[Destructoid] Leaked photo of NX controller?

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There are two notable differences between this and the patent: the pentagonal stick gates and the handles. I can see why the gates would change, but why remove the handles? And if you're making a 3D-printed fake, why omit the handles? And the lack of outright denials by anyone who might even come close to knowing better just rubs me the wrong way. Not sure what to believe yet.
 
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Some of the posts and people posing as insiders in this thread are embarrassing...
 
The best 1st party games this generation on Wii U weren't by EAD. This is pretty much telling. TW101, Bayonetta 2, SSB4, Xenoblade X. These are the best Wii U games. As for best Nintendo games in the long time, I have many exemple of amazing games released on Wii or 3DS that are beyond any Nintendo's efforts on Wii U.
This is nonsense or maybe I don't understand what kind of metric is this. Why should good developers/games come from a definite studio when we talk about Nintendo? The same company that put money and believed in the projects you mentioned?
So I guess that Tropical Freeze doesn't count, for example, but 3D World (fucking awesome game) does. And what about MK8, Splatoon, Mario Maker? Maybe some of the people who worked on those were outsourced, how do we calculate that?
 
The only thing I feel is inevitable about the new controller is it'll have a screen and a NFC reader in it, no way they abandon amiibos and I think they can improve on the screen but they won't scrap it.
 
This is nonsense or maybe I don't understand what kind of metric is this. Why should good developers/games come from a definite studio when we talk about Nintendo? The same company that put money and believed in the projects you mentioned?
So I guess that Tropical Freeze doesn't count, for example, but 3D World (fucking awesome game) does. And what about MK8, Splatoon, Mario Maker? Maybe some of the people who worked on those were outsourced, how do we calculate that?



I said EAD. I consider Monolith Soft as Nintendo. Heck, I said 1st party Nintendo titles.
It's not only about putting money. The reason I said a definite studio is because EAD is, by any metric, one of the best, if not the best as far as I'm concerned, video game studio in the industry.
And when such a studio, in which I have a lot of expectations, doesn't do as good as they used to, I say it.

Monolith Soft is considered internal Nintendo, now. Also, MK8 was leagues better than 7.


Did I said otherwise ? I said EAD. THis is inherent to Nintendo's structure. Retro Studio also is internal Nintendo.
 
Didn't EAD make the wonderful Pikmin 3, Mario Maker Splatoon, Mario Kart 8, 3D World, and are working on Zelda?
They also made Nintendo Land which was really good for a pack in.
Bayonetta 2 and W101 are probably my favorite games so far this gen, but EAD is still the best in the business and have been releasing excellent titles.
They'll benefit from the shared library so they wouldn't have to divide resources between 2 3D Mario/Mario Kart games but they did a good job so far (as long as they don't mess up Zelda)
Also, Xenoblade X is super ambitious but it's not better than most of the previously mentioned games
 
This is nonsense or maybe I don't understand what kind of metric is this. Why should good developers/games come from a definite studio when we talk about Nintendo? The same company that put money and believed in the projects you mentioned?
So I guess that Tropical Freeze doesn't count, for example, but 3D World (fucking awesome game) does. And what about MK8, Splatoon, Mario Maker? Maybe some of the people who worked on those were outsourced, how do we calculate that?

I actually agree EAD kinda struggled on Wii U this gen and their best games mostly came from other Nintendo teams. The content in many of their games felt kinda light especially at launch and the gameplay was sort of derivative. There are exceptions and this is just compared to previous gens. Also output seemed down overall.
 
Wait what? Did I miss something??

Just search each page for that xsape guy. Here's one post just above mine: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=198716427&postcount=5304

Classic, vague, second hand commentary that's unsubstantiated and riddled with maybes. The best part is this guy reckons no-one knows what NX is, even the developers working with the system.

Junior member (new account) + abstract, speculative posts about something they may or may not know + "just keeping the hype going!" comments = fake, always.
 
Does Nintendo ever communicate about.. anything?
Not Nintendo. Just anybody with a devkit (or with knowledge of the hardware).

