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DF doubles down on they were right about the switch 2 specs.
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Senua
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DeepEnigma
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They were mainly talking GPU and CPU. ps4 came out when 4k did not exist so it never got a output to display 4k.
Closer
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The magical PS4 released before 2005.
Parazels
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So this is exactly what normal gamers need
Zacfoldor
Gold Member
Right, I'll gladly accept that the specs are similar with the caveat that DLSS is a gamechanger and the base PS4 can only do 1080p(I think).
I remember the base PS4. It was great but the PS4 Pro was a gamechanger on my LG OLED set. I could never go back to base PS4 but Switch 2 is actually great docked.
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dlss was game changed for cyberpunk imo vas base ps4 . every other port with dlss lite not really. sometimes dlss will push switch 2 into pro level but its been very few games so far.
ValiantInstance
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It was a retarded opinion then, and it's still one now. The Jaguar architecture of the PS4 was shit, Ampere is generations ahead.
Magic Carpet
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If only I could play the PS4 games on the Switch, then I'd be in bidness.
winjer
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Dude, Jaguar is a CPU architecture and Ampere is a GPU architecture.
It really doesn't matter because we are in diminishing returns. PS5 is several times more powerful then ps4 but the jump is not that big graphically, no where near ps3 vs ps4. with switch 2 the jump is not big enough to give you a a much better experience in most games.
PeteBull
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Portability always added hefty tax compared to stationary consoles for same specs, hell even now if u get pc vs lappy with same specs(not names, actual performance) u likely gotta forkup at least double(and obviously u cant match anything above mid-end).
Senua
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DenchDeckard
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PS4 seems decent for Nintendo.
Can I get Xenoblade 3 patch please. I've stopped playing waiting!
Can I get Xenoblade 3 patch please. I've stopped playing waiting!
Moses85
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Fixed that for you.
J Required
Gold Member
Switch 2 is essentially a PS4-level device built on a modern architecture, and in that sense DF's assessment is accurate.
People can cherry-pick screenshots all day, but the raw numbers don't lie.
My main issue with Nintendo's hardware approach is that they tend to grab whatever off-the-shelf tech is available and drop it into their system with minimal ambition.
People can cherry-pick screenshots all day, but the raw numbers don't lie.
My main issue with Nintendo's hardware approach is that they tend to grab whatever off-the-shelf tech is available and drop it into their system with minimal ambition.
Xaeroxcore666
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DLSS alone it's that good, that just compare Cyberpunk even on PS4 Pro vs Switch 2...
Maybe in mere raw power Switch 2 it's on PS4 realm, but tech wise it's way beyond...
Maybe in mere raw power Switch 2 it's on PS4 realm, but tech wise it's way beyond...
winjer
Gold Member
It's more than a PS4 with DLSS.
It also has a better CPU. It has full support for DX12_2. Can do a bit of RT. Has delta color compression. Shader Model 6.8.
Fake
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Still have some 'ARM' limitations, not to mention Jaguar have more cores. Most of the lift are from the GPU.
Still for me a PS4 with DLSS, maybe a better PS4, but still the release games match each some and others.
The bottom line is, there are games running as same as PS4, some games running better than PS4 and some games running worse than PS4. The rest is poison for fanboys.
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winjer
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The A78 on the Switch 2 also has 8 cores for 8 threads. But it has a more advanced front end. And it has 4MB of L3 cache.
imo its a ps4 pro because of the 4k
videogamedude
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that this is even in question is telling
nintendo nailed it with Switch2... many gamers can't even tell the difference between it and PS5
it's close enough in visual fidelity that there are fanboys making threads to argue about it
brilliant
nintendo nailed it with Switch2... many gamers can't even tell the difference between it and PS5
it's close enough in visual fidelity that there are fanboys making threads to argue about it
brilliant
Fake
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Numbers pushed back by the energy consumption. As I said, there are games running better on NS2 than PS4, but also games running as same or worse on NS2.
kevboard
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winjer
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analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Yep. A PS4 with a quality upscaler and super fast loading times is the point where your average customer doesn't really care much about upgrades any further. Nintendo really nailed it with their hardware spec.
Sebastian1295
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A base ps4 in the year 2026 for 500 dollars with ps4 looking games for 80 dollars a pop. Great value here folks.
Moses85
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Sebastian1295
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then it's just a PS4 that can do 4K then
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Itchy Tickles
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Always annoying when they (or anyone) talks about Switch 2 and says don't compare it to modern consoles, yet all they do is compare it to series S or a gen and half old system.
The Switch isn't some underdog from a small company. It costs a hellva lot to buy into, games are priced real high, their control over buying things is so tightly locked and exploited. You pay that much for a weak system and then just smile that "wow, I didnt imagine they'd port this game" in its low res, low frame rate, missing features way.
The PS4 was being developed in about 2008. Don't try and say "its great for a handheld" then cherry pick what you want to compare it too and lower your standards of how a game should play and look for an over priced device. Nintendo and the Switch are not punching up.
The Switch isn't some underdog from a small company. It costs a hellva lot to buy into, games are priced real high, their control over buying things is so tightly locked and exploited. You pay that much for a weak system and then just smile that "wow, I didnt imagine they'd port this game" in its low res, low frame rate, missing features way.
The PS4 was being developed in about 2008. Don't try and say "its great for a handheld" then cherry pick what you want to compare it too and lower your standards of how a game should play and look for an over priced device. Nintendo and the Switch are not punching up.