[Destructoid] Leaked photo of NX controller?
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Agent Unknown
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What's with this condescending "Oh it's just journalists and gamers overthinking things they can reveal it whenever" strawman some people keep using? This isn't just geek talk, this is one of the most important system launches Nintendo will ever have in an increasingly volatile industry and they need to absolutely nail the PR this time and get the word out properly which is one of the main reasons the Wii U was a disaster. Yes, doing a special NX Direct at least a month before E3 makes more sense, that way they'll have all the media buzz and attention to themselves and can hopefully control the messaging long in advance instead of competing with the usual circus at E3 and whatever Sony and MS have planned for the show. Doing a slick, clean web unveil worked great for PS4, it can work for NX.
runnin_blue
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Hypothetically, if this was real, why would Nintendo be using what looks like a parallel port connector to connect the controller to something else? As far as I know, it is obsolete technology. Seems weird. Surely they'd be using some form of USB.
Unless somebody else knows what other type of connector that may be?
EDIT: on closer inspection, I guess it could really be any type of connector in a parallel shaped port. No way to know for sure, so speculating is pointless I guess.
Unless somebody else knows what other type of connector that may be?
EDIT: on closer inspection, I guess it could really be any type of connector in a parallel shaped port. No way to know for sure, so speculating is pointless I guess.
Mr. MondayNight
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Agree to disagree, due to taking a hit in power it was a mistake but the gamepad was/is a great amalgamation of existing tech and shouldn't just go away.
Dude it's the console even if the sales of the handheld would prop up the Wii U for a bit it wouldn't hold it up for a year.
Release console on November, 20 2016. Handheld Spring or Summer 2017 hell if the console is doing well push it back to make the launch more robust.
Pokemaniac
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Devkits typically have some extra ports on them for debugging and data transmission purposes. Even if this is real (I still don't think it is), you shouldn't read too much into the ports on the devkit.
Why would they push the handheld out that far? The 3DS is in its last legs. Even more so than the Wii U at this point. They have Pokemon. And uh. Thats it. It's so obvious that the first iteration of the NX is going to be a handheld.
Agent Unknown
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And uh, Dragon Quest VII & VIII and Monster Hunter Cross to name a few more, the 3DS 2016 lineup is hardly just scraps. Trev's source is right, there is no reason to release the new handheld in 2016. Yes its heyday is over but 3DS will have more than enough content to keep people busy the rest of this year, they need to focus on revitalizing their home market which needs to be their first priority. The handheld can wait until early 2017.
Graphics Horse
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All those games are out in Japan last year already. System will be approaching wii u numbers this year the way it's looking.
The handheld devkits are just dumb terminals connected by a cable to a custom box where the real guts are. I thought the cable looked a bit thin compared to some others though.
There are some pictures of debug units for 3DS here:
https://gbatemp.net/threads/3ds-development-hardware.327858/
The handheld devkits are just dumb terminals connected by a cable to a custom box where the real guts are. I thought the cable looked a bit thin compared to some others though.
There are some pictures of debug units for 3DS here:
https://gbatemp.net/threads/3ds-development-hardware.327858/
While that is true, most of the 3DS's line-up this year are either coming from third parties, late localizations, or devs outside of Nintendo's internal teams (Game Freak, for example). Most of Nintendo's internal teams have likely moved on to the NX Platform, but everyone else is doing more than enough to pick up Nintendo's slack on the 3DS & keep it alive for at least the rest of 2016. If it'll last long past this year remains to be seen. While I could see the handheld dropping first in Japan, Nintendo would have to get the handheld out the door by Spring 2017 at the latest.
Pokemaniac
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Huh, that's interesting. I never actually knew that. I suppose that makes sense with the limited case real estate.
The 3DS? In Japan? Or are you talking world-wide because in the former, the 3DS will very, very likely be the top selling gaming platform by no small margin.
