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Do you think the Sequel Trilogy should be decanonized?

Decanonize the ST?

  • Yes

    Votes: 180 84.5%
  • No

    Votes: 8 3.8%
  • Not fully, but deemphasize it

    Votes: 18 8.5%
  • Unsure

    Votes: 7 3.3%

  • Total voters
    213
Yes but I think most of it should be decanonized

Keep Rogue One, Andor, Skeleton Crew, Book of Boba Fett and The Mandolorian, those are the only stuff I enjoyed from Disney Star Wars outside of thier animated efforts. We shall see how The Mandolorian And Grogu does but everything I seen of it made me more positive on it
I'm watching Skeleton Crew right now. I think I'm on the 3rd or 4th episode and I'm finding it kind of mid. I found Ahsoka better.

I think de-canonize all of it and just canonize Legends. I had an idea how they could do this by messing around in the World Between Worlds and just going to an alternate universe or timeline where all the old EU shit is back or at least most of it. Definitely, definitely canonize both KOTOR games.
 
Rogue One honestly isn't as good as people make it out to be. If you watch Rogue One immediately after Andor, the difference in quality (especially the dialogue) is pretty stark. It has a pretty good third act, but that's it.

It's also hard to watch Rogue One these days and not see Cassian as the real protagonist.

I watched Rogue One after Andor as well and yeah, the change is stark and honestly it wasn't worth watching. It was pretty bad with the MCU humour and goofy blind guy. Had to watch the original trilogy after as a chaser. I probably won't bother with Star Wars any more though if they make the theatrical versions available, I would rewatch. Lucas added in some really silly CGI to the original trilogy that bugged me on the rewatch.
 
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Star Wars announced their 2027 event

Here's the art.

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That could be a good sign imo(Han Solo is missing though)
 
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Canonize all of the extended universe, un-canonize the new trilogy.

Really, it's not like Disney/ Lucas Arts is going to undo the 'cannon' that is already there. They may as well just work with what they have and try and course correct things.
 
Canonize all of the extended universe, un-canonize the new trilogy.

Really, it's not like Disney/ Lucas Arts is going to undo the 'cannon' that is already there. They may as well just work with what they have and try and course correct things.
If you go to YouTube and watch lore videos, it's always about the the Legends.
 
I remember feeling like everyone had lost their minds back when even episode 7 came out. It was clear that Disney had no good idea about the direction to take the franchise and people will clap for nostalgia for only so long.
 
Rian Johnson ruined Star Wars, Hamil tried to warn him. The execs at Disney thought he wrote an amazing SW movie, but all he did was write a lecture about the rich and powerful while being a rich guy himself. They have no self awareness.
 
Yes. The whole premise was dumb. We should have seen a gradual decline of the empire (like you see in the manodlorian).

Instead of hey the empire is back while copying the plot from the original trilogy. Was super lazy.
 
Start with a slice of life show of Luke training his grandkids and the next line of jedis just to get the real Hamil in. They can then work forwards and backwards from there.
 
I'm watching Skeleton Crew right now. I think I'm on the 3rd or 4th episode and I'm finding it kind of mid. I found Ahsoka better.

I think de-canonize all of it and just canonize Legends. I had an idea how they could do this by messing around in the World Between Worlds and just going to an alternate universe or timeline where all the old EU shit is back or at least most of it. Definitely, definitely canonize both KOTOR games.
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As someone who doesn't really give two shits about SW one way or the other: make more stuff like Andor. I don't think it's very surprising at all that when the franchise finally tried on some big boy pants and delivered a gripping and grounded narrative with relatable characters and plausible drama, the result really resonated.
 
I always found it funny that when Disney bought the IP, people were super excited due to everyone hating the Prequels at the time. Now almost ten years have passed for the Sequel Trilogy and I hardly see anyone praise the films, they are still shit. I have always hated The Farce Awakens

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I don't hate everything that is Disney Star Wars since there has a couple of things I have loved but I miss the Star Wars when Lucas was in control of. I really loved the direction and how unique the OT, PT and The Clone Wars are especially in setting. And I like that he tend to take risks. As I said before I might like Disney Star Wars but I feel lot of the stuff is just super safe. I did like Maul Shadow Lord when it comes to recent Star Wars. We shall see on that Mandolarian and Grogu movie

Edit - But I found it really funny how they are just aiming Star Wars at everyone in the fanbase not only the OT Crowd but the PT Crowd. As someone who love both but prefer the PT, I remember how Disney was fine with the marketing of The Force Awakens shitting on anything Prequel. I know lot of PT fans who refuse to watch anything of Disney Star Wars due to this. So I think the pandering to PT fans now is rather hypocritical of them too
 
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I don't hate everything that is Disney Star Wars since there has a couple of things I have loved but I miss the Star Wars when Lucas was in control of. I really loved the direction and how unique the OT, PT and The Clone Wars are especially in setting. And I like that he tend to take risks. As I said before I might like Disney Star Wars but I feel lot of the stuff is just super safe.

