J_Gamer.exe
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But their new flag physics detector is all systems go
DF | Outriders First Look: PS5 vs Xbox Series X/ Series S vs Xbox One X!
BigLee74
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I've seen it all. He's quoting and commenting on his own posts.
Concern
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No. Someone just forgot to log out of their alt lol
J_Gamer.exe
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darkleemar
Neo Member
Me neither. The idea that they would keep in all the other physics, which are arguably more demanding, just to remove flag physics in the name of performance is actually hysterical.
S0ULZB0URNE
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So that 4TF's of xss is rearing it's ugly head again.... 4TF's is 4TF's is 4TF's.
A wash between the 2 current gen versions.
A wash between the 2 current gen versions.
Krisprolls
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That was a way to easily copy the picture, you genius. Feel free to answer the question. Why is the ground so blurry on Series X compared to PS5 ? VRS or just bad AF ?
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Bo_Hazem
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TLZ
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1800 to 2088 isn't substantial, especially not at the cost of lower fps. I'd rather they lower it to 1800p too to maintain a solid 60fps. That slight extra res isn't worth it.Your "forgot" to mention that the XSX pushes a substantially higher resolution.
Krisprolls
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Ok. But why is AF worse on Series X ? It's something we already saw multiple times on other games, with XSX being blurrier. Is it a hardware issue or software related ?
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TLZ
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How many people have VRR TVs? 5?
BigLee74
Member
Oh diddums, did the big boys not respond to your post in time? Spam away, Mr Triggered!!
(come back when you learn what AF is)
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JeremyEtcetera
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They're going to do it in every DF thread. It's two sides fighting over the smallest scraps to justify their purchase.Lol arguing over a demo
Meanwhile PC and Switch owners are doing this:
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Damn, that's a pretty huge difference. But frame rate is king, even if the game looks like complete trash I guessPS5 version has worse lighting and other graphical effects. it looks awful in comparison.
From era.
PC: (Same as xbox)
PS5
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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I thought TFs didn't mean everything. But, now they do? Some consistency would be appreciated.
Krisprolls
Banned
Damn, that's a pretty huge difference. But frame rate is king, even if the game looks like complete trash I guess
Frame rate is always king. But here Series X version is the one looking like trash too according to pics above (especially the ground) so you don't even have to choose
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MasterCornholio
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I agree with that. It's the same in every single comparison thread.
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J_Gamer.exe
Member
Are you seriously suggesting the physics of the character moving through 1 flag is going to even register in performance....
J_Gamer.exe
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So, uh...this game may not be anyway near as clear-cut a "win" for a given platform as I first though. People are pulling up screenshots now where PS5 has much worst lighting in some areas as well as lower environmental detail/objects and worst cloth physics compared to the PC and Series X versions.
If that's the case, it's not surprising if PS5 has less framerate drops (and according to DF, it DOES have frame drops, just not as much) due to the aforementioned differences. Some of the screenshots almost look worlds apart IMO. Hate to pull it from Reeee, but here 'ya go:
[PC/SERIES X]
[PS5]
[PC/SERIES]
[PS5]
Don't forget the lower textures or texture filtering on xbox also
How about this from VGtech?
Seems like gimped graphics (HW VRS is the suspect). Source: @Lysandros
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
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Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
Can't see any difference.
Can't notice any drops to 50fps.
But 200 additional vertical pixels from 3 metres away? Another one.
S0ULZB0URNE
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Krisprolls
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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It really depends on the architecture, but seeing as how more 3P games are also getting Switch (and obviously Switch Pro ports when that comes) and Switch Pro (let alone the original) will be weaker in terms of pure TF to Series S...
...even if it's a different architecture, there's lots of similarities between Nvidia and AMD's designs anyway so I will want to see if the same people knocking down Series S for being "only" 4TF do the same with Switch Pro which will inevitably be even less than that and also getting many of these same 3P games going forward
.....The shot on Series X was most likely captured slightly in-motion while PS5's wasn't; if lower texture quality was rampant you'd be able to find many more examples throughout the game but this is the only (cherry-picked) shot that's come up.
Speaking of cherry-picked shots that make a given platform look bad, here's one doing no favors for PS5 (source: cwjs on B3D)
Left is PS5, right is Series X.
it's mostly an image reconstruction caught in-progress on PS5 goes to show how easy it is to capture the same game in two different states on the two systems that can make one look bad by comparison
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S0ULZB0URNE
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Super Switch will have lower base resolution targets and reconstruct to higher resolutions via the (thus far) superior DLSS.It really depends on the architecture, but seeing as how more 3P games are also getting Switch (and obviously Switch Pro ports when that comes) and Switch Pro (let alone the original) will be weaker in terms of pure TF to Series S...
...even if it's a different architecture, there's lots of similarities between Nvidia and AMD's designs anyway so I will want to see if the same people knocking down Series S for being "only" 4TF do the same with Switch Pro which will inevitably be even less than that and also getting many of these same 3P games going forward
The xss will be longer in the tooth than the Super Switch and I can see Nintendo exclusives outshining xss games.
This is all if Nintendo doesn't shit the bed and let us down with the specs.
bender
What time is it?
It really depends on the architecture, but seeing as how more 3P games are also getting Switch (and obviously Switch Pro ports when that comes) and Switch Pro (let alone the original) will be weaker in terms of pure TF to Series S...
...even if it's a different architecture, there's lots of similarities between Nvidia and AMD's designs anyway so I will want to see if the same people knocking down Series S for being "only" 4TF do the same with Switch Pro which will inevitably be even less than that and also getting many of these same 3P games going forward
The shot on Series X was most likely captured slightly in-motion while PS5's wasn't; if lower texture quality was rampant you'd be able to find many more examples throughout the game but this is the only (cherry-picked) shot that's come up.
