five-year-old,” Jones says. “He loves it. It’s amazing. He’s drawn to it.”

What games?

“Just random stuff. Destiny, we play that.”

I jokingly ask if he had his son sign an NDA. “We’re working on a turn-based tank game, an Advance Wars type of game together, which he thinks is awesome,” he answers. “What else have we done? Tons of iPhone stuff…”

Back to Destiny and his co-op time with his young son. What about the violence? It is a first-person shooter, after all…

“There are guns and there’s violence in Destiny,” he replies after a thoughtful pause. “It’s very interesting to see my son’s reaction to violence. But I’m very happy that he can play Destiny. It’s not over the top or scary for him. I’m not ashamed of it. It’s something that…” He pauses to consider the question again. “Maybe if it wasn’t a game that I made, I would have waited another couple of years, but I’m very proud of what we’re doing in that we… What am I trying to say? That it’s not violently pornographic or something.”

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07...reaks-11-year-silence-talks-design-philosophy