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[FlatBrokeNinja]

Make no mistake, lol. AMD is a cookin' somethin up.

They won't miss the boat on ai neural rendering and they are working hard right now to copy Nvidia and will do as AMD always does and offer a decent solution that isn't groundbreaking.

AMD isn't gonna miss the boat on this. I promise, lol.

Dude I'm already running neural rendering on Amd. They're late to the party.

Scene does what AMD doesn't.

Edit: Buggy beat me to it.

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Ingame:
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[RavionUHD]

New Preset C adds around ~10% more performance in my Gears of War E: Day benchmark (with DLSS 5 and L Preset DLSS).

Preset B:

Preset C:

 

[Bojji]

I'm more interested in that new FG model

 

[Caio]

I tried this update myself, and I honestly couldn't believe my eyes !

 

[nikos]

Time to finally finish Hogwarts.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Good stuff. I imagine it's one of the advantages of having such a small model in that training a new version doesn't take insane amounts of compute for weeks or months.

 

[peish]

Nvidia had the time to announce dlss5 update but did not crush the 5090 rumors, gaming gpu stack is done for

 

[Gonzito]

I tried this update myself, and I honestly couldn't believe my eyes !

 

[Luipadre]

I'm more interested in that new FG model

I tried it in dawnwalker and control. Got the same fps

 

[Spyxos]

And how is the performance, really double?

 

[BloodFree]

I tried it in dawnwalker and control. Got the same fps

Maybe they meant double with the new frame gen.

 

[Luipadre]

Maybe they meant double with the new frame gen.

I was talking about new framegen not dlss5

 

[vpance]

Hogwarts devs are so conservative with their settings compared to those first modded pics

NVIDIA DLSS 5 Hogwarts Legacy On-Off 4K Interactive Comparison

But it looks like it's still killing bloom and fog effects though

NVIDIA DLSS 5 Hogwarts Legacy On-Off 4K Interactive Comparison

 

[Moses85]

4000 Series, when?

 

[Gonzito]

4000 Series, when?

Its been available for 4000 series since almost 2 months ago

 

[nkarafo]

So instead of -50% the frame rate will be -25%?

 

[cormack12]

Without my homies who believed in the original Grace shots we wouldn't be here.

Guys we were right. All along.

 

[GymWolf]

I thought dlss5 was only usable in mod form and it wasnt an official release...

Well good news nevertheless.

Another couple of performance improvements and i'm gonna be able to use it with my 4080 without playing at 20 fps.

 

[CuteFaceJay]

inb4 we get another wave of more 5090's melting because they were pulling 800Watt via that tiny ass cable

Any chance of this coming to 30xx cards in the future?

It'll be possible via but will be rough I just been watching a guy use in on an Assasins creed game getting locked 27FPS but it's pulling 420Watts.

 

[GymWolf]

I'm so scared of my 4090 taking a very expensive shit that I still haven't messed around with this. I'll wait f9or them to keep working on it a bit.

Ummm...what? Is this thing risky for gpus? Or you are scared because 4090 can have the melting connector problem?

 

[Hustler]

Any chance of this coming to 30xx cards in the future?

 

[Gonzito]

Without my homies who believed in the original Grace shots we wouldn't be here.

Guys we were right. All along.

I believed from the beginning so I take my medal

Any chance of this coming to 30xx cards in the future?

 

[cormack12]

I believed from the beginning so I take my medal

 

[cormack12]

Any chance of this coming to 30xx cards in the future?

I wouldn't back on an official release. Nvidia are usually good for one gen behind but I'm sure there will be other mod tools that include it

 

[GymWolf]

I thought NPCs in Hogwarts Legacy were ugly enough, only the herbalist professor is at a passable level.

Bit more than passable

 

[Spyxos]

Ummm...what? Is this thing risky for gpus? Or you are scared because 4090 can have the melting connector problem?

Higher load and higher temps then usual gaming.

 

[cormack12]

Bit more than passable

I bet she tastes like wild garlic and snails

 

[Dumb Hyperbole]

What's the best all in one now, rhi, one click, something else?

 

[GymWolf]

2 truths and a lie.

IMO, something looks a little off when using DLSS 5.
I am jealous I do not have a card that can take full advantage of DLSS 5.
I have a 12" dong.

Wow usb dongles are getting huge.

Is it a fire stick?

 

[GymWolf]

I bet she tastes like wild garlic and snails

I like garlic and snails pretty much smell of nothing

 

[Sticks]

Can somebody make a DLSS5 thread instead of filling OT's with those bullshots Gonzito

 

[KyoZz]

I'm so scared of my 4090 taking a very expensive shit that I still haven't messed around with this. I'll wait for them to keep working on it a bit.