Graphics Horse
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When I say approaching Wii U numbers I mean WW shipments could be something like 4m. But it's down 40% in Japan this year so far which doesn't help.
Agent Unknown
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Right, that's why I said the new handheld should probably drop early next year but 3DS still has more than enough steam to get through 2016 unlike Wii U. I personally don't care if NCL has moved on to the next handheld, there's still a lot of 3DS titles I'm catching up on and DQ VII itself will keep me busy for months. I'll probably still be actively using my 3DS for some time even after the new handheld is out and I find it funny how some seem to be brushing off Sun and Moon.
You know if Nintendo is getting all pissy that fake leaks are being released and giving off negative perceptions of the NX then it's their fault. It means they learned nothing from the Wii U reveal. They were radio silent for a whole damn year from the initial reveal at e3 2011 to 2012 and came into 2012 with some long ass demos of Reggie Zombi and NintendoLand.
Now Iwata name drops this thing at some mobile team up announcement to save face and not panic investors that they're abandoning the video game console market and won't talk about it till next year. A calendar year later and it's still radio silent with not even a final name, what it is, or when the announcement of when it's going to be shown is coming. It's the Wii U all over again.
Now Iwata name drops this thing at some mobile team up announcement to save face and not panic investors that they're abandoning the video game console market and won't talk about it till next year. A calendar year later and it's still radio silent with not even a final name, what it is, or when the announcement of when it's going to be shown is coming. It's the Wii U all over again.
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the hardcore gamer fanboy in me really hope the system is as powerful as xbox one and ps4. i am really getting excited for this possibility + whatever gimmick / revolutionary stuff nintendo might bring.
but then again i get excited for every new system that comes out. announce a PS4.5 and i will be excited lol
but then again i get excited for every new system that comes out. announce a PS4.5 and i will be excited lol
Pokemaniac
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Nah, this is nothing like Wii U. With Wii U, they blew their load too soon and too fast, resulting in having nothing to show for a year.
This time around, they teased it early, but otherwise they're intentionally holding out on us to build up for when this NX thing climaxes later this year.
It's still a frustrating wait, but it's a whole different kind of frustrating.
Prevolition
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Who at Nintendo are you referring to as getting all pissy?
But it's not. The NX hasn't even been revealed. Wii U was unveiled too early. The NX still has plenty of hype surrounding it. If Nintendo were to wait all the way to E3 for the reveal it would be fine for a late 2016/early 2017 release.
Gamer @ Heart
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A lot goes into an announcement in terms of timing and marketing. When leaks happen, it throws those plans off. If too much fake stuff happens and it harms the image because sites believe in false information, it hurts the official reveal. It isn't like Nintendo's sitting on a ton of information and waiting on a light to say 'Go'. Things have been thought out and planned so they can deliver the message they want, in the manner they choose to do it, and at they time they want it to be done.
Dark Cloud
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This isn't the Wii U all over again. Nintendo wants to do it a certain way then it's fine. MS didn't reveal the Xbox One until May 2013 and it worked out fine for them. Everybody gets there info faster than ever. You don't need to talk about your new system 8-9 months prior to launch.
Claude Augario
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"Nintendo all pissy." They haven't whispered a fucking word and all we have are non-confirmations from insiders.
Everyone's an expert when the rumors and blurry pictures start surfacing.
Everyone's an expert when the rumors and blurry pictures start surfacing.
Kissenkopf
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To be honest...the (fake) controller didn't got much attention in the internet. So i guess Nontendo won't comment in any way to this. Only on NeoGaf people are still discussing about this topic.
If we don't get anything next month then they'll wait till E3 to reveal the whole thing.
That is not entirely True, i have seen the picture on a lot of websites (not gaming sites) at least a couple of normal news sites.
So a lot of People think it is real (i dont by the way)
In the netherlands it was on their biggest newswebsite
http://www.nu.nl/games/4232421/mogelijke-beelden-van-nintendo-nx-controller-gelekt.html
When did Microsoft announced they have a new system in the making? How long before the official reveal?
