Cerebral Palsy
Banned
SMK is king. I was really into MK64, but didn't care for DD at all.
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Did you like Mario Kart Double Dash?
- Thread starter Idioteque
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What was so great about the CO-OP? It's not that me and my friends can't cooperate, because when we played the multiplayer with 2 players on one kart it was kind of fun, it just wasn't build enough for the final realese of the game :\
I want to see tag battles, it could be interesting
Especially when you try to screw your partner in order to spite him :lol
I want to see tag battles, it could be interesting
Especially when you try to screw your partner in order to spite him :lolI have overdosed on mariokart since it's first outing on the snes. It is by far the game i have played most on in any generation it has appeared on.
Doubledash is i have to say the finest of the series, where multiplayer is concerned. Ask me that a year ago and the snes version would have been my choice of the three. But doubledash has stood the test of time. It still makes at least 5/6 30 year old blokes get together every monday night for 3/4 hours of MK: DD greatness. It's become a sport it's that competative! With large amounts of banter doing the rounds... and loser's pads being passed to the people waiting.
Sure there are minor negative points like the battle mode etc (and i miss 'the hop') but overall it is the best of the series.
MK: DD
SMK
MK64
Deezel
Doubledash is i have to say the finest of the series, where multiplayer is concerned. Ask me that a year ago and the snes version would have been my choice of the three. But doubledash has stood the test of time. It still makes at least 5/6 30 year old blokes get together every monday night for 3/4 hours of MK: DD greatness. It's become a sport it's that competative! With large amounts of banter doing the rounds... and loser's pads being passed to the people waiting.
Sure there are minor negative points like the battle mode etc (and i miss 'the hop') but overall it is the best of the series.
MK: DD
SMK
MK64
Deezel
TheTurtleTitan
Member
I didn't like it, by far my least favorite Mario Kart.
Bad track design (save for a few), lame battle maps, incredibly unfair AI (the AI is hard in each one, but Jesus, what a bunch of cheating bastards), and horrible, HORRIBLE music (loved Kart 64 music, what the hell is with the Saturday Morning Cartoon-sounded theme music compared to the epic Kart 64 theme).
Bad track design (save for a few), lame battle maps, incredibly unfair AI (the AI is hard in each one, but Jesus, what a bunch of cheating bastards), and horrible, HORRIBLE music (loved Kart 64 music, what the hell is with the Saturday Morning Cartoon-sounded theme music compared to the epic Kart 64 theme).
Parallax Scroll
Banned
The two-man setup is a great opportunity for more casual gamers to get in on the action. We'll usually put the most skilled drivers on point and let whoever else is around take up the gunner position. After doing that for a while, some of my casual gaming friends have turned into some seriously good gunners. It's all about communication, too - you've got to know when to pass a weapon back to the other guy, or when NOT to make a blue spark.
The team dynamic alone makes Double Dash great.
The team dynamic alone makes Double Dash great.
Bartman3010
Banned
Mario Kart DD was...alright. I won it free at a Game Crazy when they held a Mario Kart tourney (With a horrible turnout, I was the only person of the 8-10 who signed up who ACTUALLY showed up.) But if I were to buy it, I'd spend no more than $20, mostly since, well, its Mario Kart, and the gameplay is just as fun, but the tracks are so few. We're in the '128-bit' generation of video games and Mario Kart is still at the same length of any other Mario Kart. Especially comparing it to Super Smash Bros. Melee, which gave you a lot to play the game again for. Hell, especially compared to Mario Kart Super Circuit. A GBA game with less capacity for storage and Double Dash only gives you 16 tracks. Yet SC gives you 20 all new ones and 20 Super Mario Kart tracks. Granted, Double Dash gives you system link capabilities for up to 8-16 players depending, but the lack of character and car selection...doesnt make a whole lot of sense.
I will say this. I wish they would bring back the double character gameplay again, I'm glad that they had 8 MORE Mario characters to choose from, including characters missing from Mario Kart 64 and Super Circuit like Koopa Troopa. And the special items added to the stradegy of combining characters. It really works for multiplayer.