Speaking of cherry-picked shots that make a given platform look bad, here's one doing no favors for PS5 (source: cwjs on B3D)
Left is PS5, right is Series X.
it's mostly an image reconstruction caught in-progress on PS5 goes to show how easy it is to capture the same game in two different states on the two systems that can make one look bad by comparison
J_Gamer.exe
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It really depends on the architecture, but seeing as how more 3P games are also getting Switch (and obviously Switch Pro ports when that comes) and Switch Pro (let alone the original) will be weaker in terms of pure TF to Series S...
...even if it's a different architecture, there's lots of similarities between Nvidia and AMD's designs anyway so I will want to see if the same people knocking down Series S for being "only" 4TF do the same with Switch Pro which will inevitably be even less than that and also getting many of these same 3P games going forward
The shot on Series X was most likely captured slightly in-motion while PS5's wasn't; if lower texture quality was rampant you'd be able to find many more examples throughout the game but this is the only (cherry-picked) shot that's come up.
Speaking of cherry-picked shots that make a given platform look bad, here's one doing no favors for PS5 (source: cwjs on B3D)
Left is PS5, right is Series X.
it's mostly an image reconstruction caught in-progress on PS5 goes to show how easy it is to capture the same game in two different states on the two systems that can make one look bad by comparison
Its not from some randomer, its from vg tech who states this. Links on his video description i believe.
He does sound analysis so I'll trust him.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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This is assuming that Switch Pro/Super Switch even has DLSS and if so, at the scale of the PC GPUs (it definitely will have way less Tensor Cores than even 3060).
Plus it's Nintendo...when's the last time they hit hype expectations on performance specs? Probably Gamecube IMO, that's going back two whole decades
.With all due respect they are just one source of others and again, if Series X has truly lower texture resolution quality, I need a lot more than one screen grab to prove it.
Preferably, multiple sources would confirm and provide their own examples of it, but I've seen two others covering it and neither of them bring it up as being a thing on Series platforms.
geordiemp
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Yes it does, except riky probably got no idea what your talking about
S0ULZB0URNE
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It's a assumption worth making with the current rumors/nVidia partnership.This is assuming that Switch Pro/Super Switch even has DLSS and if so, at the scale of the PC GPUs (it definitely will have way less Tensor Cores than even 3060).
Plus it's Nintendo...when's the last time they hit hype expectations on performance specs? Probably Gamecube IMO, that's going back two whole decades
Nintendo hasn't made a great spec machine in awhile and these specs aren't great if true.
Who said they were?
The Hamburglar
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You mean him repeating vrr in every post? Yeah you better believe. The kids insane; just wait until he starts talking about expandable storage and more full future rnda2 potential.
MasterCornholio
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SLB1904
Banned
Yeah. Like parrots repeating the same thing over and over. I bet as soon as ps5 gets vrr update they will shut up about it. It's like folders all over againYou mean him repeating vrr in every post? Yeah you better believe. The kids insane; just wait until he starts talking about expandable storage and more full future rnda2 potential.
MasterCornholio
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Iced Arcade
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"People Can Fly" did. getting all the free marketing for a game no one would be talkinging about otherwise.
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M1chl
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MasterCornholio
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Yes two or more people.
I'm obviously not using it to refer to someone of an unspecified gender.
Hope that makes it more clear.
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anothertech
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It's crazy at this point to see ps5 performing better than a purportedly 12tf console, regardless of negligible res difference.
There some magic under the hood.
There some magic under the hood.
Sir Vilhelm
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It's crazy that you posted this without any self awareness on what you actually said.
anothertech
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
I mean, assuming they will have some DLSS in Switch Pro/Super Switch? Yeah, for sure. But it's going to be a mobile-based GPU, that will limit the amount of Tensor Cores in the design for powering the task. But maybe they could have an offset in having a more advanced implementation of 2.0 by the time it comes out, who knowsIt's a assumption worth making with the current rumors/nVidia partnership.
Nintendo hasn't made a great spec machine in awhile and these specs aren't great if true.
Who said they were?
Riky
$MSFT
anothertech
Member
So dilusion lolSo bitter
I've already told you I've got a Nanocell so no such problem for me.
Shmunter
Member
Isn't that the most budget lcd of all? Top end Samsung & Oled has VRR that is not worth the paper it's written on, but the budget model beats them?So bitter
I've already told you I've got a Nanocell so no such problem for me.
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Old Empire.
Member
Watched the video and said absolutely nothing about TF was better on PS5..
Resolution is more demanding. PS5 winning the frame rate battle. at a lower resolution is not winning. Xbox is hitting 57 to 60 frame rate count, the majority of the time at higher resolution, logically this means the xbox version is performing better.
Old Empire.
Member
Damn, that's a pretty huge difference. But frame rate is king, even if the game looks like complete trash I guess
DF got very sloppy with this and hasn't noticed PS5 version often gimped graphically to enable 60fps locked. You can see these graphical downgrades with other games and never talked about.
Gediminas
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so on LG CX turn off Premium Freesync and turn on Instant game response?No so far I am only promised some updates, which will fix it. I mean VRR on PC is awesome, however on OLED panel it's less than ideal.
Refer to this article:
LG Acknowledges OLED TV VRR Issues - But Can’t Promise A Quick Fix
They are definitely working on it, thoughwww.forbes.com
It's still amazing TV and thanks for free XSX ; )