Though somebody pointed out that even calling a fake a fake might conceivably break the NDA, which seems kind of weird, but I guess possible.
 
Not Nintendo. Just anybody with a devkit (or with knowledge of the hardware).

Though somebody pointed out that even calling a fake a fake might conceivably break the NDA, which seems kind of weird, but I guess possible.

SuperMetalDave, who's been abducted by the Nintendo ninjas recently, has said in some of his videos that the NDA surrounding the NX is one of the most restrictive his sources have ever seen since working in this industry.

So yeah, you probably can't confirm or deny anything, you can't talk about it at all.
 
Sometimes I'm question myself if there isn't some kind of club/forum on darknet that knows all the information of the nx and just laughing at us ☺️
 
There are two notable differences between this and the patent: the pentagonal stick gates and the handles. I can see why the gates would change, but why remove the handles? And if you're making a 3D-printed fake, why omit the handles? And the lack of outright denials by anyone who might even come close to knowing better just rubs me the wrong way. Not sure what to believe yet.

Feel the same, although it wouldn't be the first mockup to omit the handles. Seeing as the patent seems to describe a self contained handheld, I would have been surprised if a real handheld came with giant handles as standard.
I like how the picture implies a kind of bowl shape rather than a thin flat slab, at least that's how it looks to me with no sides being visible, the devkit connector shows it's got a bit of depth to it and the guy says it looks like a bar of soap, should feel good if not too slippery.

The pentagons are just abstract shapes as far as I can tell and if anything represent the stick tops rather than the gates, the patent talks about the damaged pixel groups around the cut out hole being conveniently covered by the tops of the sticks (sounds messy to me) but the photograph uses a different method with a rubber or plastic lip.
 
Übermatik;198726497 said:
Assuming it's between developers, I doubt it. Not much point. Would be overkill. And inconvenient.
Devs have already got a venue for such on the Internet anyway. Not for discussions of the nature this thread incorporates necessarily.
 
Sometimes I'm question myself if there isn't some kind of club/forum on darknet that knows all the information of the nx and just laughing at us ☺️

Don't Miyamoto and the others in Japan have a special forum? I think it was in an Iwata Asks or something. I know there was a special forum made when the 2011 Earthquake happened, I think that's how Brownie Brown was asked to help with 3D Land IIRC.
 
Übermatik;198724003 said:
Just search each page for that xsape guy. Here's one post just above mine: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=198716427&postcount=5304

Classic, vague, second hand commentary that's unsubstantiated and riddled with maybes. The best part is this guy reckons no-one knows what NX is, even the developers working with the system.

Junior member (new account) + abstract, speculative posts about something they may or may not know + "just keeping the hype going!" comments = fake, always.

If I'm not mistaken, he was confirmed by mods, otherwise he would be banned.
 
At this point (after Wii and Wii U) I would be really surprised if Sony's plans are that heavily influenced by Nintendo's moves.

Not trying to sound harsh, but Nintendo's been irrelevant for too long in that type of race.

You can't deny the timing is too suspicious tho.
Nintendo has been talking about regular upgrades across multiple devices so they don't have to start from scratch every gen for quite some time now. Then you have Microsoft taking a similar approach with WUP and now, Sony is doing a "mid-gen" upgrade when NX is around the corner.

I agree with you that Nintendo (alone) didn't force/influence Sony to go with PS4.5 but when you see your strongest competition (Microsoft) doing something similar as the weakest one (Nintendo) then obviously there's something going on in the industry.
 
The only thing I feel is inevitable about the new controller is it'll have a screen and a NFC reader in it, no way they abandon amiibos and I think they can improve on the screen but they won't scrap it.

I wish they would, because it was clearly a mistake.
 
I actually agree EAD kinda struggled on Wii U this gen and their best games mostly came from other Nintendo teams. The content in many of their games felt kinda light especially at launch and the gameplay was sort of derivative. There are exceptions and this is just compared to previous gens. Also output seemed down overall.

Their 3DS output was exemplary. Better than handheld output last gen.
 