The Force Awakens is the definition of "safe." Yet, to Disney's credit, it needed to be. Four billion dollars later, the company couldn't afford to take a risk. General audience consensus at the time, as far as I remember, was: "OK. This is Star Wars. It's back. Let's see where this goes."

Unfortunately, given the subsequent "Episode" films - and some of the series - it didn't go to places we wished to visit.

As to what came before:

The prequels are still a mixed bag - to me, at least. I rewatch Phantom Menace hoping to, via new perspective, eventually realize its quality (I have a bin of movies I've seen too many times, given this same approach...Tenet, The Counselor, Miami Vice, etc.). I haven't gotten there, yet. Episode 1 is not great.

Obviously, just my opinion, but: Episode 2 is indefensible - it's a terrible film, despite the inclusion of a few good sequences/ideas. Episode 3: It gets a better reputation than it deserves due to finally depicting Anakin's transformation.

Point being: "The prequel trilogy isn't THAT BAD" is not a solid precedent and should not result in some expectation in terms of holding the sequel trilogy to some impossible standard.

I'm rambling, but the Disney Episode films are not some heinous crime against humanity. They're not good, granted. They can easily be forgotten.

I'm not necessarily happy, overall, with Disney's approach to this universe, but Rogue One is "taking a risk." Solo is "taking a risk" (I like that film, admittedly). Andor is probably the biggest risk. Mandalorian, as a series, is a risk. Aside: The film sequel to it (Mandalorian) is most definitely "safe," though, "safe," only from a content perspective. The film will most likely under-perform and result in the usual, "See! Disney Star Wars sucks!"-bit, regardless of whether or not the movie is any good. I'm not defending Disney, necessarily, but this idea (which is most definitely retrospective), "Lucas never did anything wrong" - is false.

Lucas, himself, sacrificed great storytelling for film tech in the late 90s/early 2000s. Episodes 1-3 are severely lacking, as compared to the original trilogy (again, obviously, my opinion). The narratives are weak and the acting (a lot of it) is atrocious. George gets some new toys and plays with them. Fox pays for it. Dick Jones exclaims: "Spare parts for twenty-five years! Who cares if it worked or not!"

I don't blame him (Lucas). He is, all said and done, one of our great filmmakers. He deserved to do whatever he wanted to do. This does not mean he is above criticism and does not imply he would have made something amazing had he still had creative control over episodes 7-9.

Disney also bought a new toy...an expensive one. They've done some good things with it...and some bad. Let's not get too bent out-of-shape over it. Shouting, "Decanonize! Decanonize!," ain't gonna do nothin.'

Some people do like TLJ. I don't understand those people, but some do! 😂
Funny bit, this. After seeing the film for the first time...well, I didn't really know how to react to it, though I didn't hate it. I ultimately settled on: "Well, it's neat they're trying to do something unique and I'm intrigued by Kylo Ren's attempted alliance with Rey. They killed Snoke, too! Donald Glover: 'Good.' (that character fucking sucked)"

After subsequent viewings, I'm of the mind: there is too much to forgive and, the film: not great.

To the thread's proposition: Han is dead, Leia is dead, Luke is...mostly dead. These things needed to happen, so, let it be and hopefully new creatives will actually conjure new, entertaining stories.

...because, practically, this shit (what has come before) is always going to be canon and the focus should, alternatively, be: "How does this get better?," given the immutable existence of Mouse House's "contributions."
 
I think I might put The Last Jedi as the fastest I've ever hated a movie in the cinema.

The opening skit, and it was a fucking skit, with the phone call/yo mamma thing between Po and the enemy ship (can't remember what the stand in Empire were called now). Anyway, I just sat there thinking what the fuck is happening. What is this shit. Then for the rest of the movie I just found myself getting more and more pissed with it all.

I've watched shit movies in the cinema before, but I just don't think any have ever hit me so fast with their shitness.
 
The opening skit, and it was a fucking skit, with the phone call/yo mamma thing between Po and the enemy ship (can't remember what the stand in Empire were called now). Anyway, I just sat there thinking what the fuck is happening. What is this shit.
Oof. I had put that bit out of memory. Poncho: "Do you remember Afghanistan?"
 
It already is in my head. Honestly I decanonized the prequel trilogy too. Star Wars is just 3 awesome old school sci-fi movies. How cool would it be if they made a new one? Frankly I don't think the prequel trilogy gets enough hate, but it's leagues better than the new trilogy.
 
I want a trilogy of movies set shortly after Return of the Jedi that explores Han adjusting to a life where he has gone from smuggler to a war hero dating a princess, and explores Leia's role as a leader in the rebel movement following Palpatine's death and explores Luke's mission to rebuild the Jedi.

But if all three are doomed to reach where the sequel trilogy took them, what's the point?
 
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