Wuthering_Heights
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Since DVD came out, I've never watched any extras.
Just give me the movie, couldn't care less about anything else.
Just give me the movie, couldn't care less about anything else.
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Do people still care about DVD extras?
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Look at the DVD special features of HKL dvds:
Police Story said:
Project A said:
Naked Weapon said:
This was an independent publisher. What's your excuse Disney?
In the case of LOTR, the guys documenting the production weren't filming in higher than DVD quality, so there'd be nothing gained from putting them on BRD anyway.
Nemesis121
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I love gag reels, get to see all the fuck ups...
Those all take space.
From the TFA box, the DVD has English, French and Spanish 5.1, English 2.0 descriptive audio, plus subtitles.
Keeping extras off allows for a higher bitrate encode. It's a trade off. Do you want a better quality film? Or do you want a lower quality encode, but plenty of extras?
I could probably watch Blade Runner's commentaries and documentaries all day, which is funny since I think the movie is kinda boring. I loved the SFdebris, Nostalgia Critic and a few other people's retrospectives despite not being a fan of the movie. I think commentaries should be done for film archival purposes.
GodParticle
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Commentary and making of documentaries are my only reason for owning a DVD
i want a second disc
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
I wouldn't mind it not being on the disk that much, but i love those kind of features so they better make them available somehow.
PhantomZone
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I used to love extras and would only buy movies that had ENOUGH extras on them (not just dvd commentaries) that were equal to or longer than the length of the movie itself. Then it felt like buying the dvd had a lot more value to it.
Today though I don't watch every extra for every film that I buy, I rarely even listen to the commentaries.... but they are there in case I ever want to and that's nice to know.
Today though I don't watch every extra for every film that I buy, I rarely even listen to the commentaries.... but they are there in case I ever want to and that's nice to know.
I always check to see what features are available on a blu ray, and it does make a difference. If I'm on the fence about whether or not to make the purchase, a lot of interesting-sounding extras can push me into the buy and none will usually hold me back.
Commentaries are the main feature I really care about. I always give them a listen, and a great commentary pretty much doubles the replay value of the film for me. Commentaries that are just "oh they were so great, this scene is so great, all the actors and crew are great" are death though.
Commentaries are the main feature I really care about. I always give them a listen, and a great commentary pretty much doubles the replay value of the film for me. Commentaries that are just "oh they were so great, this scene is so great, all the actors and crew are great" are death though.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Netflix has pretty much proved people only give a shit about the movie.
I think the fact over 10 years of DVD saturation proving that 9/10ths of all extras are watch-once fluff at best helped push people to that point, too.
If you're not gonna put real time and effort into your extras, they're just bullet points on the back of the box to make it look like you're getting more bang for your buck. they're the entertainment equivalent of styrofoam peanuts. You can make a package look big as hell you pack enough peanuts into the box, yunno? That list of bullet points appeals to people who care almost as much about the perception of "deals" as they do the movie they're supposed to be wtaching.
I'll take a documentary from producers like David Prior and Charlie De Lauzirika, over any other extra. Film commentaries used to be interesting, but that's when they were being recorded long after the film had been produced, and the commentaries had time/energy poured into them, with moderation steering the discussion to specific points, multiple takes, and the presence of serious hindsight adding to the value of the words being recorded.
Now commentaries are slapdash two-take affairs at best done in a single afternoon while the movie is still in post. So the commentaries end up sounding samey, because there's no perspective but "this is how we want it to play, we hope it plays like that." The good ones in that vein don't even stay scene specific for long, so you might as well just consider it a podcast that just happens to refer to a movie playing in the background.
I will buy the barebones edition of a blu-ray in a heartbeat, so long as the encode on the film is good. Because that's all that matters. If I find out that the extras are taking up space that could have been used to improve the transfer? I get a little disappointed. Usually that doesn't happen, though.