Honestly, the image in the OP would imo work really well for a handheld. It's basically perfect for JRPGs and CRPGs. Like I wouldn't mind taking a stab at KOTOR with it since the thumbsticks would remove the problem of shitty movement on a touchscreen.
 
If I'm not mistaken, he was confirmed by mods, otherwise he would be banned.

I think you might be getting him confused with trev?

His last post says the opposite

Voltaire your correct i have because thats tge truth im a an older man not a kid so i dont have to lie, all i am doing is breathing a bit of positivity to thread and yes hope!

My friend is a top developer who works for a certain western development house. They thankfully are priviledged with nx kit. However all the person can tell me is what i have said before and from knowing that person for years thats enough.
If you choose to believe great if not so wat.

Can not be verified because they are under strict ndas . But i carnt wait for reveal.

Wont tell me anything about system or controllers so your correct i dont know much at all just that he knows his stuff!
 
Übermatik;198730627 said:
Well I'll eat my words if true. Still doesn't change the fact his 'info' is empty anyway.

Poster above is right--I was mixing him up with Trev. And you are right--he isn't saying much of detail, but his post history shows he admits that all the way through. He never claims to be an insider and just says he has friends under strict NDA who can't tell him anything other than they like it.
 
Sometimes I'm question myself if there isn't some kind of club/forum on darknet that knows all the information of the nx and just laughing at us ☺️

It's not unlikely, since I've happened to be a member of such forums (music and gaming). We indeed laughed about the peasants which did not know about our existence, knowledge, contacts and resources but ultimately it only took one person to poison the well for everyone. :(
 
It isn't photoshopped from what most photoshop detection apps could find. If fake (which it likely is), this was fabricated in a physical manner.
I'm still trying to figure out what a "photoshop detection app" is. As someone who's worked with Photoshop and visual effects for a long time, I've never heard of this.

On the outside, it's something that detects manipulation of a photograph. If the entire image was created as-is (i.e. a CG render, which is the most obvious answer), it would show no such signs, as it was never "manipulated".

Which brings up the same point as UFO videos and photos of Bigfoot... every one of us is carrying a camera in their pocket that can take MUCH better quality photographs than the OP. The mere fact that the photo is of such poor quality pretty much guarantees it's a fake. This the type of "leak" photo we may have seen ten years ago, not today.
 
You can't deny the timing is too suspicious tho.
Nintendo has been talking about regular upgrades across multiple devices so they don't have to start from scratch every gen for quite some time now. Then you have Microsoft taking a similar approach with WUP and now, Sony is doing a "mid-gen" upgrade when NX is around the corner.

I agree with you that Nintendo (alone) didn't force/influence Sony to go with PS4.5 but when you see your strongest competition (Microsoft) doing something similar as the weakest one (Nintendo) then obviously there's something going on in the industry.

Is it though? Or is it a potentially foolish knee jerk reaction to a coincidental move by the two companies with failing hardware to regain relevancy that will almost certainly not move the needle?

The NX would have to be a complete reversal of Nintendo's approach to its traditional branding, hardware design and the industry at large, including acceptance that third parties are more important than they are, which from what we know doesn't seem to be the case at all, so I very much doubt the NX will sell well enough to warrant its future hypothetical NX 2 incremental upgrade.

MS seems to be abandoning Console gaming as we know it altogether, concentrating on Windows 10, and are very unlikely to continue pouring billions into the black whole Xbox has always been now it's clear they're never going to 'take the living room'. Worldwide, the entire Xbox brand is just dead, at home sales are down YOY, and a hardware refresh is not going to reverse those fortunes.

Meanwhile, Sony, the market leader, is selling gangbusters with its more traditional and gaming focused approach, and has an incredibly highly anticipated new hardware venture in the form of PSVR on the horizon that is banking on its current hardware longevity and simple plug and play set up to outsell both the other consoles and out compete the other high end VR manufacturers for that new market. Muddying the waters with an unnecessary power increase just runs counter to both there current successful stratergy and future plans.

So yeah, all three console manufacturers might be looking into incremental changes, but 2 are doing it from a position of weakness, desperation and uncertainty, on the back of systemic failures in their approaches to the industry over many years, and the third seems to be following their bad ideas off a cliff into the unknown.

