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Did DVD Audio ever take off?
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I've got a question about DVD audio. My father just got a car with a DVD audio player, and I'm probably going to be using the car as well. Now, is DVD audio like regular compact disc audio, in the sense that a disc can only hold like 20 odd songs? I was really hoping that the car was going to come with MP3 audio so I could load hundreds of songs onto a disc, but will DVD audio do the same?
Yeah, it's about the same amount of music, but with the right speakers it sounds fantastic.
MP3s? Hellz no.
First, it uses all 6 channels, it's not stereo.
And then I think the audio rate is 9.6 Mb/sec, whereas DVD movies is around 6 Mb/sec and CDs are much lower, and MP3s infinitely lower.
MP3s? Hellz no.
First, it uses all 6 channels, it's not stereo.
And then I think the audio rate is 9.6 Mb/sec, whereas DVD movies is around 6 Mb/sec and CDs are much lower, and MP3s infinitely lower.
kitchenmotors
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Dan said:
My copies of Medulla and The Downward Spiral say otherwise, as will my copy of With Teeth next week.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
kitchenmotors said:
same here
also got a copy of vespertine coming in the same order! next purchase : yoshimi vs the pink robotswhat's medulla like? worth the additional for 5.1?
I apologise for not contributing to the thread but I just wanted to throw a +1 up for Yoshimi vs. The Pink Robots. I searched high and low for the name of that particular song for quite a while with nothing but the "whup whup whaaaooooerr" bassline to go on, and finally managed to find it out. I love that song, and should probably be bothered to listen to some more of The Flaming Lips. [/de-rail]julls said:same here
what's medulla like? worth the additional for 5.1?
By the way -- I bought the new Ben Folds disc last night, and it's some piece of shit new format called a "DualDisc." One side is "CD," the other side is DVD. The package warned that the CD side didn't necessarily conform to the CD standard and might not work in some players, but I figured, "I have a new computer -- what's the chance of a problem?" The chance, apparently, is 100% since neither one of my drives could play it.
Avoid, avoid, avoid...
Avoid, avoid, avoid...
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
-jinx- said:
downward spiral (and with teeth) are boht dualdisc - no probs here... tho i heard they freak out in slot-loading drives
After reading this small thread:
http://playlistmag.com/forums/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=2227&page=&view=&sb=5&o=
I'm ready to say fuck their new "standards" and download the son of a bitch.
http://playlistmag.com/forums/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=2227&page=&view=&sb=5&o=
I'm ready to say fuck their new "standards" and download the son of a bitch.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
shantyman said:
hahaha, i was gonna do that with radiohead's hail to the thief because it would't play/rip on my computer.. but i ended up keeping it ;p don't quote me on the slot loading thing though - i might be way off... but one good thing about the dualdisc format is that it makes the dvd versions of albums a bit cheaper (from the looks) - $13 US for with teeth cd/dvd5.1
on a side note, ive just booked a flight to england to see NIN at brixton in july woooopwopwopwopwop *spins around on floor*
Christoff Yurievich
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Oh boy, a DVD-A thread! With SACD as well? hey, I'm set.
What I have -
DVD-Audio:
Claudio Abbado - Beethoven Symphonies 5 & 6, Symphony 9.
Trey Anastasio - Trey Anastasio
Barenaked Ladies - Maroon, Everything To Everyone (Limited Edition came with the DVD-A disc)
Beck - Sea Change, Guero (Again, the Limited Edition came with the DVD-A)
Blue Man Group - Audio, The Complex
The Crystal Method - Legion Of Boom
Everclear - So Much For The Afterglow
The Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots
Foo Fighters - One By One
Led Zeppelin - How The West Was Won
Linkin Park - Reanimation (yeah, well, it was cheap and sounds pretty good in surround)
Metallica - Metallica
Porcupine Tree - In Absentia
Elvis Presley - 30 #1 Hits
REM - Green, Out Of Time, Automatic For The People, Monster, New Adventures In Hi-Fi, Up, reveal, Around The Sun (These re-releases have two discs, one for the Cd and the other for the DVD-Audio)
Neil Young - Harvest, Greatest Hits (once again, the Limited Edition came with the DVD-Audio)
Dual Disc:
Keane - Hopes and Fears
Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral, With Teeth (May 3rd)
SACD:
"O Brother, Where Art Though" Soundtrack
Three Doors Down - Away From The Sun
Beck - Sea Change (yeah, I know)
David Bowie - Ziggy Stardust, Scary Monsters, Let's Dance, Heathen, Reality
Ray Charles - Genius Loves Company
Elton John - Elton John, Tumbleweed Connection, Madman Across The Water, Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, Honky Chateau, Captain Fantastic And The Dirt Brown Cowboy,
Keane - Hopes and Fears
Alison Krauss & Union Station - Live
Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral
The Who - My Generation, Tommy
Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition, A Night on Bald Mountain, and Other Russian Showpieces
George Gershwin: Rhapsody in Blue / Concerto in F / An American in Paris / Variations on "I Got Rhythm"
I'm sure I'm forgetting something as this is all from memory. There are also a few I still have to buy, such as Queen's "Night At The Opera" and Grateful Dead's "American Beauty".