Really, if there were more tracks (Maybe even Mario Kart 64 tracks) and the ones that are there had a more challenging design to them, and let you pick characters in LAN mode, I would've bought another system and copy of the game and gone haywire with multiplayer tourneys.
I'm eagerly awaiting Mario Kart DS and Arcade though, despite the lack of personal cars and double character gameplay.
I mean, come on, Mario and Pac-Man rubber to rubber, thats awesome! (Arcade)
and the complimation or 'Best of' track selection in Mario Kart DS.
I will say this. I wish they would bring back the double character gameplay again, I'm glad that they had 8 MORE Mario characters to choose from, including characters missing from Mario Kart 64 and Super Circuit like Koopa Troopa. And the special items added to the stradegy of combining characters. It really works for multiplayer.
Really, if there were more tracks (Maybe even Mario Kart 64 tracks) and the ones that are there had a more challenging design to them, and let you pick characters in LAN mode, I would've bought another system and copy of the game and gone haywire with multiplayer tourneys.
I'm eagerly awaiting Mario Kart DS and Arcade though, despite the lack of personal cars and double character gameplay.
I mean, come on, Mario and Pac-Man rubber to rubber, thats awesome! (Arcade)
and the complimation or 'Best of' track selection in Mario Kart DS.
captainbiotch
Banned
Fucking excellent once you get 3-4 players, forgettable without.
Idioteque said:
Any game that I can "rent and beat" usually doesn't make it to the "purchase" phase, for me. But if they ever make it a "Player's Choice" title, I'll probably get it. It's damn fun. I personally think the 3D Mario Karts are totally the way to go. The 2D ones just feel wrong now. (And they always felt a little strange.)
Jive Turkey
Unconfirmed Member
I personally loved Double Dash. It had some flaws unfortunately (battle maps flat out sucked except for the tilting 8 bit Mario map and the severe lack of short cuts in the races) but it's still a great addition to the MK series. Co-op racing alone makes it a blast!
TheTurtleTitan
Member
I also liked the team-up idea. But the rest of the game (poor tracks, music, etc.) made it suffer, IMO. Oh yeah, the lack of shortcuts sucked too (there were tons of clever ones in Kart 64, even if some were glitches).Parallax Scroll said:
And thanks to the negativity about the game, Nintendo will think that the reason people hated Double Dash was BECAUSE of the team-up, and we will likely never ever see it again (looking at DS and Arcade).
BOO!
Error Macro
Member
MK: DD blew the fucking shit out of MK64. Not as good as the original though, of course.
Shin Johnpv
Member
I liked it quite a bit
but I will admit it was the first Mario Kart I actually got into
it seems to me alot of people who like the older games werent too into the newer one *shrug*
but I will admit it was the first Mario Kart I actually got into
it seems to me alot of people who like the older games werent too into the newer one *shrug*
I loathed MK64, but luved SMK (and Diddy Kong Racing). DD iz the best one to hit since the original.
The only bad thing i can say about the game iz that its production values pale in comparison with other Nintendo 1st-party hits.
Other than that, i'll go on to say it's the most enjoyable multi-player game i've played in ages.
The only bad thing i can say about the game iz that its production values pale in comparison with other Nintendo 1st-party hits.
Other than that, i'll go on to say it's the most enjoyable multi-player game i've played in ages.
CO_Andy said:
IT'S NOT "LUVED", IT'S "LOVED."
IT'S NOT "IZ", IT'S "IS."
IT'S NOT "LUVED", IT'S "LOVED."
IT'S NOT "IZ", IT'S "IS."
IT'S NOT "LUVED", IT'S "LOVED."
IT'S NOT "IZ", IT'S "IS."
God, stop writing like that. You sound like a douchebag. Don't give any douchebagery smiles either, you have the ability to stop writing like a fuckface so STOP.