I think the fact over 10 years of DVD saturation proving that 9/10ths of all extras are watch-once fluff at best helped push people to that point, too.
If you're not gonna put real time and effort into your extras, they're just bullet points on the back of the box to make it look like you're getting more bang for your buck. they're the entertainment equivalent of styrofoam peanuts. You can make a package look big as hell you pack enough peanuts into the box, yunno? That list of bullet points appeals to people who care almost as much about the perception of "deals" as they do the movie they're supposed to be wtaching.
I'll take a documentary from producers like David Prior and Charlie De Lauzirika, over any other extra. Film commentaries used to be interesting, but that's when they were being recorded long after the film had been produced, and the commentaries had time/energy poured into them, with moderation steering the discussion to specific points, multiple takes, and the presence of serious hindsight adding to the value of the words being recorded.
Now commentaries are slapdash two-take affairs at best done in a single afternoon while the movie is still in post. So the commentaries end up sounding samey, because there's no perspective but "this is how we want it to play, we hope it plays like that." The good ones in that vein don't even stay scene specific for long, so you might as well just consider it a podcast that just happens to refer to a movie playing in the background.
I will buy the barebones edition of a blu-ray in a heartbeat, so long as the encode on the film is good. Because that's all that matters. If I find out that the extras are taking up space that could have been used to improve the transfer? I get a little disappointed. Usually that doesn't happen, though.
Those are by far the worst imo. Also the hindsight can only be added with time. Of course films pre-DVD are going to have more hindsight so its not fair to compare those two things.
I just recently rewatched the 2002 Ben Affleck movie The Sum of all Fears with the DVD commentary.
The movie was trashed by critics when it came out but it's one of those guilty pleasures of mine.
Anyway, the commentary is by the director and Tom Clancy himself and it's fucking amazing.
Clancy clearly doesn't want to be there and is slightly racist/sexist so it's a bit awkward but at the same time he keep telling great CIA and Pentagon stories and anecdotes. A ton of "Oh yeah, I've been to that place" everytime they introduce a new cia/pentagon location.
It's fucking great.
The movie was trashed by critics when it came out but it's one of those guilty pleasures of mine.
Anyway, the commentary is by the director and Tom Clancy himself and it's fucking amazing.
Clancy clearly doesn't want to be there and is slightly racist/sexist so it's a bit awkward but at the same time he keep telling great CIA and Pentagon stories and anecdotes. A ton of "Oh yeah, I've been to that place" everytime they introduce a new cia/pentagon location.
It's fucking great.
Yes, I love them, and watch them all 
I especially love when they come with several discs of extra material and plenty of in-depth documentaries, like the LotR and Hobbit EEs, Nolan movies, PotC, Avatar SE, Titanic, Jurassic Park trilogy, earlier MCU movies, etc.
I especially love when they come with several discs of extra material and plenty of in-depth documentaries, like the LotR and Hobbit EEs, Nolan movies, PotC, Avatar SE, Titanic, Jurassic Park trilogy, earlier MCU movies, etc.
This is the truth, the EE's extras are nothing short of amazing (and some truly hilarious). The fact that The Hobbit EEs' appendices are a continuation of the LotR EEs' is a nice touch.
Iron Man 2 comes to mind, had a great 2 hour long making-of documentary.
Yes they are, but they were shot at DVD quality anyway so nothing is lost really
ZombieSupaStar
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What was the movie where Arnold sounds high as fuck on the commentary track? Conan?
Also the LOTR Extras are INSANE, Hobbits also.
Ive watched them so many times....
Orlando: "Now every time I see him.... I see the white light....."
lol
Also the LOTR Extras are INSANE, Hobbits also.
Ive watched them so many times....
Orlando: "Now every time I see him.... I see the white light....."
lol
sixteen-bit
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I'm just tryna netflix and chill
Septimus Prime
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I usually watch all of the extras, except for the commentary track. I don't really consider the disc watched until I get through all of that.
