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Disturbing Christian children's recordings: "Diary of an Unborn Child"

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uh huh, only Christians fight evil (which is somewhat implied by the cover)
 
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Siamese twins joined at the back share their inspirational story in song.

I shouldn't have found that as funny as I did. :D
 

Dice

Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
What is the point of this? So some really obscure supposedly Christian thing is really messed up. I can find you obscure things from anything (including Christianity) that are more messed up.

uh huh, only Christians fight evil (which is somewhat implied by the cover)
Uhhh...

Matthew 12:30 (Jesus speaking): "He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters."

Under Christianity God is the only source of all that is good, thus anything not for Him is only furthering evil. People may fight their conception of evil, and they may be rightfully fighting evil things, but it's only repalcing one evil with another (most commonly idolatry) and so it is to the same end and a force of evil. I don't understand the problem.
 

xsarien

daedsiluap
Isn't anybody else concerned that someone possibly forced a book and a sharp object (pen/pencil) into some poor woman's vagina just so this thing could keep a diary?
 
Dice said:
Matthew 12:30 (Jesus speaking): "He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters."

Under Christianity God is the only source of all that is good, thus anything not for Him is only furthering evil. People may fight their conception of evil, and they may be rightfully fighting evil things, but it's only repalcing one evil with another (most commonly idolatry) and so it is to the same end and a force of evil. I don't understand the problem.

The problem is that it insults other traditions and religions, saying that they are inferior to Christianity. Of course, many religions do this, but this picture mentioned Christianity, so....
 

fart

Savant
haven't you ever gotten a colonoscopy? they have cameras that can fit in there with a minimum of discomfort now!
 
Hammy said:
The problem is that it insults other traditions and religions, saying that they are inferior to Christianity. Of course, many religions do this, but this picture mentioned Christianity, so....
And amongst Christians themselves you've got different opinions as well.........

Here's a cute little Happy Home series 45 telling the story of Pip Pip, a young chicken who wouldn't obey.

And ends up burning in Hell for all Eternity with Satan and all of Satan's disciples.

It's cute.
:lol At least Allah offers me 75 virgins if I do his will, what does Jesus give me? A seat at his right side? What does that mean is that some gay innuendo or something?
 

Dice

Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
If you believe there is one God then that means other gods would be evil forces trying to subvert God's rule, it is the logical conclusion of monotheism. So does that mean Christians shouldn't be allowed to believe what they believe? Then others are being intolerant of them. The issue is that people need to recognize there is a difference between tolarance of other religions and acceptance of them. Whenever others state their beliefs it is an insult to who Christians believe God is, so I don't see the problem here, especially since that stuff is specifcally made to be and presented as Christian material. To believe in something means that you don't just think it's a nice suggestion, but you really believe it is true and likewise opposing beliefs are false, and so there is a difference between political correctness and rejecting your own faith.
 
Shut up, Dice. I'm sure there are many Christians who think these recordings are very weird and amusing. They have nothing to do with the religion.
 

thefit

Member
That track rocked, its like something you would hear as an intro to a black metal bands track.

someone remix it with some hard stuff in there.
 
Dice said:
If you believe there is one God then that means other gods would be evil forces trying to subvert God's rule, it is the logical conclusion of monotheism. So does that mean Christians shouldn't be allowed to believe what they believe? Then others are being intolerant of them. The issue is that people need to recognize there is a difference between tolarance of other religions and acceptance of them. Whenever others state their beliefs it is an insult to who Christians believe God is, so I don't see the problem here, especially since that stuff is specifcally made to be and presented as Christian material. To believe in something means that you don't just think it's a nice suggestion, but you really believe it is true and likewise other beliefs are false, and so there is a difference between political correctness and rejecting your own faith.
Yes I understand what you're saying but it depends on what the definition of 'God' is depending to what Christian group they are. Some people believe in a Universal God (or whatever it's called) where they believe in the same God as the Jews and Muslims, hence they believe that they are just choosing to worship him in another way. Some groups believe that Jews and Muslims believe in a 'false\humanised' version of this God hence they are evil.
 

Nerevar

they call me "Man Gravy".
Fresh Prince said:
:lol At least Allah offers me 75 virgins if I do his will, what does Jesus give me? A seat at his right side? What does that mean is that some gay innuendo or something?


BAIL OUT

Edit: No, but he certainly offers you a helping of intolerence and ignorant stereotypes!
 
Dice said:
If you believe there is one God then that means other gods would be evil forces trying to subvert God's rule, it is the logical conclusion of monotheism. So does that mean Christians shouldn't be allowed to believe what they believe? Then others are being intolerant of them.
Didn't say that. Just expressing my own disgust at the lack of respect for other religions. People can make racist comments among themselves, but they should expect flack if word gets out.