Dark Cloud
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I don't remember. As far as NX goes Iwata said he did it so everybody doesn't think they're going to stop making dedicated hardware. Either way the information is coming. All that matters is what Nintendo is trying to sell us. MS announced the X1 in May, but they had wrong ideas and it hurt them. It's all about what Nintendo shows us and what they're advertising.
What's the difference knowing the NX now compared to knowing it in 2 months? You'll have your info and you can make a decision if you like what you hear or not. It's a digital world everybody will get the info. 6 months is plenty of time, I think.
Plus, all of us are on dedicated gaming websites constantly in this news so it's kind of eating at us. The general gaming population isn't as dedicated as us for "what's the next info?"
Mr. MondayNight
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They have Monster Hunter this summer which do numbers in the US now, along with Fire Emblem, Bravely Default 2, it can survive until the fall in which Pokemon drops to help it survive until the end of the Fall there is NOTHING on Wii U here or coming that could do the same, the release will be the console not the handheld.
The thing i dont get is why people are still saying, that Nintendo will first release their console and maybe a couple of months later the handheld.
Do people still believe that the console and handheld will be two different platforms? i think its pretty obvious that it will be just one thing (handheld/console in one)
Metaldave already said something like this in his videos, and i understand that he is not from Nintendo, but all the predictions/rumors he did before the last Direct were all true.
He isnt giving the respect he deserves imo, he told stuff in his videos that no one could know about. (even a couple of weeks ago) The videos are now gone from youtube.
Nintendo isnt capable of making games for 2 machines (history has shown that) So i really dont get why many people still think that it will be two machines instead of a handheld that can connect to the television.
Do people still believe that the console and handheld will be two different platforms? i think its pretty obvious that it will be just one thing (handheld/console in one)
Metaldave already said something like this in his videos, and i understand that he is not from Nintendo, but all the predictions/rumors he did before the last Direct were all true.
He isnt giving the respect he deserves imo, he told stuff in his videos that no one could know about. (even a couple of weeks ago) The videos are now gone from youtube.
Nintendo isnt capable of making games for 2 machines (history has shown that) So i really dont get why many people still think that it will be two machines instead of a handheld that can connect to the television.
Candescence
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Because a hybrid was already ruled out by Nintendo themselves ages ago, explicitly saying that they're maintaining the handheld and console system except typing them together like "brothers" on both the architecture and OS level. Do keep up.
It doesn't matter if the intention was good when announcing NX more than one year ago. You can't be both silent and controlling the message for that long. You just can't.
Would 2 months matter? Definitely if the negative perception starts to add up.
Microsoft wasn't hurt just by the DRM crap, there was already some negativity in the air because of the PS earlier reveal and early rumours about the power difference. The reveal didn't manage to change that and instead focused the attention even more on the bad things.
Dark Cloud
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I guess we'll have to disagree then.
TBF, nu.nl is far from the most professional news site. They love to post rumors that Don't have a lot of trustworthiness. Also, I am pretty sure one of their editors keeps a close eye on here, since I have seen multiple articles by them that are clearly solely based on a GAF thread.
I think Nintendo achieved what had in mind, which was to stay relevant and build hype for the last year and a half. If it weren't for the NX project reveal, Nintendo's online presence in news, forum posts and social networks would have been almost nonexistent (excluding Direct days).
But at the same time, not saying anything about the project for that long can harm Nintendo even when they announce the console due to the impossible-to-control hype levels.
They need to be very careful on how they announce it and how they market it, no matter what the console ends up being. The naming strategy and whom to market to will be the critical points of the success of the console/s.
PS: Did I use "whom" correctly there? I'm not quite sure... (Not english native speaker
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But at the same time, not saying anything about the project for that long can harm Nintendo even when they announce the console due to the impossible-to-control hype levels.
