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Doesn't The X-Box 360 Play and Charge Kit Make It...

BojTrek

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Doesn't this just make the "wireless" controller a "wired" controller?

I am trying to get the "full" system with the 1-"wireless" controller... but all my additional controllers will be "wired".

Is anyone one else doing this? Getting the free "wireless" and going all "wired" on additional purchases?
 
Uhh...you do realize that's just a charge cord right? Yea you can play it, while it's charging. If that's the case you could consider my PSP and DS "wired" because they have cords for charging and I can play them while they are charging too :lol
 
Serious question, does that thing hook back into the X-Box 360 or the wall outlet?

And if it does connect to the X-Box 360, do you have to have the power ON for it to charge?

This system confuses the crap out of me... I cannot wait to have the damn system in my hands in 41 days...

Sick day coming for me and a buddy at work... I will drop off the kids at the baby-sitter and search all Targets, Wal-Marts, Best Buys and Circuit City's until I find a "full" blown system!
 
BojTrek said:
Serious question, does that thing hook back into the X-Box 360 or the wall outlet?

And if it does connect to the X-Box 360, do you have to have the power ON for it to charge?

This system confuses the crap out of me... I cannot wait to have the damn system in my hands in 41 days...

Sick day coming for me and a buddy at work... I will drop off the kids at the baby-sitter and search all Targets, Wal-Marts, Best Buys and Circuit City's until I find a "full" blown system!

The coord plugs into the system so that you do not have to lose any playing time while charging it up. It will recharge while you play.
 
im getting the play and charge kit and one other wired controller. i thought about going wireless for the second one, but i dont care if my buddies get to use a wireless controller or not. that and im planning on using it as a pc controller as well. ill prolly break down and get another wireless controller a couple months after launch though
 
BojTrek said:
Serious question, does that thing hook back into the X-Box 360 or the wall outlet?

To the 360, obviously... How else would you play it while it was charging?

And if it does connect to the X-Box 360, do you have to have the power ON for it to charge?

I highly doubt it... It probably has a "soft" power off or sleep mode where it can charge while the console's not displaying on your screen. That's just speculation though.
 
The wireless controllers are $10 more... why would you ever get a wired controller? You can use 1 play and charge kit... I suppose heh and get a second later on at some point...
 
BojTrek said:
Serious question, does that thing hook back into the X-Box 360 or the wall outlet?

And if it does connect to the X-Box 360, do you have to have the power ON for it to charge?

This system confuses the crap out of me... I cannot wait to have the damn system in my hands in 41 days...

Sick day coming for me and a buddy at work... I will drop off the kids at the baby-sitter and search all Targets, Wal-Marts, Best Buys and Circuit City's until I find a "full" blown system!

It's just a USB cable connection for the controllers, like an iPod or others it charges through the USB cable. And you know that's a good question on if it charges while it's off or not. It should I suppose.

BojTrek said:
With its wireless feature... HELLO! ;)

Holy cow dude, nevermind.

Take a minute of your life and mediatate exactly on why you couldn't play your game WIRELESS on your WIRELESS controller if your controller needs to CHARGE, just think about it. I'm sure sooner or later you will put two and two together.
 
Asked this before, but never really got a clear answer. I know the wired Xbox controller can be used with a Windows PC, but can the wireless controller, with the Play and Charge kit cable, be used with a PC as well? Anyone know if it will charge?
 
Kung Fu Jedi said:
Asked this before, but never really got a clear answer. I know the wired Xbox controller can be used with a Windows PC, but can the wireless controller, with the Play and Charge kit cable, be used with a PC as well? Anyone know if it will charge?

Yes and yes.
 
Wireless controllers rock... I can keep them in the cubby hole in my coffee table and allways have them ready to go.. without wires cluttering up my living room.
 
Kung Fu Jedi said:
Asked this before, but never really got a clear answer. I know the wired Xbox controller can be used with a Windows PC, but can the wireless controller, with the Play and Charge kit cable, be used with a PC as well? Anyone know if it will charge?

The same way I can "play and charge" my PSP when the battery has just flattened I'd guess :P

I'd assume the wireless controllers would act the same, hence the name "play & charge", rather than sit-and-wait-2-hours-to-charge-and-THEN-play :P
 
actually, i wonder if the play and charge kit actually makes it a wired controller...

or if it just supplies power to the controller while still sending data wirelessly...

that would make it not work on PC's at all...

something to think about...
 
The Faceless Master said:
it comes with a rechargeable battery pack

Thank Christ. If it didn't I may have cancelled my purchase. The nickel and diming is outrageous (even with the premium pack).
 
Ponn01 said:
Take a minute of your life and mediatate exactly on why you couldn't play your game WIRELESS on your WIRELESS controller if your controller needs to CHARGE, just think about it. I'm sure sooner or later you will put two and two together.

Take a minute of yours to meditate on exactly where, other than its out-of-charge battery, your wireless controller might be able to draw power from while PLUGGED INTO A POWER SOCKET to enable it to operate wirelessly. It'll come to you eventually.
 
Kewk said:
Yes and yes.
thought it was no and yes, aka the usb is solely for power and nothing else. the controller would still be communicating through its wireless protocol (which would make the cable->outlet thing be feasible if anyone actually bothered to make something like that).
 
iapetus said:
Take a minute of yours to meditate on exactly where, other than its out-of-charge battery, your wireless controller might be able to draw power from while PLUGGED INTO A POWER SOCKET to enable it to operate wirelessly. It'll come to you eventually.