The issue is that people need to recognize there is a difference between tolarance of other religions and acceptance of them. Whenever others state their beliefs it is an insult to who Christians believe God is, so I don't see the problem here, especially since that stuff is specifcally made to be and presented as Christian material. To believe in something means that you don't just think it's a nice suggestion, but you really believe it is true and likewise opposing beliefs are false, and so there is a difference between political correctness and rejecting your own faith.

tolerance:The capacity for or the practice of recognizing and respecting the beliefs or practices of others.
respect: 1. To feel or show deferential regard for; esteem.
2. To avoid violation of or interference with: respect the speed limit.
3. To relate or refer to; concern.

Views that are against other religions do not necessarily promote tolerance. For instance, how do missionaries tolerate other religions? At the very core, they are trying to wipe out other religions and have theirs all over the world.

Yes, I will admit that I do not know how to change these worldviews. imho, there needs to be a long term effort to modify the interpretations of religious texts to accomodate other faiths.
 

RedDwarf

Smegging smeg of a smeg!
I love Little Markie. There's a bunch of his tracks on my computer at home. If I remember to look, I'll throw them on my site for you.

If you seek more fun Christian recordings, April Winchell has quite a few, including the awesome Tammy Faye Bakker song The Ballad of Jim and Tammy and even more Little Markie with J-E-S-U-S.

Other subjects are covered as well. Don't miss the Kentucky Fried Chicken Training Tape!
 

FoneBone

Member
RedDwarf said:
Oh, god, this site is awesome. Gotta love the Gary Coleman stuff. And the "Fabio After Dark" clips with the phone sex ad music in the background.
EDIT: The TV section is awesome. Brent Spiner singing. Uhura singing the Star Trek theme, with lyrics. "Thank Heaven for Little Girls," as sung by Ed McMahon.
 

Dice

Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Hammy said:
tolerance:The capacity for or the practice of recognizing and respecting the beliefs or practices of others.
respect: 1. To feel or show deferential regard for; esteem.
2. To avoid violation of or interference with: respect the speed limit.
3. To relate or refer to; concern.

Views that are against other religions do not necessarily promote tolerance. For instance, how do missionaries tolerate other religions? At the very core, they are trying to wipe out other religions and have theirs all over the world.
That is the American Heritage dictionary, Websters seems to disagree.

tolerance
\Tol"er*ance\, n. [L. tolerantia: cf. F. tol['e]rance.] 1. The power or capacity of enduring; the act of enduring; endurance.
2. The endurance of the presence or actions of objectionable persons, or of the expression of offensive opinions; toleration.

And these differing definitions demonstrate the point I am making. Our culture is trying to change the word tolerance to mean acceptance. I believe that being tolerant means that you believe something is wrong, freely admit that you believe it is wrong, and yet you allow it to be. I don't even see how ti is possible to have any other sort of tolerance. What happens when religious beliefs start contradicting science? Would scientists then be the only ones allowed to transgress the beliefs of others by the statements of scientific reports?

Yes, I will admit that I do not know how to change these worldviews. imho, there needs to be a long term effort to modify the interpretations of religious texts to accomodate other faiths.
So by your own definition of intolerance you are the same as those you judge. Freedom doesn't come by the abolition of exclusive beliefs.
 

iapetus

Scary Euro Man
Dice said:
#Under Christianity God is the only source of all that is good, thus anything not for Him is only furthering evil. People may fight their conception of evil, and they may be rightfully fighting evil things, but it's only repalcing one evil with another (most commonly idolatry) and so it is to the same end and a force of evil. I don't understand the problem.

Might I recommend a quick look at Luke 10:30-37 for a counterexample?

Your attitude is one that a lot of people seem to share. It strikes me as somewhat amusing that you have large numbers of different groups of Christians all believing that the others will burn in hell for being the wrong sort of Christian. It's not very... christian, now, is it?
 

ShadowRed

Banned
Dice said:
What is the point of this? So some really obscure supposedly Christian thing is really messed up. I can find you obscure things from anything (including Christianity) that are more messed up.


Uhhh...

Matthew 12:30 (Jesus speaking): "He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters."

Under Christianity God is the only source of all that is good, thus anything not for Him is only furthering evil. People may fight their conception of evil, and they may be rightfully fighting evil things, but it's only repalcing one evil with another (most commonly idolatry) and so it is to the same end and a force of evil. I don't understand the problem.





Oh shit another oh of these motherfuckers.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
What happens when religious beliefs start contradicting science? Would scientists then be the only ones allowed to transgress the beliefs of others by the statements of scientific reports?
If you want to insist that the sky is neon green during the day, then that's your right.
 

