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Did my boyfriend emotionally cheat on me?

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Twio

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I'll try my best to keep this not ridiculously long, but I essentially just want an unbiased POV on whether or not my SO [20M] emotionally cheated on me, or if perhaps I was being too insecure and jealous about the situation. If it matters I'm a 19 year old male.

My SO and I started dating about two and a half months ago but were friends for eight months prior, and even became best friends towards the latter of those eight months which is when we realized we both actually had strong romantic feelings for each other. I always knew I liked him and we fooled around on a somewhat consistent basis throughout our friendship but he had a lot of serious issues in his life (including mental illness) in addition to a somewhat recent relationship he was still dealing with a lot of damage from.

From the very get-go of just being friends with him I always sensed something was just off. He lied quite a bit, would humor things like us possibly going out on a date and then later shut it down and put me in the friend zone (prior to hooking up for the first time he told me he was excited to "hang out with a gay dude and have it be non-sexual", yet it turned sexual which made me think he had feelings for me which he vehemently denied and got upset at me for getting upset about him seemingly leading me on the day after). During our friendship I also noticed that he had quite a few casual relationships with guys that he would deny to me, and when I mentioned them to him he'd lie about them despite me seeing him have PDA with other dudes on our campus. These "casual relationships" would always go sour however from what I observed as he would make the guy think they were something they weren't and then the guy would get upset and stop talking to him once they saw he had casual things with other guys and wouldn't commit. He essentially led them on.

Flash forward to the start of our relationship, everything was perfect. Despite him treating me questionably during our friendship he convinced me that he was just lost and it was a rough patch in his life that clouded his judgement. It was like a fresh start, and we loved each other as best friends and as each other's SO.

It was a bit long distance however as despite us going to the same university we started dating immediately after school ended, we made it official on our first date that we met up in the city for. We were together for about four days consecutively in the city about a week after our first date, however things started going wrong in his life soon after.

I won't get into details however a friend that was interested in him (that my SO seemingly led on) did something absolutely terrible to spite him for dating me, he was mentally ill besides and it wasn't my SO's fault however it effected him quite a bit and definitely let distance grow between us. We had (expensive) plans in NYC I arranged for my birthday soon after this happened that he bailed on at the last minute with what I found out was an illegitimate excuse after the fact, a few weeks later he slept through our plans to attend NYC pride and stay in the city for a few days together (at this point I started getting very upset and aggravated as he was hanging out with all his friends back home at this point, just not me. I also wasted quite a but of money on him again with him flaking in addition to him having me wait on him for four hours at the train station) and to make it all worse it started becoming apparent that his excuses for not hanging out with me were all half-truths.

Our relationship became more and more rocky as he was consistently fucking up but, me being naive, decided to stay with him since we still loved each other. Once I realized he had no real excuse to not see me or even talk to me on the phone however I started pushing him as I just couldn't understand why he didn't want to see me when he was going out of his way to hang out with other people, he even gave up his summer job just to hangout with his friends for two days. We got into quite a few bad fights over it, as I didn't think I was asking for a lot but he insisted I was due to the current state of his life and it ended up with him breaking up with me in a text message.

A day later he came back, messaged me apologizing and proclaiming that he's just having problems with the "guilt that he feels for treating me so badly". He agrees to treat me better and I agree to be more understanding, as at this time he was very unstable mentally and still having quite a few major issues pop up in his life. I was being as supportive as I could be, even staying in two nights during my vacation to comfort him when he was texting me about his depression but it always went unappreciated and he always found fault in me no matter what I did. Given he did warn me that he's "mentally unstable/ill" due to all the traumatic events occurring in his life right now, a task I told him I could take up however it became too much for me when he still refused to call me or see me, and it all came to a head when he cheated on me, emotionally for sure.

About two days after a fight we had that left us in the best shape I felt we'd been in relationship-wise in awhile I found out on social media that he was in NYC, the city I'm only 20 minutes away from that I'd been asking him to hang out in for the past two months. I immediately asked if he was okay and if something had happened to which he told me "yeah I'm fine", which I got upset about because if he was just in the city to hangout then I didn't see why he couldn't come down to see me. My intuition was reading really bad vibes and I ended up being right.