They need to be very careful on how they announce it and how they market it, no matter what the console ends up being. The naming strategy and whom to market to will be the critical points of the success of the console/s.
PS: Did I use "whom" correctly there? I'm not quite sure... (Not english native speaker
)Prisoner KSC2-303
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I'm not bothered by the radio silence, but I definitely think there's a section of the gaming public - who could be potential NX buyers - who'll assume that the longer they keep quiet, the more likely it is that there'll be a really mad gimmick attached, and due to this drift their attention to other things.
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Mr. MondayNight
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Well Iwata passed and they took time to get restructured after that, look how long it took them to do an actual direct I'm sure that had something to do with it not every company is a mindless thoughtless machine and when Reggie said that Nintendo was like a family I find that believable and they were mourning now they are finally getting back to business as usual but the shadow still looms.
Nintendo has proven countless times that today's gimmicks quite often become tomorrow's standards. People dismissing it just because the Wii U's gimmick didn't catch on are irrational
Gormless Noodle
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And even the Wii U's got copied right away by Nvidia and Sony, even though everyone was saying it was crap.
Graphics Horse
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They haven't begun to seek people's attention right now, they've pretty much only said things for the sake of stating their company direction for shareholders so far.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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What makes it even worse is like Nintendo is priming us for an NX reveal or something. Every new Nintendo Direct has a statement release saying.. "No NX information will be discussed" Or something like that. Like oh really? Then when? How many times yall gonna say the same thing.
Graphics Horse
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I was thinking the last direct promo was the first time it had been mentioned like that but maybe not.
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That's true. The silence is numbing.
Nobody really knowsPS: Did I use "whom" correctly there? I'm not quite sure... (Not english native speaker
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Nope, the one before that one too. The one where they showed TPHD
Bots are better than you
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According to Kimishima from the last Financial Briefing or whatever that was, they start talking about it in the next business year.
That's where the April/May speculation came from.
I expect a very basic announcement of the system around that time, and full reveal during E³.
I don't think there's any sales trend to indicate quite such a precipitous drop in 3DS sales in JP. This year Kirby and Pokémon, along with the new YW game, should help buoy the system. I do think it's conceivable that JP gets the HH this year and the West gets the console.
I'd like to respond to your earlier post replying to me about Zelda U as an indicator of which system we get this year, as well, since I didn't have a chance to earlier. So, you're absolutely right of course that Trev's leak speculated but did not indicate which NX system would arrive this year with a Zelda U port. However, even if the HH is capable of running Wii U games--which...I think is decently likely, and perhaps a way for us to see some (console and handheld?) Wii HD and Wii U ports, I have difficulty seeing how the messaging makes sense to release Zelda U and alongisde it tout the portable version of the game. Western gamers as we know are eminently more interested in bigger, better, console versions of games as opposed to their portable counterparts. If Zelda U is available on hardware nobody wanted to buy at 720/30, and on a portable at, say, 540/30 or even the same specs, I think most gamers with a glimmer of interest in Nintendo's next thing, or even those with some significant interest, are going to pass on either version in their hope that the NX console will offer the kind of Nintendo experience they've been waiting for. So they'll be cool to wait a little longer for a 1080/30 port, i.e. the supposed definitive version (I don't say that to be snobby, I just mean that I don't agree with the prevailing idea that the best graphics always make a version definitive), since they've been waiting this long already for the next Nintendo experience. So that's where I'm coming from with interpreting Trev's leak to mean a portable version is to me logically less likely than a console iteration to launch alongside the Wii U version.
I agree. I don't expect Paper Mario or Zelda to make any real waves in JP (I think Zelda may sell pretty well vs. expectations in JP, but I don't think it'll be a massive system seller like Splatoon), so unless a significant wave of SW is coming I'd be wary to think how Nintendo would see any significant success from Wii U this holiday in JP.
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