Dice

Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
iapetus said:
Might I recommend a quick look at Luke 10:30-37 for a counterexample?

Your attitude is one that a lot of people seem to share. It strikes me as somewhat amusing that you have large numbers of different groups of Christians all believing that the others will burn in hell for being the wrong sort of Christian. It's not very... christian, now, is it?
Since when do actions of love towards others negate responsibility to Christ's message? How did Christ speak to the pharisees and unbelievers? What were His commandments when sending out the 72 and the great commission? What does the book of Acts show us about the active Christian faith?

I also think you are assuming a lot about my beliefs, please don't stereotype me.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
Dice: I seem to remember that Christ said to preach and convince those who would listen, not use government as a tool to force others to follow his teachings. ;)
 

Dice

Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Hitokage said:
If you want to insist that the sky is neon green during the day, then that's your right.
Exactly, others would tolerate it, but still have the right to say they think that is wrong. That is how freedom of belief and speech works. So why should the principles suddenly change when it comes to beliefs about God?

Dice: I seem to remember that Christ said to preach and convince those who would listen, not use government as a tool to force others to follow his teachings. ;)
I agree, and I don't care about politics. I see them as only reflective of any social reform that takes place.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
I agree, and I don't care about politics. I see them as only reflective of any social reform that takes place.
Oh, then I guess you were just kidding when you made that post discrediting the idea of minority rights.
 

Dice

Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Hitokage said:
Oh, then I guess you were just kidding when you made that post discrediting the idea of minority rights.
(I believe you are referring to the other thread awhile ago?) In that post I wasn't stating the way I believe things should be I was saying the way they seem to work anyways and what little ability we have to change the fact so why complain about it rather than do something constructive.
 
Dice said:
That is the American Heritage dictionary, Websters seems to disagree.

tolerance
\Tol"er*ance\, n. [L. tolerantia: cf. F. tol['e]rance.] 1. The power or capacity of enduring; the act of enduring; endurance.
2. The endurance of the presence or actions of objectionable persons, or of the expression of offensive opinions; toleration.

And these differing definitions demonstrate the point I am making. Our culture is trying to change the word tolerance to mean acceptance. I believe that being tolerant means that you believe something is wrong, freely admit that you believe it is wrong, and yet you allow it to be. I don't even see how ti is possible to have any other sort of tolerance.
Meanings of words oftentimes change over time. It's no suprise that the word "tolerance" can adopt new/different meanings.

What happens when religious beliefs start contradicting science? Would scientists then be the only ones allowed to transgress the beliefs of others by the statements of scientific reports?
If it doesnt' violate current laws (American at least), then I don't see your problem clearly.
So by your own definition of intolerance you are the same as those you judge. Freedom doesn't come by the abolition of exclusive beliefs.
Yes, there is one kind of thing I let myself be intolerant about: intolerance of other religions. It comes from painful childhood experiences of other kids degrading my religion. They acted as though my religion were inferior and thus worthy of mockery and insult.

Anyways, I'm only trying to change worldviews, not tell people they are going to Hell.
 

Zaptruder

Banned
Dice...

can I ask, if God was absolutely positively real for everyone to see... but he offered no rewards to people that followed him and no punishments for those that went against him...

what would you do?


...

In other words, you believe that it's better to take the chance to believe God for the promise of eternal paradise... if you lose it's only a finite loss right?

Well... what if the reality was there existed an anti pascalion god? One that condemned people for believing in the god commonly believed in and referred to in the bible, while rewarding the none believeers?

And how can your faith be absolutely sure that your God exists and will reward you justly? As opposed to an anti pascal god that damns you for believing in God as you do?
Also you have absolute faith in the existence and word of God. I also have absolute faith that a christian God does not exist. Does our faith cancel each other out? Then what? the majority of faith wins?
Did the majority of people believing the world was flat actually make it flat?

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pascal's wager in a simple form refers to a guy that makes the following wager...

believe in God; chance of infinite gain, finite loss.
non belief in God; finite gain, chance of infinite loss.

anti-pascalion God refers to a god that shoots down people that take pascal's wager... not just those people but everyone that believes in the god in pascal's wager (that god is the Christian God of course).
 

Chipopo

Banned
So there are two people. Both people have identical morals and follow the same ethical code. They both donate to charity. They both never lie or cheat or steal or covet. Only one of them is Christian.

The other guy is going to hell??!?
 
My two cents worth:

Concerning "forcing Christian morals/values/beliefs onto others", the Christians in this country are just doing exactly what most of you do, vote. They vote for their values, for the people who reflect their worldview the most. It's rather simple really, and believe it or not, all of you people do it as well.

You get mad at Christians for "forcing" their morals on you, but you want to turn around and do the exact same thing to them! I've seen it many times on this board, in the media, on television, and just about everywhere else.

