why can't i read these changes as anything other than 'make the entire game better for lycan'
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why can't i read these changes as anything other than 'make the entire game better for lycan'
Shuggananas
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Level 3 boots of travel would be fun too, TP anywhere you have vision (effect is lost if you lose vision while channeling)
Also make moon shard retain the night vision bonus when consumed
Also make moon shard retain the night vision bonus when consumed
I've had this idea in my mind for a long time (2+ years) and I think it would revolutionize the game, can't say for sure if it would be better or worse.
- Camps cannot be stacked.
As for specific 6.86 changes I'd like the following:
- Throw SF and Tusk into the dumpster
- Bring back play-making mids (Puck, Brew, Mag, Bat, etc)
- A new item for strengh carries that would bring them back into the mainstream (armlet-like but good on everyone and without any major drawback)
- Camps cannot be stacked.
As for specific 6.86 changes I'd like the following:
- Throw SF and Tusk into the dumpster
- Bring back play-making mids (Puck, Brew, Mag, Bat, etc)
- A new item for strengh carries that would bring them back into the mainstream (armlet-like but good on everyone and without any major drawback)
Shuggananas
Banned
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
I remember when Dreamhack used to be a premiere event.
shira
Member
No it's actually always been shit-tier.
I remember one time they had Ayesee and like 30 chairs. And half the chairs were empty.
What I'd like is for the two jungles to be reworked, so they are "weaker." Make it so for Radiant, Mid doesn't have as easy access to jungle creeps, and for Dire, that there isn't two pull camps available.
Don't feel there is to much obvious mechanics changes that need to be changed. Maybe find a way to simplify the number of attack and armor types, and then display it easier.
JawesomeJaw
Member
The bleacher years.
the trouble is u wanna make it "weaker" for mid, but the same or better for pure junglers like chen/enigma/enchantress/axe etc... which is a tough problem to fix. I don't think you need to destroy stacking or anything over some heroes benefiting from stacks, last patch storm/lesh/lina/SF abused stacks. Now it's SF/Alch, notice the trend? Hero that has good aoe damage gets nerfed, stacks become less of a problem. Jungle stacking has functioned in this manner for years, no need to bring in the guillotine over a metagame that happened to have many strong AoE damage short CD/low mana nukers that greatly benefited from stacking.
IMO just move the hard camps that are stacked the most and give the most gold further away from mid and closer to the rivers (so they are easier to contest and harder for the mid to get to), nothing gamebreaking.
id like no denying to see what it does 2 the game o wait
one is an intended feature and the other, as far as I know, is a feature that arose from a bug in the code. (back in dota1)
disgusting
misses bull
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Shuggananas
Banned
yeah and fountain hooking was a feature that arose from a bug in the code
guess which between fountain hooking and stacking got left in the game
NormalFish
Banned
Shuggananas
Banned
G502 for 40€ at amazon, don't know about $ prices but it's probably a good deal too. Great mouse.
edit : aw poop, seems to be over
edit : pls don't buff slark he can manfight spectre and that's unacceptable
She has a 49% win rate. She doesn't need nerfing.
It's harder to tell with Earth Spirit, since he's (still) not in Captain's Mode. Meanwhile, Waifurunner has a 44% pro winrate.
The idea that she's somehow too powerful isn't borne out by the numbers.
Shuggananas
Banned
http://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/meta
sort 5k+ by win %
Can we please stop looking at the aggregate WR?? It's meaningless.
NormalFish
Banned
All I'm saying is "look at the winrate!" isn't a very good case for which heroes are weak or strong. If that were the case, Omni would be straight broken.
I'd wager WR has a sub-50 winrate (especially in pro matches) due to people knowing how to draft against her, rather than the hero not being strong. Clearly a case can be made that this balances her, but I'm not convinced. I think regardless of her winrate, the current incarnation of windrun is a stupid skill, and demoli's change makes a lot of sense to me. Increase duration/lower CD to compensate.
WR is at 48% win rate at 4k, 46% at 5k. She is the most picked hero at those tiers though. Someone has to be the most popular hero, and I'd rather it be WR instead of Sniper.
NormalFish
Banned
Upon further examination, please leave WR alone and buff weaver so I can build MKB every game and not get flamed.
It makes no sense to me, because it makes the skill completely useless. You can't move and fire at the same time.
I'm not even convinced that people are "drafting against her". I don't think she has any particularly specific counters (there's nobody who can hit her through evasion, for example), so drafts "against" her are generic things like "stuns and magic nukes", which are always good.
Pastafarian
Member
I'm sure icefrog will only buff the cool heroes like tiny and ursa
NormalFish
Banned
I don't see why windrun should be a free 1v1 vs any physical damage hero without MKB. I don't think that was the original intent of the skill, nor do I think it's interesting design.
You might be right about the drafts, but I think you overstate the degree to which stuns and magic nukes in general are good vs a windrunner. Once she gets a bkb, she's very difficult to damage for a pretty lengthy bit of time, so you need skills that go through bkb or you need heroes that can jump her (blink hex, for example). I should look up her individual winrates in pro matches vs the heroes I think are good vs her to see if it holds water. dunno.
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Datdota is so hard to navigate. Is there a better site?
I am offlane player in the 4k bracket. Kinda hard when your carry just sells their shit, buy mangos and feeds when they give up. I',m always the positive guy in the team trying to win so i dont think it is my mindset.
i might start learning mid now but it be a long road.
features from bugs in the code are what made sc and bw so amazing and cool, nothing wrong with features created thru bugs
-shackleshot disjointable
-windrun purge-able
-shackleshot no longer ministuns on miss
iceFrauD plS
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
I didn't mean for Dota, just for esports in general.
shira
Member
Well ESL is owned by the same company that owns Dreamhack so it will be interesting to see if anything changes.
call_kotaku
Member
isn't dreamhack a LAN festival first and an esports event as a side thing?
I think so
Dreamhack sc2 used to be pretty legit iirc, but they had that like change of ownership last year or something where they forced the fat dude out
SecretMoblin
Member
Do you have some sort of periodical or subscription service? I would very much be interested, thanks.
It's almost as if teamwork was part of Dota or something.
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