I pushed him on why he wouldn't see me, and why he was already bailing on the concert plans we had in a week in NYC that we made together two months ago. However instead of us coming to some sort of compromise besides his excuse of "not wanting to do anything before he knows what he wants for the long term" he broke up with me, again, in a text. We again reconciled the next day and got back together however. Things were fine and it seemed like we were back on track to taking baby steps towards us being in a happy relationship again, because despite the way he treated me every time I showed I was at my width's end with him he'd switch his tune and convince me to stay because I was one of a kind and he needed me.

Two days after this I again find out on social media that he's still in NYC. Note that he didn't tell me he was even going and didn't tell me he'd be staying for more than a few days. It wasn't that I needed to know his business either, I just found it troubling that he was keeping this from me, especially when he knew I was operating under the assumption that he was back home. I confronted him about it and he told me he was staying with his friend Paul in the city for a few days to escape his family arguing. I look up Paul and he's a single gay dude he friended on facebook a month ago. Our relationship wasn't in good shape at this point nor were we on great terms so I nonchalantly asked if he was seeing him and he instantly got defensive and turned it around on me, trying to make me feel bad for asking. I tell him that even if he didn't physically cheat on me he emotionally did since he didn't tell me anything about his family arguing so badly that he needed to leave (he in fact lied about it since I did ask him what was wrong when I found out he was in NYC and he said nothing was wrong) but chose to go travel to another city to confide in this guy instead, this guy that he obviously got close enough to stay with and emotionally invested in while we were dating since they only knew each other for a month.

I ripped into him and broke up with him because I was so hurt, I felt like I was being treated like his backup boyfriend and playing second fiddle to this guy he was staying with. Especially considering he wasn't even going to tell me he was staying in NYC with him had I not pressed it. I also correctly assumed that he was shitting on our relationship HE wanted me to stay in so bad with Paul as he broke up with me in that text after I pushed us hanging out further the first day he hung out with Paul in the city. He got so offended by my claims that he emotionally cheated on me/breaking up with him that he unfriended me on facebook and told me to "never message me again". Given my messages were kind of fucked up because I was so fed up I wasn't surprised but he still thought he did nothing wrong by not seeing me in two months, emotionally investing in a single gay dude behind my back during that time, going to NYC to escape his issues with him, and confiding in him rather than me, while he's dating me. In addition to shitting on our relationship with him and keeping him being in NYC with him secret from me.

I text him the next day doubling down on what I said which he mistook for me regretting what I said and wanting to be together, as he still was convinced he did nothing wrong. I spelled out everything for him and why it's wrong as well as I could while trying (and mostly failing) to keep my cool however it just ended up with him getting offended and defensive, refusing to take blame for anything.

As of right now I deleted his number and have no plans of going back, however I just wanted an unbiased perspective to reassure me that I have a right to be as upset as I am about his actions. He truly got inside my head in our last conversation and made me feel like the bad guy for accusing him of emotional cheating, as he told me he "was just seeking refuge away from his problems, not getting close to another guy" and that I'm "cruel" for accusing him of emotionally cheating on me.

Also just to note, I went as far as to block him on all social media after I went on Paul's facebook page the day we had our last conversation and saw a new post from him boasting about buying my SO a $500 train pass for the month of August to come down and see him. That truly showed me that my SO just has no respect for me and was going on as if he was single the entire time we were dating. And furthermore convinced me that he truly does need serious professional help if he thinks this kind of behavior is appropriate in a relationship, especially given our circumstances.
 
Why are you even questioning it? There's no reason to be with someone that treats you that way. The guy just sounds like a parasitic narcissist that acts weak to draw in sympathetic people he can emotionally mooch off of.

Of course you're second fiddle. It sounds like every guy is second fiddle to him, because his one true love is himself.
 

Fugu

Member
I actually had a hard time finishing this.

This guy is using you. Run. This is as straightforward as it gets.
 

Corpekata

Banned
Don't know about emotionally cheating but he sounds like kind of a dickhead in general.

And it sounds like WAY too much drama for your age. Bail the fuck out.
 