Cerebral Palsy
Banned
Ugh, I couldn't stand Diddy Kong Racing at all.
CO_Andy said:
If you want to give your writing some style or individuality, then just express your opinions in your own unique way. Changing the rules of english, or the spelling of words just makes you sound uneducated or immature.
Trust me, CO_Andy, we won't think that you're not an individual if you stop writing "IZ." In fact, most of us will appreciate it and think that you've learned a bit to respect the language. I know I'm being a bit anal, and I make English mistakes all the time... but intentionally doing it on things that are so obvious is pretty silly, imo.
Anyway, just try it out. We'll still respond to your statements, and you'll still be CO_Andy.
Mr. Bigglesworth
Member
Nintendo should have been shot for releasing the game with those 'Battle Mode' courses. The Luigi's Mansion track was the only one that wasn't complete n' utter shit.
Spent many, many, many hours playing battle mode with friends on the Snes and N64 versions, so it was really dissapointing.
Single player was cool, but very shortlived.
Spent many, many, many hours playing battle mode with friends on the Snes and N64 versions, so it was really dissapointing.
Single player was cool, but very shortlived.
My spelling errors are intentional for the few words i do change, and that's just the way i've always liked writing online. It's not like my grammar iz totally off-base, so really i don't see anything wrong.Amir0x said:If you want to give your writing some style or individuality, then just express your opinions in your own unique way. Changing the rules of english, or the spelling of words just makes you sound uneducated or immature.
Trust me, CO_Andy, we won't think that you're not an individual if you stop writing "IZ." In fact, most of us will appreciate it and think that you've learned a bit to respect the language. I know I'm being a bit anal, and I make English mistakes all the time... but intentionally doing it on things that are so obvious is pretty silly, imo.
Anyway, just try it out. We'll still respond to your statements, and you'll still be CO_Andy.
Azure Dream
Member
I was kind of underwhelmed with the end product. There were a handful of great levels (or at least great ideas), and a bunch of really bland ones, some even seeming derivative. (Wario's course looked like a poorly-adapted F-Zero GX track, Dino Dino Jungle would've been more at home at Diddy Kong Racing, and while Diddy was in the game, it just didn't seem to fit.)
The dual-character system in single player basically ended up as "Now you have two talking item recepticals!" Instead of your stats and abilities being based on which characters you picked and which position they took (switch a heavy character to the back for better traction in mud, for example), they simply limited which karts you could pick and made those determine the stats. I've heard that Co-Op was enjoyable, but since they didn't include any online functionality for that, and I don't really know much of anyone locally who'd care to play Mario Kart, I couldn't really give that a go.
That made Battle Mode worse, as well. Fourth iteration of the title, and still no bots? They bothered to include LAN play, but they refused to go that extra step of setting up an official online portal, even though fans managed to do it because they wanted it so badly? A highly demanded feature, thrown by the wayside. (I'm very glad to hear that MKDS includes both online _and_ bots.)
And as it was said above, something was just... off about the polish. Exiting out of a mode or winning a cup took you back to the title screen, where you had to press start again just to get back into the menu, little choices like that which made things awkward. The music was mediocre for the most part, and character chatter repetitive. ("HI I'M DAISY!" is the oddest stock phrase in a while, for how many times she'd use it.) I don't know, it just didn't feel like they put their top effort into it. People kept looking for an extra cup with Retro tracks that wasn't there, graphics were OK (but some of the karters looked quite odd, like Bowser), it just seemed like they were only whipping something up just to milk the franchise a bit. Not that I'm saying it wasn't decent, it just didn't seem like they gave it enough development attention.
The dual-character system in single player basically ended up as "Now you have two talking item recepticals!" Instead of your stats and abilities being based on which characters you picked and which position they took (switch a heavy character to the back for better traction in mud, for example), they simply limited which karts you could pick and made those determine the stats. I've heard that Co-Op was enjoyable, but since they didn't include any online functionality for that, and I don't really know much of anyone locally who'd care to play Mario Kart, I couldn't really give that a go.
