Luipadre
Member
No, seasonal updates are gonna be free. I dont know why people freaking out over this. You dont want more content for diablo? Let the whales buy the BP and cosmetic shit and let us enjoy the free content every 3 months. Its that easy
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No, seasonal updates are gonna be free. I dont know why people freaking out over this. You dont want more content for diablo? Let the whales buy the BP and cosmetic shit and let us enjoy the free content every 3 months. Its that easy
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Cannot wait. Diablo 4 looks amazing.
‘content released every three months’ doesn’t necessarily mean the content is developed only in three months. You could have overlap periods of concurrent development…
Not sure how it makes sense to cite this as an example of ‘lies and broken promises’.
Saber
Member
If is true then its cool. Lets not hope it means some zones will launch later.
Luipadre
Member
No. Game will launch with 5 or 6 acts and 5 big ass zones. There are plenty of content for launch
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
I wonder if they'll still do paid expansions as well. I can easily see this game taking up a significant amount of my gaming time this year if the seasons and story updates are interesting and fun.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Industry shit keeps on a churning.
iQuasarLV
Member
it was the showpiece comment of the whole event that solidified Blizzard Gaslighting their customer base to get in line with the company.
I was already getting scared away from it based on the bit of gameplay I played and seen not being that new from the 3rd game (to me at least). Now to see this has me reinforcing my plan to wait it out after release for either a discount and/or an expansion although not sure if that should be expected based on the mention of story content. I'm telling myself it will be small little bits like a mission or two and nothing significate like the expansions for the previous games but with the GaaS push I'm worried this might be all we'll get instead of an expansion.
Kuranghi
Member
This is bad news to me, partly this but mostly other reason mean I'm going to see what impressions are after 24 hours when people are in the end-game.
I played the beta and the graphics, satisfaction of impact and sounds of the skills were great, the HDR is fucked but SDR looked great when black floor was tweaked a bit (shouldn't have to do that, black floor should be at or very very near 0, annoying), it didn't put me off but I dislike the world boss shit and skill stuff looks subpar, I wish they'd stuck with the rune system of D3 where you just change all skills on a whim for a new build, I found choosing between skills an unnecessary annoyance, just give me everything and let me decide how to build the character.
Now this makes it sound even more gaasy so I'll prob just give Everspace 2 a go instead of this to scratch the ARPG looting itch since I loved Chorus recently.
I played the beta and the graphics, satisfaction of impact and sounds of the skills were great, the HDR is fucked but SDR looked great when black floor was tweaked a bit (shouldn't have to do that, black floor should be at or very very near 0, annoying), it didn't put me off but I dislike the world boss shit and skill stuff looks subpar, I wish they'd stuck with the rune system of D3 where you just change all skills on a whim for a new build, I found choosing between skills an unnecessary annoyance, just give me everything and let me decide how to build the character.
Now this makes it sound even more gaasy so I'll prob just give Everspace 2 a go instead of this to scratch the ARPG looting itch since I loved Chorus recently.
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Nydius
Member
Oh goody, they’re following in the same trashy FOMO footsteps as Destiny with their 3 month content drops. That’s what burned me right out on that game and now my interest in Diablo 4 is significantly lessened because I have better things to do with my time than play a game that wants me to dedicate my life to it (and only it).
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Free DLC *?
*who the fuck am I kidding lol.
*who the fuck am I kidding lol.
Hot5pur
Member
Just out of curiosity and not being critical, what prevents you from playing the story, some endgame, getting a good 50-100 hours out of it, and moving on with your life? Blizzard has been pretty clear that the game will launch with a full story and a decent endgame, if you want to stick around for extra stuff that's up to you. Or am I missing something?
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Reduced, costs saved and if people play you develop/complete the rest
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Ev1L AuRoN
Member
I refuse to pay 70 dollars for a game with season pass. I'll just wait until it becomes free to play or dirty-cheap.
kvltus lvlzvs
Member
diablo 4: days of our lives
Luipadre
Member
why? There are tons of content in the base game already and every seasonal update is free. Dont like season pass? Dont buy it. Its not that hard
Ev1L AuRoN
Member
It is... It messes with the progression and much of the joy of playing the game, I take Warzone as an example, It's awful to level up and don't unlock shit.
March Climber
Gold Member
For fans of the genre and people who participated in the beta and are having negative takes about this, can someone explain to me why this news is seen as bad news, but the exact same news for Path of Exile is seen as good news?
I don’t want to immediately call out favoritism, I just want to be educated on what I’m not seeing here aside from the added 59.99 price point between the two.
I don’t want to immediately call out favoritism, I just want to be educated on what I’m not seeing here aside from the added 59.99 price point between the two.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Is this a GAAS then? If it is, that’s not good imo. I really miss the days where you bought a game and it was complete. It’s fine adding content, but I wouldn’t announce it before the game even comes out because to me it can look like you intentionally left stuff out or the game wasn’t ready for launch yet.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
One month 100 gold coins and 40 minutes without CGI scenes
Other month 50 red coins with a ordinary challenge
Other month a ordinary clothes and 20 minutes of a campaign chapter.