WaffleTaco

Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
I couldn't finish it...like I got half way through it and didn't even get to whatever emotionally cheating part. He's a jerk, he doesn't respect you, and you deserve someone who is going to treat you right.
 
He definitely cheated on you emotionally and probably physically as well. His actions read as terribly manipulative to me and you're not in the wrong at all.
 
I'm not, I broke up with him and don't plan on turning back. Just wanted to make sure I guess, as he did a great job of making me feel at fault.

I'll admit I didn't read the whole thing, but I read more than enough to know that this relationship was never ever going to work, so you did the right thing.
 
I'm gonna let you in on something.

If you feel like something your SO did was emotionally unfaithful.

That's what it was. You set your parameters for what does and does not constitute that.
 
Definitely try harder next time, skimmed a bit, don't know exactly why you accused him of emotionally cheating (what would be this exactly?) but there were problems since day 1, you are going to be better now
 
I'm not, I broke up with him and don't plan on turning back. Just wanted to make sure I guess, as he did a great job of making me feel at fault.
People that try to turn your emotions around back on you, to make you feel like every bad thing they do to you is somehow your fault, are just despicable. I hope you never have to deal with anyone like that ever again. It is totally abusive.
 
It sounds like the relationship was very one-sided from the beginning and you were the one putting in the majority of the effort to keep it afloat. More than it was worth, evidently, but it might have reached a point where he felt you were clingy. Perhaps there were times that you felt that you both were on the same page emotionally, but he felt, in actuality, differently about something.

He seems flaky, unreliable, and untrustworthy throughout your narrative. I don't know who prompted all the times of getting back together (in spite of the red flags), but it always seemed to end in a similar fashion. I know it can be tempting to try to get the last word in, but for your own sanity, don't engage with him anymore.

All you can do is cut him out of your life and move on.
 

Ultima_5

Member
Yah you made the right choice. It'll hurt for a bit but you'll get over it quick enough. It was only a few months after all. No point in dealing with this kind of stuff in a relationship
 

Blyr

Banned
Yes, he did emotionally cheat on you, there's no doubt about that.

From what you posted, don't think this was your fault, as him "constantly leading people on" just reads as this guy being an emotional parasite feeding off of people, then attaching himself to someone new who comes along that is unfamiliar with his BS.

Situation is 110% screwed up, and I'm glad you realized something was wrong and got away before you invested any more time or money into someone who was just using you.
 

Kid Ying

Member
It was long, but i endured.

To answer your question: Yes.

The guy is an ass. I don't think you overreacted or somerhing like this. He acted like a spoiled fool and no one deserves to be in a relationship where he is not being respected.

By doing all this shit, he clearly didn't respected you. Arguing is normal, lies, secrets and frequent apologies and changes of heart are not.
 

Twio

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It sounds like the relationship was very one-sided from the beginning and you were the one putting in the majority of the effort to keep it afloat. More than it was worth, evidently, but it might have reached a point where he felt you were clingy. Perhaps there were times that you felt that you both were on the same page emotionally, but he felt, in actuality, differently about something.

He seems flaky, unreliable, and untrustworthy throughout your narrative. I don't know who prompted all the times of getting back together (in spite of the red flags), but it always seemed to end in a similar fashion. I know it can be tempting to try to get the last word in, but for your own sanity, don't engage with him anymore.

All you can do is cut him out of your life and move on.

I completely agree. Often times our arguments ended with me being inclined to leave and him flipping from turning everything around on me to taking the blame out of wanting me to stay with him. I feel like I was just his emotional crutch more than anything else, I was the best boyfriend he ever could have asked for given the way he treated me.
 
Awful lot of drama for two months. Dude doesn't sound like he's worth your time at all. Move on and find someone who actually appreciates the kind of effort and patience you put into this relationship.
 
I don't think you're really asking the right question. You shouldn't be leaving him because he emotionally cheated (which he did and almost certainly more than that). You should be leaving him because he's a chronic liar who you can't trust and treats you like shit.

I think what you should take away from this is that when you know someone is a liar, treats you poorly and has multiple mental health issues you need to question if you should start a relationship with them. There are so many big red flags in the OP and that's just what you told had about. You can do better than accepting that.
 