That made Battle Mode worse, as well. Fourth iteration of the title, and still no bots? They bothered to include LAN play, but they refused to go that extra step of setting up an official online portal, even though fans managed to do it because they wanted it so badly? A highly demanded feature, thrown by the wayside. (I'm very glad to hear that MKDS includes both online _and_ bots.)
And as it was said above, something was just... off about the polish. Exiting out of a mode or winning a cup took you back to the title screen, where you had to press start again just to get back into the menu, little choices like that which made things awkward. The music was mediocre for the most part, and character chatter repetitive. ("HI I'M DAISY!" is the oddest stock phrase in a while, for how many times she'd use it.) I don't know, it just didn't feel like they put their top effort into it. People kept looking for an extra cup with Retro tracks that wasn't there, graphics were OK (but some of the karters looked quite odd, like Bowser), it just seemed like they were only whipping something up just to milk the franchise a bit. Not that I'm saying it wasn't decent, it just didn't seem like they gave it enough development attention.
CO_Andy said:
Intentional or not, it makes you sound daft. Why the hell would you want to sound slow? So yes, it's not "wrong" in the traditional sense. It is, however, very annoying and although I don't speak for everyone I find it difficult to believe that there's even a single person who appreciates your "individuality" in your posts. Because it makes you sound like an idiot.
Like I said, try it without the dumb.
Kulock said:
I agree completly about the 2 players part. They just forced you to take 2 characters, gave you a kart that fits the bigger character and that's it. Adding some physics to it would have been really cool.
About the bots - as cool as that would be, that's like playing against the bots in SSBM or Mario party. You can't laugh at them for losing or taking a hit, and that's the best part of playing multiplayer. Adding bots wouldn't have helped the game, an online mode however, would have.
Oh and about the phrases of the characters, just think of it as a second taunt
You can really annoy your friends with some of the characters' phrases.Grammar nazis or 'Battle Mode' ... which is worse?
Honestly, I never would have bought the game but it came with my Cube. It's single play was OK. I have only gotten a chance to play 2 player mode for multiplay .. which is, again, just OK.
Which really highlights why it is such a crime that DD does not have online play. It could've been a real killer app (ala Halo) if they had SOME sort of OL multiplay.
At some point with racing games, the AI either becomes to easy (because you have mastered all the tracks) or it has to cheat to compete. That is why on-line multiplay is a necessity nowadays. Most people don't have 4 friends that can play together at the same time.
Honestly, I never would have bought the game but it came with my Cube. It's single play was OK. I have only gotten a chance to play 2 player mode for multiplay .. which is, again, just OK.
Which really highlights why it is such a crime that DD does not have online play. It could've been a real killer app (ala Halo) if they had SOME sort of OL multiplay.
At some point with racing games, the AI either becomes to easy (because you have mastered all the tracks) or it has to cheat to compete. That is why on-line multiplay is a necessity nowadays. Most people don't have 4 friends that can play together at the same time.
Son of Godzilla
Banned
It's probably my favorite MK. By far the best track design since the original's bonus tracks. The only flat out bad track is Yoshi's. And even then, Yoshi's is great in multiplayer to see who can make it through that hellhole the best. The Dino track misses out on being a good idea, but the actual track makes up for the bland concept. All the other tracks are really great. Kicks the total shit out of the 64 version.
Battle Mode is awesome too, screw the haters. Hold the Shine and the Bomb one are great and lots of fun. The actual levels are kinda bad and seem tailored for specific modes. The Block Tower and Oval are great for the Bomb mode but nothing else. Mario's face is fun for Shine, but nothing else. The Pipe level is great for standard mode and probably the best battle map.
And co-op is great too.
Battle Mode is awesome too, screw the haters. Hold the Shine and the Bomb one are great and lots of fun. The actual levels are kinda bad and seem tailored for specific modes. The Block Tower and Oval are great for the Bomb mode but nothing else. Mario's face is fun for Shine, but nothing else. The Pipe level is great for standard mode and probably the best battle map.