Anyway, I like both formats. They both have their pros and cons, such as you have to have a television on to start the DVD-Audio because you have to choose 5.1 or 2.0 sound. At any rate, all of the albums I own sound great, whether in the 24-bit stereo pumping through my headphones or when I have time to sit and relax to listen to the surround mix.
a DVD-Audio disc will sound more than decent, close to phenomenal. A CD is 16-bit and the DVD-A is 24-bit. The car should have the discrete channels set-up, so you'll get true surround sound while driving. If I could afford one of these systems, I'd certainly get it for my car.
What I have -
DVD-Audio:
Claudio Abbado - Beethoven Symphonies 5 & 6, Symphony 9.
Trey Anastasio - Trey Anastasio
Barenaked Ladies - Maroon, Everything To Everyone (Limited Edition came with the DVD-A disc)
Beck - Sea Change, Guero (Again, the Limited Edition came with the DVD-A)
Blue Man Group - Audio, The Complex
The Crystal Method - Legion Of Boom
Everclear - So Much For The Afterglow
The Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots
Foo Fighters - One By One
Led Zeppelin - How The West Was Won
Linkin Park - Reanimation (yeah, well, it was cheap and sounds pretty good in surround)
Metallica - Metallica
Porcupine Tree - In Absentia
Elvis Presley - 30 #1 Hits
REM - Green, Out Of Time, Automatic For The People, Monster, New Adventures In Hi-Fi, Up, reveal, Around The Sun (These re-releases have two discs, one for the Cd and the other for the DVD-Audio)
Neil Young - Harvest, Greatest Hits (once again, the Limited Edition came with the DVD-Audio)
Dual Disc:
Keane - Hopes and Fears
Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral, With Teeth (May 3rd)
SACD:
"O Brother, Where Art Though" Soundtrack
Three Doors Down - Away From The Sun
Beck - Sea Change (yeah, I know)
David Bowie - Ziggy Stardust, Scary Monsters, Let's Dance, Heathen, Reality
Ray Charles - Genius Loves Company
Elton John - Elton John, Tumbleweed Connection, Madman Across The Water, Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, Honky Chateau, Captain Fantastic And The Dirt Brown Cowboy,
Keane - Hopes and Fears
Alison Krauss & Union Station - Live
Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral
The Who - My Generation, Tommy
Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition, A Night on Bald Mountain, and Other Russian Showpieces
George Gershwin: Rhapsody in Blue / Concerto in F / An American in Paris / Variations on "I Got Rhythm"
I'm sure I'm forgetting something as this is all from memory. There are also a few I still have to buy, such as Queen's "Night At The Opera" and Grateful Dead's "American Beauty".
Anyway, I like both formats. They both have their pros and cons, such as you have to have a television on to start the DVD-Audio because you have to choose 5.1 or 2.0 sound. At any rate, all of the albums I own sound great, whether in the 24-bit stereo pumping through my headphones or when I have time to sit and relax to listen to the surround mix.
I don't have the lol big enough...mattx5 said:Bah, so I can't just burn a DVD disc with a bunch of MP3s on it?
I'll check into the sound system of the car though, see if a DVD audio disc would actually sound decent on it...
a DVD-Audio disc will sound more than decent, close to phenomenal. A CD is 16-bit and the DVD-A is 24-bit. The car should have the discrete channels set-up, so you'll get true surround sound while driving. If I could afford one of these systems, I'd certainly get it for my car.
I have a 5 disc Sony ES SACD changer and I love to listen to SACD's. I have about 30 in my collection.
But alas, I am starting to believe its a dead end format.
Kind of thought DVD-Audio would have done better do to its DVD Video ties but I think people want music that is portable from home and car and whatever.
I guess surround sound rigs just are not in as many homes as I think.
But alas, I am starting to believe its a dead end format.
Kind of thought DVD-Audio would have done better do to its DVD Video ties but I think people want music that is portable from home and car and whatever.
I guess surround sound rigs just are not in as many homes as I think.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
bune duggy said:
what's this one like? i'm almost definitely getting it anyway - but is it worth it? i want totally over the top surround with sounds flying all over the place
Christoff Yurievich
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ask and ye shall receive. there's a video on there explaining how they went about mixing it for surround, it's kind of interesting. But the mix...oh the mix is very active.
I can't believe I forgot Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon SACD, my first SACD purchase and probably the best sounding one I have so far.
oh and I was reading today about a new SACD format that Sony is working on called Super Enhanced CD, which would basically be SACD sound with the video that we all have come to know and love from DVD. They've been working on it for about 2-3 years now, and it certainly explains why Sony BMG haven't released any high-res DualDisc releases.
I can't believe I forgot Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon SACD, my first SACD purchase and probably the best sounding one I have so far.
oh and I was reading today about a new SACD format that Sony is working on called Super Enhanced CD, which would basically be SACD sound with the video that we all have come to know and love from DVD. They've been working on it for about 2-3 years now, and it certainly explains why Sony BMG haven't released any high-res DualDisc releases.
AB 101 said:I have a 5 disc Sony ES SACD changer and I love to listen to SACD's. I have about 30 in my collection.
But alas, I am starting to believe its a dead end format.
Kind of thought DVD-Audio would have done better do to its DVD Video ties but I think people want music that is portable from home and car and whatever.
I guess surround sound rigs just are not in as many homes as I think.
HD audio is a dead-end format. In case it isn't obvoius, people care more about portability and the ability to move large volumes of music rather than smaller amounts of high fidelity audio. Look at the market size for MP3 players (which also has multiple splintered formats) compared to HD audio.
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