Faustek

Member
As of right now I deleted his number and have no plans of going back, however I just wanted an unbiased perspective to reassure me that I have a right to be as upset as I am about his actions. He truly got inside my head in our last conversation and made me feel like the bad guy for accusing him of emotional cheating, as he told me he "was just seeking refuge away from his problems, not getting close to another guy" and that I'm "cruel" for accusing him of emotionally cheating on me..

Nope. Nothing to feel bad about, sorry to say but if he wasn't jumping up and down on someone else fun stick I would be surprised.

Only cruel thing I get from this is what you have done to yourself by going back to what seems to be a major ass. Yes you are young, you will get burned part of growing up and becoming another cynical with crushed dreams, we have meetings every third Wednesday pm me for more info, but damn. He was a total ass with you. Bet your ass he knew he was leading everyone on but refused to verbalise since that would endanger his fun time. Manipulating and dickish. Being young is not an excuse for just coming out and saying "No, I don't want to" but that goes back to what I said earlier about how that would put his fun time in bucket.
Nah, if you speak to him again do yourself a favour and just punt him in the balls and walk away.
 

Kyne

Member
Awful lot of drama for two months. Dude doesn't sound like he's worth your time at all. Move on and find someone who actually appreciates the kind of effort and patience you put into this relationship.

Awful lot of drama for two months. Dude doesn't sound like he's worth your time at all. Move on and find someone who actually appreciates the kind of effort and patience you put into this relationship.

Awful lot of drama for two months. Dude doesn't sound like he's worth your time at all. Move on and find someone who actually appreciates the kind of effort and patience you put into this relationship.

Awful lot of drama for two months. Dude doesn't sound like he's worth your time at all. Move on and find someone who actually appreciates the kind of effort and patience you put into this relationship.

Awful lot of drama for two months. Dude doesn't sound like he's worth your time at all. Move on and find someone who actually appreciates the kind of effort and patience you put into this relationship.

Awful lot of drama for two months. Dude doesn't sound like he's worth your time at all. Move on and find someone who actually appreciates the kind of effort and patience you put into this relationship.

^
 

Replicant

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Your BF sounds like a sociopath. Love bombing at first, gaslighting in the middle to adjust your expectations, then finally doing the dumping phase before torturing you back and forth with his indecisions.

Move on. There's nothing to salvage there. Can you seriously trust him after all of that?
 

Twio

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Your BF sounds like a sociopath. Love bombing at first, gaslighting in the middle to adjust your expectations, then finally doing the dumping phase before torturing you back and forth with his indecisions.

Move on. There's nothing to salvage there. Can you seriously trust him after all of that?

Either he's an un-diagnosed sociopath or he has un-diagnosed BPD/narcissistic personality disorder, one or the other. I just hope for his sake that he seeks professional help when it's free and available to him when our semester starts again. One night he had a breakdown and opened up to me about his issue of him "jumping from guy to guy emotionally", so it's definitely something he's conscious of. I'm scared in his mental state that he's going to convince himself that I was the problem and this new guy he's with is his knight in shining armor, but thankfully what he thinks isn't my problem anymore :)

Edit: Also thank you to everyone who did (and didn't) take the time to read my post, haha. Despite all my friends reassuring me that he's a complete psycho I just wanted to make sure, because I never want to hurt anyone so I always like to make sure I'm in the right when I have to
 

NateDog

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I'm sorry you've had to deal with something like this, and when you're still so young. You did the right thing (really you should have cut it off way earlier), you don't deserve to be treated like that, there isn't a single question about it. I suppose the only thing you can do is be glad it happened very early on and just try and move on and never let anyone treat you like that again. Good luck OP.
 

Ishan

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Quite long post op quite frankly I unfortunately didn't make it thru the whole thing and normally ... Normally guys don't emotionally cheat or if they do it hardly means much . If it seems that way the guy is probably using you as a backup . We're normally pretty straight forward. And sucky as it sounds as others have pointed out its early in life :) things will work out op
 

Twio

Member
Quite long post op quite frankly I unfortunately didn't make it thru the whole thing and normally ... Normally guys don't emotionally cheat or if they do it hardly means much . We're normally pretty straight forward. And sucky as it sounds as others have pointed out its early in life :) things will work out op

Na he has major psychological issues and has admitted to doing exactly what he did to me to his past boyfriends so it meant a lot in this case, he single-handedly ruined something that could have been amazing and hurt me really bad in the process. I'll be fine though, I know I deserve way better than what he gave me. I don't wish him any ill will either I just hope he gets the professional help he needs.