And co-op is great too.
SonicMegaDrive
Member
Not really. They took all the problems I had with MK64 and amplifed them((1) Rubber-band AI, 2) it feels SLOW).
If I ever get the inclination to play a Mario Kart game, I might as well pop in the original. It still blows away all the sequels.
If I ever get the inclination to play a Mario Kart game, I might as well pop in the original. It still blows away all the sequels.
Thanks to this thread, I played 150 cc All Star Cup co-op with my little brother as gunner. It was hilarious fun. Punching opponents into a cactus in the desert was one of the funniest gaming moments ever. Also, the game has a way of creating pandemonium on the track, like 3 bananas in the way, next to a fake item box, and a red shell homing from behind, and you have to navigate it inorder to win, is just too much fun.
We only finished one race where we weren't first (Baby Park) but the game is so fun, I wish there was a 200 cc league.
We only finished one race where we weren't first (Baby Park) but the game is so fun, I wish there was a 200 cc league.
I liked it... the battle mode is really rather worthless, but the racing modes seemed very good...
... and there is no "rubber-band" AI this time around! I've tried and tried to find it, but I can't... computer karts in last place remain in last place, unlike MK64.
... and there is no "rubber-band" AI this time around! I've tried and tried to find it, but I can't... computer karts in last place remain in last place, unlike MK64.
Error Macro
Member
NexusEggy said:
Absolutely true. I almost forgave Nintendo for flushing the Mario Kart franchise down the toilet with the turd that was Mario Kart 64, because they gave us DKR. Diddy's play mechanics and courses are some of the best ever in any game.
WrathOfOtaibah
Banned
Nobody is mentioning Super Circuit, which in my opinion was the best Mario Kart out there.
I haven't played DD yet but I'm waiting until its $20 or lower, which seems to be taking its time. I can wait.
::Looks at watch::
I haven't played DD yet but I'm waiting until its $20 or lower, which seems to be taking its time. I can wait.
::Looks at watch::
Ash Housewares
The Mountain Jew
I hated it, if I wanted a racing game I'm screwed as blasting people takes total precedence over actual racing, I can lead all the way until the last 10 feet of the race and get shot 16 times in a row and finish last, and I say that as in it's happened more than once...
if I wanted to battle I'm screwed because the battle maps suck
if I wanted to battle I'm screwed because the battle maps suck
tehrik-e-insaaf
Member
Super Mario Kart was and is still the absolute best... truly skilled players were appreciated here.. the learning curve was not deep... but the time invested to skills gained reward was immense (mushroom trampolining, feather shortcuts, mushroom shortcuts, coin collecting to maintain speed and power, etc.) - this game made everyone in my family want to play games... from my father to my mother to my sister... everyone and their kid brother were excited by the gameplay mechanics
Mario Kart 64 sucked in comparison... and the battle mode was nothing special... it was more lame than anything else because of the triple red shells and the triple green shells (stand in one place, hit them, go right next to them, as they are recovering, move into them, repeat) - ALSO THE POWERSLIDES SUCK.. GIVE ME A REAL SENSE OF SPEED PLEASE INSTEAD OF THIS RIDICULOUS JOYSTICK ZIGZAG FEST
Mario Kart DD is a travesty.. (dumb 2 player gimmick, lame maps, lame weapons)
Mario Kart 64 sucked in comparison... and the battle mode was nothing special... it was more lame than anything else because of the triple red shells and the triple green shells (stand in one place, hit them, go right next to them, as they are recovering, move into them, repeat) - ALSO THE POWERSLIDES SUCK.. GIVE ME A REAL SENSE OF SPEED PLEASE INSTEAD OF THIS RIDICULOUS JOYSTICK ZIGZAG FEST
Mario Kart DD is a travesty.. (dumb 2 player gimmick, lame maps, lame weapons)