I'm a Christian who votes according to my moral beliefs. Guess what? So does everyone else! If you all consider that "forcing" my beliefs on you or what not, then so be it, just remember though, you do the exact same thing. If I was an atheist who was pro-life and pro-traditional marriage, would you still be as hostile towards my values? Do I also not have a right in this country to express my opinions through my votes?

Practically everyone here on these boards yells for total tolerance of all opinions, except of course those of Christians. I'll be straightforward with you all though, most people here know nothing but stereotypes of Christians, and you all fall for it too.

Trust me on this, the majority of Christians are not Bible-bashing, idiotic-redfaced, anti-evolution hicks out to condemn the world to hell if they dont repent and believe.

I'll be honest with you though, when I do meet "Christians" who fit that description, I myself cringe, as they just dont seem to understand the right way to spread the message of the gospel, through patience and love. Jesus Christ could be called the one person who ever lived who was more against sin then anyone ever before, and who understood it better then anyone ever has. Yet if you ever read the four gospels, you'd never see him acting like those "Christians". In fact, what you will see is him showing genuine compassion towards the people committing sins. He never condoned sin either, no matter how big or small.

As a Christian, its a hard balance to follow. It's hard to live in this kind of world and not condone sin, and also act with compassion towards those committing it. In fact, it's hard just not to sin period.

It gets rather frustrating perusing these boards and constantly seeing Christians getting bashed. In fact, they are the only group you people on this board do not tolerate, and love to bash over and over again. Why is that? Is that not hypocrisy?

Or is it something more?

I guess, after all this bashing, I can gain some comfort from what you people do here. If I try my hardest to follow Christ and be like him as much as I can, and if I get bashed for doing so, then I must be doing something right.


1 Peter 1:15-16
"But, as the One who called you is holy, you also are to be holy in all your conduct; for it is written, Be holy, because I am holy."

Matthew 5:10-12
"Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness, because the kingdom of heaven is theirs. Blessed are you when they insult you and persecute you, and say every kind of evil against you falsely because of Me. Be glad and rejoice, because your reward is great in heaven. For that is how they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

Matthew 5:44
"But I tell you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you."

John 15:18-23
"If the world hates you, understand that it hated Me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own. However, because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, this is why the world hates you. Remember the word I spoke to you: 'A slave is not greater than his master.' If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. If they kept My word, they will also keep yours. But they will do all these things to you on account of My name, because they don't know the One who sent Me. If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have sin. Now they have no excuse for their sin. The one who hates Me also hates My Father."




If you bash Christians, you only make them stronger in their faith and reliance on God.

So while I may not like it, I still thank you all for what you have done.
 
My F*cking Grandpa said:
So there are two people. Both people have identical morals and follow the same ethical code. They both donate to charity. They both never lie or cheat or steal or covet. Only one of them is Christian.

The other guy is going to hell??!?


Grandpa:

Christianity is not about what you do, but who you believe in. It's rather very simple really. How can anyone ever please the God of the Universe, who created everything in existence, by what we do? What does God need from you? How can you ever please an infinitly holy and good God? Anyone can believe in Christ (thats what is needed, not just belief in God, but in Jesus Christ), but how many people are able to act like a saint for the rest of their lives?

I'm not going to go into the whole talk about salvation, sin, atonement, Jesus Christ, his crucifixtion, and his ressurection. Unless of course you are interested in it. If you are, PM me, or email me (Link648099@aol.com). I guess that goes for anyone else who is really curious about Christian beliefs and not just looking for an argument to start. But if you are wanting just an argument, I'll warn you now, you better know what you are talking about, because I do.

Either way, bed time now I think.
 
Cyan said:
Also, this is just silly: If you get bashed, you must be doing something right? Sorry buddy, getting bashed doesn't mean you're right or wrong, it just means other people disagree with you... vehemently.


From a Christian perspective, I'm doing something right. Whether people agree with me or not, thats their affair. That still doesn't make me wrong as long as I am tryig to be like Christ as best as I can. I'd rather be on the side of God and get bashed by man then on the side of man and get bashed by God ;)
 

fart

Savant
oh i didn't know it was so rather very simple! ok man, go to bed and sleep tight under jesus' wing! i'll keep on with the good fight of oppressing dirty homosexuals and forcibly stopping people from making responsible decisions w/rt to their pregnancies :)

(NOTE TO REASONABLE PEOPLE - I AM NOT SAYING THAT EVERYONE WHO CONSIDERS HIM OR HERSELF A CHRISTIAN BELIEVES IN THE REPRESSION OF CIVIL RIGHTS FOR THE GAY, LESBIAN, TRANSGENDERED AND/OR PREGNANT)
 
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