It doesn't hook into a power socket. Do you see a power socket plug? I see a usb cable, what exactly do you see?

japtor said:
thought it was no and yes, aka the usb is solely for power and nothing else. the controller would still be communicating through its wireless protocol (which would make the cable->outlet thing be feasible if anyone actually bothered to make something like that).

Does anyone have anything hard that it still transmits wirelessly while charging? Sure they could add that functionality but the controller would charge quicker if they kept it disabled while charging. Plus, it just doesn't make sense to keep that functionality turned on while it's plugged into the 360.
 
Ponn01 said:
Does anyone have anything hard that it still transmits wirelessly while charging? Sure they could add that functionality but the controller would charge quicker if they kept it disabled while charging. Plus, it just doesn't make sense to keep that functionality turned on while it's plugged into the 360.
well, seeing as it would cost less to just draw power while plugged in and still work wirelessly instead of wired (less circuitry) and microsoft's current trend of skimming on .. well .. everything x360 related .. i wouldn't bet against it just drawing power and still working wirelessly
 
Yes, what I think the original poster and some other people have been asking is if, when plugged into the P&C kit, the controller sends button data back and forth via the USB cable instead of via it's normal wireless communication.

This would, in effect, give the wireless controller the functionality of being "wired", because you'd then be able to plug the USB cable into your PC and play games with it as if it were the stock $40 wired controller.

It's a question that I've asked before and didn't get an answer to. Does using the P&C kit give you this functionality? I doubt it, but I'd like to hope.
 
japtor said:
thought it was no and yes, aka the usb is solely for power and nothing else. the controller would still be communicating through its wireless protocol (which would make the cable->outlet thing be feasible if anyone actually bothered to make something like that).


When connected via USB it does not use wireless. It works just like a standard wired controller.
 
So, my question is... can you have the XBox 360 turned off and not be playing and let it charge using the Play & Charge as long as the XBox 360 is plugged in ala Macs and charging iPods?
 
segatavis said:

I phrased it the wrong way, I am really bitching about the overall higher prices for the console and games, coupled with this thing (I consider it essential with a wireless controller). I honestly think it (a cable at least) should be included with the console.
 
shantyman said:
I phrased it the wrong way, I am really bitching about the overall higher prices for the console and games, coupled with this thing (I consider it essential with a wireless controller). I honestly think it (a cable at least) should be included with the console.

Yah, I can see where you're coming from with the higher priced accessories, but in my opinion the Play and Charge Kit is an awesome added accessory, and reasonably priced. The wireless Logitech Xbox controller that retails for $50 does not come with a play and charge kit, the Wavebird does not come with a play and charge kit. Microsoft has provided an alternative to buying separate rechargeable batteries and chargers. There's even a "battery fuel gauge" through the Xbox 360 dashboard. Anyway, I don't mean to argue, but I feel out of all the accessories at Xbox 360 launch, this one is the most appropriately priced.
 
The Faceless Master said:
*reads tag*

cool, thaks for resolving this issue

does it get detected by WinXP when plugged into a USB port?

Read somewhere you'd need to download the drivers.
 
The wireless controller doesn't work with the PC, the play and charge kit doesn't plug into a standard USB port.
 
Vennt said:
The same way I can "play and charge" my PSP when the battery has just flattened I'd guess :P

I'd assume the wireless controllers would act the same, hence the name "play & charge", rather than sit-and-wait-2-hours-to-charge-and-THEN-play :P

What the fuck are you talking about here? I know how the PSP and the Xbox 360 controllers charage. I didn't even ask about that. I was asking about it's compatibility with the PC and it's ability to charge via a PC's USB port. Shut the fuck up and read someone's post sometime.
 
Schafer said:
The wireless controller doesn't work with the PC, the play and charge kit doesn't plug into a standard USB port.

There's nothing BUT standard USB ports for it to plug into on the 360.
 
nobody knows
almost certainly not though

perhaps if the system has a suspend/sleep/OMG LED IS STILL ON COOL mode
 
it *should* recharge when the power is off, considering the system is really in a 'sleep' mode, and you can turn it on with a wireless controller, so obviously power is being used...
 
Schafer said:
The wireless controller doesn't work with the PC, the play and charge kit doesn't plug into a standard USB port.

Yes, it does.

bitwise said:
so..

nobody knows if the controller recharges when the console is powered off?

It does not charge with the system off as far as I can tell. All controller LED's are off implying that it is not receiving a charge. You know for sure that it is being charged when the system is on by the color of the LED.
 
How do you charge the wireless controller that you get with the premium pack? Or do you have to buy regular batteries? Will I have to charge my controller before I can use it on launch day?
 
DenogginizerOS said:
How do you charge the wireless controller that you get with the premium pack? Or do you have to buy regular batteries? Will I have to charge my controller before I can use it on launch day?


ehh dont kill me here if im wrong but I think it comes with 2 batteries.
 
DenogginizerOS said:
How do you charge the wireless controller that you get with the premium pack? Or do you have to buy regular batteries? Will I have to charge my controller before I can use it on launch day?

Hahah! I never thought of that!

Most things that come with "rechargeable" batteries have to be charged before initial usage.

Unless they include regular batteries along with the battery pack, be prepared to have to charge the battery pack.
 
Funnily enough, that's the main thing I've been wondering about.

If the battery packs don't come pre-charged, I'm going to have to pick up som AA's for the evening of the 19th.
 
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