I'm using a 4090 Gigabyte Gaming OC and DLSS5 is flawless, connected with the same stock cable and I have it since it's release. Played the most demanding games and some with heavy mods, don't know which model you have but if you never had any issue you should give it a try. Undervolt it if you are really cautious but this melting problem is way overblown.

 

[GymWolf]

I'm more interested in that new FG model

Can i use it with dlss swapper?

I dont remember an option to change framegen model, like i can upgrade the version but i dont remember if i can chose a letter profile for it.

 

[Trunx81]

I like garlic and snails pretty much smell of nothing

she probably has a green hairy pott, though.

 

[GymWolf]

Higher load and higher temps then usual gaming.

Is it a probpem even if you have an extremely fresh case and the ac turned on to chill the room?

 

[StereoVsn]

Its out

What tool is this? Figure it's finally time to try it.

 

[GymWolf]

she probably has a green hairy pott, though.

Gonna use the backdoor then.

 

[FalconPunch]

Based on the youtube thumbnail, the base fps when not using 6x fg is 52 fps on a 5080. Keep in mind that they're also using super resolution at performance. That's 1080p at 52 fps for a sports game. Trash.

 

[pepeno]

Probably now using NVFP4 data format.
And it will probably also block older RTX cards and non nvidia GPUs.

yeah, only rtx5000 series has fp4 support and double the fps very much so means going from fp8 to fp4.

 

[Sanepar]

Its been available for 4000 series since almost 2 months ago

What? How?

 

[Black_Stride]

It doesn't work on 4000 series...

4000 Series, when?

I thought NPCs in Hogwarts Legacy were ugly enough, only the herbalist professor is at a passable level.

One of the early screenshots I saw od DLSS5 in action that shocked me.

 

[winjer]

yeah, only rtx5000 series has fp4 support and double the fps very much so means going from fp8 to fp4.

Not just FP4. NVFP4.

 

[Trunx81]

Gonna use the backdoor then.

DLASS 5

 

[DeaconOfTheDank]

Probably now using NVFP4 data format.
And it will probably also block older RTX cards and non nvidia GPUs.

Performance gains at least will probably be locked to 50-series since hardware support for NVFP4 exists. Older RTX cards support it on software level via emulation, but likely wouldn't see any of the benefits.

Still waiting for confirmation on where the performance gains came from (probably will hear unofficial news soon from reverse-engineering DLLs), but if this ends up being the case then I wouldn't be surprised.

Current model is using FP8 precision for weights which is supported by both 40 and 50-series GPUs. I have a feeling they're focused on training a model with FP4 to optimize/reduce cost even further, but making up for the loss in precision hasn't yielded acceptable results yet. In the latter case, FP4 is only supported by 50-series at the hardware level but can be emulated in older gen. Would make sense that they don't want to deal with that can of worms since it locks future performance gains to 50-series only. Imo tho, having support on older gen hardware but with a huge hit to performance would be fine since at least consumers wouldn't be blatantly restricted from using the feature. On the other hand, folks might just complain and spin up a narrative that DLSS5 isn't worth the performance cost when in reality they just don't have right hardware-level support.

Kinda like the situation with DLSS4.5 second-gen transformer models - only makes sense to use on 50 and 40-series cards from a performance standpoint.

 

[Gonzito]

What? How?

Though modding. Shortfuse for example

 

[memoryman3]

Amd:

If AMD were wise they wouldn't bother. Just focus on extracting the maximum value in respect to Price and Shader/RT Performance Per Watt, whilst delivering high quality drivers.

 

[Three]

And how is the performance, really double?

Not really. Not in terms of fps anyway that people seem to be conflating it with.

 

[Gonzito]

What tool is this? Figure it's finally time to try it.

RHI the best tool imo

 

[geary]

Performance gains at least will probably be locked to 50-series since hardware support for NVFP4 exists. Older RTX cards support it on software level via emulation, but likely wouldn't see any of the benefits.

Still waiting for confirmation on where the performance gains came from (probably will hear unofficial news soon from reverse-engineering DLLs), but if this ends up being the case then I wouldn't be surprised.

They said they wont have it official on older cards untill they have stabilized on 5000 series. Then they work on 4000 series

 

[Bojji]

Can i use it with dlss swapper?

I dont remember an option to change framegen model, like i can upgrade the version but i dont remember if i can chose a letter profile for it.

Swapper will probably get update to support this.