It's less a industry wide movement following a logical progression of established patterns and trends, and more two death rattles and a potential suicide.
 
Übermatik;198724003 said:
Just search each page for that xsape guy. Here's one post just above mine: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=198716427&postcount=5304

Classic, vague, second hand commentary that's unsubstantiated and riddled with maybes. The best part is this guy reckons no-one knows what NX is, even the developers working with the system.

Junior member (new account) + abstract, speculative posts about something they may or may not know + "just keeping the hype going!" comments = fake, always.

Oh I see. I think I must mentally filter those posts out 😂
 
Which brings up the same point as UFO videos and photos of Bigfoot... every one of us is carrying a camera in their pocket that can take MUCH better quality photographs than the OP. The mere fact that the photo is of such poor quality pretty much guarantees it's a fake. This the type of "leak" photo we may have seen ten years ago, not today.

Mine isn't, it's shit.

It's a huge step up in quality from the psp2 devkit leak anyway.
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It's interesting to see that most of the reactions to this design are pretty negative, but they are all assuming it's a home console.

Let's hypothetically believe this is real, but it's actually a handheld system. How would you feel about it?

Nintendo handhelds are made with durability in mind, so I don't feel this will be the design they would go for.

Also, this controller would solve a lot of the main problems I have:

-Seems lighters and more comfortable than the gamepad
-It will let every player have its own screen. This would be awesome in games like Pokémon, FPS's, and multiplayer games like Four Swords.
-If it keeps the same functions of the Gamepad, but are improved, like the gyrometer, camera, etc, it would do wonders for Spla2oon, Fatal Frame 5, Zelda NX (Inventory Management), Minecraft 2, Pokemon Snap and others.
-It will allow the NX to be backwards compatible with Wii U games, since they can run the second screen of the gamepad on it. This will sell the console on a lot of players who skipped the U.
 
The source video has a glaring light in that spot, so it may simply be exaggerated by being photographed from a lit screen.
https://youtu.be/LMcscM_Hogc?t=6s

The more I see the video the more I think you're right.

I'm still trying to figure out what a "photoshop detection app" is. As someone who's worked with Photoshop and visual effects for a long time, I've never heard of this.

On the outside, it's something that detects manipulation of a photograph. If the entire image was created as-is (i.e. a CG render, which is the most obvious answer), it would show no such signs, as it was never "manipulated".

Which brings up the same point as UFO videos and photos of Bigfoot... every one of us is carrying a camera in their pocket that can take MUCH better quality photographs than the OP. The mere fact that the photo is of such poor quality pretty much guarantees it's a fake. This the type of "leak" photo we may have seen ten years ago, not today.

The picture is just taken in dim light so you can see the "screen". Hence the blurriness. Plus the picture has been oddly cropped. It's not like it's so blurry we can't tell what it is.
 
For those wondering how just the screen could be blurry and nothing else. Like I said before sometimes if you take a pic or footage of a screen with your camera phone it can add this weird brightness to it unless you adjust the seettings on your camera.

Here is an example. I recorded this footage off my tv using my old cell phone a couple years back and look what happened...

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You know, I was on team real before, but the lack of anyone stepping in to deny this solidifies it for me, but I really do think it's the new handheld. I doubt a console controller without buttons would work and I'm pretty sure the Wii U soured the screen on a controller concept.
 
You know, I was on team real before, but the lack of anyone stepping in to deny this solidifies it for me, but I really do think it's the new handheld. I doubt a console controller without buttons would work and I'm pretty sure the Wii U soured the screen on a controller concept.

The handheld was all that was ever gonna launch this year anyway. :)
 
You know, I was on team real before, but the lack of anyone stepping in to deny this solidifies it for me, but I really do think it's the new handheld. I doubt a console controller without buttons would work and I'm pretty sure the Wii U soured the screen on a controller concept.

I'd actually be more worried if this is the handheld. At least a console can have optional normal controllers like the Pro, take buttons away, and what exactly is the advantage of a dedicated handheld over a smartphone or tablet?
 
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