WoolyNinja
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Gag reals and outtakes - that's all I watch
Yep, I quite like having extra content included. Deleted scenes, making of, commentary etc. It can be the deciding point if I even buy the blu ray at all. On that note, it would be cool to eventually get some version of Back To The Future that includes the footage of Eric Stoltz as Marty Mcfly. Would be kinda cool to see how much of an impact the change made on the final product.
beyond_death
Member
I mostly dont give a shit about deleted scenes or bloopers. I like commentary, making-of stuff and documentaries.
Merriweather
Member
People still care about them, but the outrage that comes when special features are broken up among retailers or absent altogether is overdone because, sadly, most DVD/Blu-ray special features are junk these days.
ZombieSupaStar
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Yeah, I love them. I grew up watching them and the Jurassic Park and Star Wars behind-the-scenes extras are what got me really interested in the film-making process. I know a lot of people don't care about that anymore, but it's the main reason I still pick up Blu-Rays now (beyond the movie looking good on blu-ray). If I only cared for the movie itself I'd just own it all digitally. I loved the King Kong Extended edition for all it's extra-goodness.
DontBeThatGuy
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Yes, I do care about audio commentaries, making of's, interviews, etc... I'd like it if the incentive to keep doing that remains.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Commentaries that are well-edited with no blank spots, no filler, and really fun/interesting observations that flow just as solidly as the movie it's accompanying are "the worst?"
As opposed to one-take ramblefests where semi-bored participants are just looking for lazy one-liners to fire off between drinks?
They were always mostly junk.
There is no way a digital-only version of a film is going to hang with a blu-ray in terms of audio/video quality. It hasn't happened yet.
Death Metalist
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Yes I always do, last one I watched was Shout's release of Army of Darkness.
It's incredible, as enjoyable as the movie itself.
It's incredible, as enjoyable as the movie itself.
I like it when its different people watching a movie together they worked on, had fun and act like normal people while taking about the making of the movie.
As opposed people going through notes trying to find something interesting about each scene and coming off like they are acting during the commentaries, that "now, when I say this you say this" feeling, while everbody is getting frustrated at how long its taking.
See, I can play this game just like you.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
The number of those that go right is woefully small compared to the ones that are just listless and annoying.
Kevin Smith is both the best and simultaneously the worst thing to happen to the film commentary, primarily because he's good at just rambling and making it entertaining, and a lot of people who attempt that are not. Also: This isn't really an either/or thing. What I'm saying is that most commentaries are boring and lame, and not worth the time to record or to listen to, and the ones that ARE good tend to be the ones that have distance and perspective, and time and thought put into them.
Basically, much like filmmaking itself, the extras are only as good as the effort being put into them. Fluff EPK bullshit, one-take commentaries being done during a break in post-production, and 15 minutes of deleted scenes aren't anywhere near as interesting or worthwhile as an entertaining, informative commentary track, and a well-produced behind the scenes documentary.
I'm not "playing a game," I'm explaining myself and asking you to do the same. You keep trying to highlight how important to you it is that people not really plan for what's going to come out of their mouth and I think more often than not that shit is lazy and tiresome. Not everyone is John Carpenter and Kurt Russell. Not everyone is Kevin Smith. Hell, not even Kevin Smith is Kevin Smith: That commentary he and Mosier did for Road House is ass. People who aren't great at extemporaneous speaking need help, and notes, and direction, and editing, just like any other actor would.
There's nothing wrong with that.
Messofanego
Banned
Observe and Report's is basically this, plus it's picture-in-picture so you can see them having fun watching the film. For such a dark comedy, it's a nice contrast especially with Anna Faris and Rogen goofing around.
Right winger with slightly bigoted views, not even surprised at Clancy
Subpar Spatula
Banned
I've never watched any kind of movie extra and I can't name someone I know who has.
To each their own I suppose.
To each their own I suppose.
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