Other month 10 gold coins
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Luipadre
Member
but you unlock cosmetic shit through BP. Your ingame progression wont be affected by it
Ev1L AuRoN
Member
Unlock shit and level up are two sides of the same thing, I call them both progression, I just won't enjoy the game without the parity in content, cosmetic or otherwise. I won't have a problem if the game was free and I had to pay for the battle pass, they could even strip the main campaign and launch a free version of the MP with the battle pass like COD do, it would be better, I prefer to ditch the campaign and go straight to the MP with battle pass than had to pay 70 for a game and another 10 dollars at every three months. Again that's just humble opinion, I'm sure a lot of people disagree, but I think I'll never cease to be annoyed by practices like that. And Blizzard in particular, the F company that sold me overwatch full price, I played a lot of that game and unlock a ton of cool stuff for free, then they decide to take away the game that I bought and give instead the same game but with battlepass and taking away my ability to unlock my shit by F*ckin playing the damm game.
Elitro
Member
Yeah, pretty much what i expected and what makes sense.
New season, new game mechanic and some event that you can do to unlock the mechanic. Perhaps similar to WoW where you always have some event before a major expansion, and maybe some cosmetics for participating in the event.
Seems fine to me, not particularly interested in paying for the game pass since i can't imagine anything in it that i may want (not interested in cosmetics) but some of the new PoE season mechanics were interesting. Well done this could actually add a good deal of longevity to the game.
I understand people's weariness on the current Blizz practices but from what i experienced from OW2 i was OK with the battle pass. Yes it sucks they lock new heroes behind its purchase, but if you can still unlock them by playing the game so it's w/e.
iQuasarLV
Member
Because I timestamped the mike drop of an explanation.
In the past, no game I paid for that had a seasonal pass did not fuck me over right out the gate because of this video's very reasoning.
Diablo 3 was pretty much a cookie clicker, Diablo 4 is a little bit better, but not much.
AREYOUOKAY?
Member
I'm sure Overwatch 2 players will doubt these claims with how late and delayed that promised content is. Don't trust modern Blizzard at all.
ahtlas7
Member
After 3 years you’ll save on the price too.
Kiya's Guard
Member
"Don't you guys have battlepasses?"
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Nice. Can't wait. This is going to be an absolute banger.
GreyHand23
Member
Perfect example of why clickbait is so effective.
treemk
Banned
I would really like to see Blizzard to return to balance only updates after launch until a big expansion hits, never going to happen.
geary
Member
Is like people have no idea about Path of Exile and how the competition in this genre is....The bubble on this forums gets smaller and smaller.
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Dontkidyourselfjimmy
Gold Member
Fanny pack ain't gonna protect shitAnd it's a fucking ARPG
Blizzard didn't need to go THIS hard on this one
Like, holy fucking shit, this is the new high bar
Stamps1646
Member
This will be tied to it's Seasons feature, which is free, with the option of purchasing the Battle Pass.
Expansion Content will be paid DLC, Blizzard announced they are working on two expansions.
Expansion Content will be paid DLC, Blizzard announced they are working on two expansions.
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NoLootBoxDev
Member
That season pass
TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
So I got it guys, we take one expansion pack, and we just split that shit into 52 pieces and sell each one for 15$ each week. It's brilliant. Combined with door fee that gets your game to recognize that you bought it, we're gonna be able to make ten more rooms filled with cubicles to crawl through while the pleb she employees work tirelessly on the lesbian Puerto Rican two-soul unicorn expansion for WoW
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
West Texas CEO
GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief and Nosiest Dildo Archeologist
Imagine if the writers from Planescape Torment combined with the programming genius of Blizzard..
TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
You'd have to roll for initiative to see if you get past the writer's office on your way to the company wide walk out of the month.
RyanEvans21
Member
It's Battle Pass though. mostly cosmetics and some freebies included (if they follow Overwatch).
PeteBull
Member
Beat story at lvl 50(coz did a bit of sidequests ;P), even finished that hard af dungeon that lets u change difficulty to torment, so far 0 forced p2w mechanics, all those mtx costumes are purely cosmetics, that no1 sane cares about, will let u guys know if something changes but so far its solid singleplayer experience, hack and slash with good story/fun gameplay.
If u play on lowest difficulty story alone w/o any side missions is easily 20h, if u go to normal(called veteran here, i recommend it if u are diablo series fan or/and experienced player who is capable of learning bossmechanics) then its around 30h.
Im ur neighbourhood GAAS shit/always online hater but even as one, i tell u at least for now i enjoy d4 a lot, ofc we cant be sure in the future if and how many p2w mechanics blizz gonna introduce, so can just tell u how it looks for now- solid 0 gaas singple player fun experience.
If u play on lowest difficulty story alone w/o any side missions is easily 20h, if u go to normal(called veteran here, i recommend it if u are diablo series fan or/and experienced player who is capable of learning bossmechanics) then its around 30h.
Im ur neighbourhood GAAS shit/always online hater but even as one, i tell u at least for now i enjoy d4 a lot, ofc we cant be sure in the future if and how many p2w mechanics blizz gonna introduce, so can just tell u how it looks for now- solid 0 gaas singple player fun experience.