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DICE was progressive
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Ulysses 31
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Yes, they are.
You don't remember how the Battlefield V reveal trailer went down with one armed chick?
You don't remember how the Battlefield V reveal trailer went down with one armed chick?
Just wait until the next one comes out. That one will be shit, but BF 2042 will be the everyone sticks with and keeps playing.
Me, BF4 is still the best after it got patched up from its disaster of a launch.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I believe this was the Russian Revolution DLC which did have female snipers iirc.
They had the bald chicks in their promos way before Naughty Dog had theirs. 2016 before all this woke shit.
Before that there were no female players. It was historically accurate until they jumped the shark with BFV.
SJRB
Gold Member
These idiots, who up until that point tried to make semi-faithful war games, made a World War II shooter where one of the allied units is a disabled woman with a prosthetic arm running around smacking zee zermans with a paddleboard.
In a way this was a tipping point because it was just so over the top nonsensical and everyone knew it was included for pandering.
In a way this was a tipping point because it was just so over the top nonsensical and everyone knew it was included for pandering.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
"Woke shit" predates 2016 mate
2016 is when it started to spread rapidly and more people started to notice.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
BF1 or BFV also had that mother and daughter Rambo tag team doing that real life event. I think the real life event involved Norwegian soldiers(?). DICE used their creative genius to turn it into a Xena and Gabrielle dynamic duo.
DirtInUrEye
Member
Cut the skinheads some slack.
PeteBull
Member
Holammer
Member
Nah, Gamergate started in 2014 and the early proto-woke with Tumblr & Occupy Wall Street in the early 2010s.
Dice was merely one of the first trying to cash in the new politically correct trend.
Remember how Tumblr tried to normalize weird shit like multiple systems, fronting, headmates, otherkin? Pepperidge farm remembers.
Dice was merely one of the first trying to cash in the new politically correct trend.
Remember how Tumblr tried to normalize weird shit like multiple systems, fronting, headmates, otherkin? Pepperidge farm remembers.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
so, are you not aware of the controversy then?
They had the bald chicks in their promos way before Naughty Dog had theirs. 2016 before all this woke shit.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
World War II is ableist, sexist, and racist. Thank you Dice for updating WW2 for the Modern Audience.
PeteBull
Member
Back in 2018 woke DICE general manager was so headstrong:
And in the end inevitable happened:
www.gamespot.com
And in the end inevitable happened:
Battlefield 5 Fails To Meet Sales Targets, And EA Explains Why
EA talks about why the PS4, Xbox One, and PC game struggled.
www.gamespot.com
Windom Earle
Member
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
That BFV trailer is full bullshot mode
Big Baller
Al Pachinko, Konami President
Worst timeline
The_Observer
Member
This. It’s interesting that no one calls them SJW anymore
Giallo Corsa
Member
Which Battlefield was it where they had the chick with a robotic arm fighting nazis in WW2?
Edit: there it is
I still remember the BF controversy and the usual PR, "woe is me" bullshit that it spawned, in particular Dice's game director (or something like that) saying in an interview that he was crying 'cause he didn't have the courage to explain to his little daughter how much racist and mean "internet trolls and bigots®" were on why a woman with an prosthetic arm shouldn't be featured in a game (or something along those lines)...
It was literally the "I'll take things that didn't happen for X $ Alex" meme in written form, absolutely zero self awareness and shame.
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kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
BFV Dev: I Knew Adding Female Soldiers Was Going To Be A Fight; There Are Other Authentic WW2 Games
BFV developer Alan Kertz (Design Director at DICE) said that he knew adding female soldiers was going to be a fight, but it's the right time to do so. He then pointed out that other World War 2 themed games are available for those seeking maximum authenticity.
wccftech.com
After the Twitter statement shared by DICE General Manager Oskar Gabrielson and his push for #Everyonesbattlefield, another veteran DICE developer spoke on the authenticity issue in Battlefield V raised by some fans.
Alan Kertz, currently Design Director at DICE on BFV and previously credited as a designer on every mainline Battlefield game since 2142, replied yesterday on Battlefield's Reddit channel and revealed to have pushed for BFV to be more inclusive.
I knew this was going to be a fight when I pushed for female soldiers in Battlefield. I have a daughter, and I don’t want to ever have to answer her question of “why can’t I make a character that looks like me” with “because you’re a girl.”
I fundamentally feel to my core this is the right way and I will find myself on the right side of history.
And I think many people will play the game despite their reservations. And maybe learn something about either history or themselves. That is part of the making games art.
I can’t speak for that timing, I know personally that I wasn’t in a position of enough influence to make it happen. I also know a lot in society has changed and for me personally I grew up a bit and looked at the world with new eyes. From within the industry we’ve seen so much male domination, for whatever reasons, and I work for a studio and a company that recognizes the value of diversity in what we do as game makers. That’s been a big deal for me also.