I'm sorry you've had to deal with something like this, and when you're still so young. You did the right thing (really you should have cut it off way earlier), you don't deserve to be treated like that, there isn't a single question about it. I suppose the only thing you can do is be glad it happened very early on and just try and move on and never let anyone treat you like that again. Good luck OP.

Thanks dawg ;)
 

Twio

Member
It's not working. Doesn't matter if he is (not) faithful to you.

Very true, the short period where the relationship was perfect and amazing made me convince myself for 2+ months that he wasn't the shitty guy he was for the rest of the time that I knew him. Guess it's a good thing I couldn't keep that up for forever.

People aren't switches after all, they don't change overnight.
 

kavanf1

Member
Guy is asshole, you're better off without him. It's obvious within a couple of paragraphs, but the additional context confirms it.
 
Quite long post op quite frankly I unfortunately didn't make it thru the whole thing and normally ... Normally guys don't emotionally cheat or if they do it hardly means much . If it seems that way the guy is probably using you as a backup . We're normally pretty straight forward. And sucky as it sounds as others have pointed out its early in life :) things will work out op

Is this based on the whole men aren't emotional shtick? Of course guys emotionally cheat and it does mean whatever emotionally cheating means to the affected parties.

@OP, sounded like a rather onesided relationship. Good for you to finally get out.
 

DeathyBoy

Banned
Very true, the short period where the relationship was perfect and amazing made me convince myself for 2+ months that he wasn't the shitty guy he was for the rest of the time that I knew him. Guess it's a good thing I couldn't keep that up for forever.

People aren't switches after all, they don't change overnight.

If it's any consolation, you gave it everything you could. Be proud of that. Some lucky guy down the line will appreciate that, in contrast to this muppet...

... I'd like to apologise to any and all muppets for comparing them to this creep.
 

thetrin

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This guy is treating you like garbage. Leave him.
 

Twio

Member
If it's any consolation, you gave it everything you could. Be proud of that. Some lucky guy down the line will appreciate that, in contrast to this muppet...

... I'd like to apologise to any and all muppets for comparing them to this creep.

Haha I am, because I love living my life with no regrets and I have none about how this ended. Now there isn't even the slightest bit of uncertainty in my head that he's just a fucked up ass hole. I don't care how much shit you're going through in life, that's never an excuse to treat someone like garbage.

And it's funny because he honestly told me he could poke holes in the argument I made for him emotionally cheating on me if he wanted to, but that he wouldn't because "I wouldn't listen".

I think that's the type of argument a first grader would make

He could read this entire thread and still be convinced in his head that I'm the one at fault, I find it more sad that hurtful at this point tbh

This guy is treating you like garbage. Leave him.

I hath done so!
 

Cheerilee

Member
You went above and beyond while he wouldn't do the bare minimum. Don't question it. Walk away with your head held high and don't look back. You can do better. From the sound of it, you could do better by being forever alone. Next time, don't try so hard to make the relationship work unless the other guy is at least willing to let it work (although ideally they should put in some effort and meet you halfway).
 

Hazaro

relies on auto-aim
He sounds dumb, good you bailed.

Though you should recognize you're probably pretty emotional about this stuff (since you're young) so listening to your friends might be a good idea if they got those vibes first.
 

Atrophis

Member
Despite all my friends reassuring me that he's a complete psycho I just wanted to make sure, because I never want to hurt anyone so I always like to make sure I'm in the right when I have to

Dude the only person responsible for your happiness is yourself. You have to do whatever you have to do to make yourself happy. You don't need any other justification to dump someone.
 

Cikay

Member
You are talking about a less-than-3-months relationship that is already not healthy.
You are 19.
Move on.
There's plenty of other cool guys that will love and respect you.
 

Jzero

Member
The obvious answer is: Stop getting back with him.
Love blinds you even though you already know your loved one is a piece of shit (it's happened to me as well)
 
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