Sometimes just enough things come together to make it happen. It felt like an inevitability. The excuses were running out and the support was there... so it happens now.
VulcanRaven
Member
And the game was great.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Man do I miss playing BF1 with the bros.
Nobody called it woke back then but it sure had some weird stuff. Were there really black people on the german side on WWI?
Nobody called it woke back then but it sure had some weird stuff. Were there really black people on the german side on WWI?
InterMusketeer
Member
Though their inclusion has historical basis, female soldiers were not exactly prevalent in the Russian army. BF1 already made a lot of questionable choices before that DLC. 3 out of 4 player models in the British army were not white. There were black German soldiers too. Those decisions were made to boost diversity, not to make the game more accurate or realistic.
Radical_3d
Member
diffusionx
Gold Member
DICE was early on the representation thing, yea. Battlefield 4 was 2013 and hugely popular including on console - and overall a pretty gritty and grounded game. GamerGate was in 2014. Battlefield 1 was in 2016 and bythen companies were starting to make games in response to GG and for "modern audiences." It's a sequence of events.
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violence
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“Because your life is not expendable like a male?”
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Was a jolly old time back then.
VulcanRaven
Member
It had a great soundtrack:
Rocco Schiavone
Member
Best thing was still black male soldiers fighting for germany.
Well, we all know how that turned out for them, lol. Naughty Dog's fall will last longer because of how successful and popular their games have been for couple of decades. People tend to develop unhealthy attachment and sentiment in such cases, which results in them being in denial about where things are heading.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Games of Today
Member
Because women had important jobs that didn't relate to combat sweetie. Jobs on the Homefront making uniforms, riveting airplanes, working as trauma nurses in MASH units.
Is it really that hard to explain that? So retarded.
Games of Today
Member
They actually removed them at one point. You can still be a woman. But everyone on Germany is white now.Best thing was still black male soldiers fighting for germany.
You also play as the German empire not the Third Reich. It's like WW1 Germany invaded Poland lmao.
Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
captains log - it’s been 17 days since the reveal of Intergalactic. They’re STILL talking about it.
Giallo Corsa
Member
BFV Dev: I Knew Adding Female Soldiers Was Going To Be A Fight; There Are Other Authentic WW2 Games
BFV developer Alan Kertz (Design Director at DICE) said that he knew adding female soldiers was going to be a fight, but it's the right time to do so. He then pointed out that other World War 2 themed games are available for those seeking maximum authenticity.
After the Twitter statement shared by DICE General Manager Oskar Gabrielson and his push for #Everyonesbattlefield, another veteran DICE developer spoke on the authenticity issue in Battlefield V raised by some fans.
Alan Kertz, currently Design Director at DICE on BFV and previously credited as a designer on every mainline Battlefield game since 2142, replied yesterday on Battlefield's Reddit channel and revealed to have pushed for BFV to be more inclusive.
I knew this was going to be a fight when I pushed for female soldiers in Battlefield. I have a daughter, and I don’t want to ever have to answer her question of “why can’t I make a character that looks like me” with “because you’re a girl.”
I fundamentally feel to my core this is the right way and I will find myself on the right side of history.
And I think many people will play the game despite their reservations. And maybe learn something about either history or themselves. That is part of the making games art.
I can’t speak for that timing, I know personally that I wasn’t in a position of enough influence to make it happen. I also know a lot in society has changed and for me personally I grew up a bit and looked at the world with new eyes. From within the industry we’ve seen so much male domination, for whatever reasons, and I work for a studio and a company that recognizes the value of diversity in what we do as game makers. That’s been a big deal for me also.
Sometimes just enough things come together to make it happen. It felt like an inevitability. The excuses were running out and the support was there... so it happens now.
That's the one brother, cheers for digging it up
DirtInUrEye
Member
I'm surprised nobody's realised the visual glitch of the red dot being on the carton yet. It's supposed to be on her forehead. Probably still in pre alpha though. There's this whole backstory of her being the first woman of Hindu Inuit heritage that went interstellar.
{insert code here}
Member
Wow, I have not heard that term in years lol. I think it stopped being used because it became so rampant throughout the industry that you just assumed anyone who made or played video games was an SJW and had those viewpoints. Things seem to be going back to normal now which is great!
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Red Crayon Aristocrat
Member
Battlefield 1 was mildly Woke, which stood out at the time, today you just look back at what a great game it was, one of the last truly great AAA games from EA, if not the whole western sphere.
Year by year things just got woker and woker, resulting in something like a Concord, they're driving the industry into the ground and I don't think people even really realize how dire what happened to gaming is.
Year by year things just got woker and woker, resulting in something like a Concord, they're driving the industry into the ground and I don't think people even really realize how dire what happened to gaming is.
Radical_3d
Member
I don’t like thread shaming but neither thread slop. Someone had to do it.I remember when this was a bannable offense here