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Dragon Age 4 development was reportedly rebooted drastically in late 2017
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
I expect this game to get canned.
spandexmonkey
Banned
I think I've heard this song before...
Looking forward to the actual ingame footage.
Looking forward to the actual ingame footage.
mejin
Member
game or bioware. which will EA choose?
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Could be both. I think they will keep Bioware around for a bit to see if they can turn around Anthem, but I don't see them dumping more money into another project.
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Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Just... make... a real... mass effect...
I’ve said it before, a ME trilogy would be easy money and make fans happy. But I would be more than happy for a mass effect 4. I don’t even care about how you get me there, timey wimey bollocks if you have too... but being back with my boy Shepard commander is all I care for. Either make a 4, make a trilogy re-release, or just finish the story and leave it.
I’ve said it before, a ME trilogy would be easy money and make fans happy. But I would be more than happy for a mass effect 4. I don’t even care about how you get me there, timey wimey bollocks if you have too... but being back with my boy Shepard commander is all I care for. Either make a 4, make a trilogy re-release, or just finish the story and leave it.
Afro Republican
Banned
Well after now knowing about the dev cycle for Anthem and how it had problems and only really started development in 2018, this isn't surprising.
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
Spaceman292
Banned
This might sound ignorant, but how difficult is it to make a video game? Can't they just plan it out, follow the plan and make it in a reasonable time? I know it's complicated, but everyone else seems to be able to do it. Ubisoft games are pretty dull but they come out like clockwork.
Fbh
Gold Member
Between current Bioware's incompetence and failing leadership and EA's mandate of everything having to be an online service I have pretty much zero interest in this.
Regardless of the "it might turn out fine" stance Schreier takes here, at this point it's almost a given that It's going to be another online only, loot focused coop game. Best case scenario it will be a decent Diablo Clone, worst case it's another Anthem.
When the fanbase reacts negatively they are going to go for the usual damage control tactic by promising that "Story is totally still an important element" and "you can beat the story playing solo if you want" while neglecting that the entire game from its very core is not what fans wanted.
Well from the article it seems like the leadership at Bioware is completely incompetent and have big issues with both planning and decision making.
Then comes EA to make things even worse by forcing everyone to use Frostbite (which apparently sucks for everything except FPS Dice games), and demanding everything is built as a "live service".
And when both the publisher and developer suck you get shit like Andromeda and Anthem
The current higher ups at EA would rather die than sell you a game you pay for once and can beat in 30-40 hours.
If it's not going to have you playing for months and hundreds of hours while spending extra money on microtransactions they don't want to hear about it
Regardless of the "it might turn out fine" stance Schreier takes here, at this point it's almost a given that It's going to be another online only, loot focused coop game. Best case scenario it will be a decent Diablo Clone, worst case it's another Anthem.
When the fanbase reacts negatively they are going to go for the usual damage control tactic by promising that "Story is totally still an important element" and "you can beat the story playing solo if you want" while neglecting that the entire game from its very core is not what fans wanted.
Well from the article it seems like the leadership at Bioware is completely incompetent and have big issues with both planning and decision making.
Then comes EA to make things even worse by forcing everyone to use Frostbite (which apparently sucks for everything except FPS Dice games), and demanding everything is built as a "live service".
And when both the publisher and developer suck you get shit like Andromeda and Anthem
The current higher ups at EA would rather die than sell you a game you pay for once and can beat in 30-40 hours.
If it's not going to have you playing for months and hundreds of hours while spending extra money on microtransactions they don't want to hear about it
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Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Yeah and that pisses me off...
I’m 35. I was playing quake and quake 2, and getting cover CDs with free content on them. Not one map, or a skin... massive total conversions and full on expansion packs... for free.
This world we live in where you have to pay to do anything now is fucking disgusting... that’s why the games I’ve enjoyed the most this gen have all been simple straight forward affairs. I don’t need that shit, I’ve got a kid, a wife, a life. I just want to play a game, beat it, and stick it on the shelf to come back to another day...
I’m 35. I was playing quake and quake 2, and getting cover CDs with free content on them. Not one map, or a skin... massive total conversions and full on expansion packs... for free.
This world we live in where you have to pay to do anything now is fucking disgusting... that’s why the games I’ve enjoyed the most this gen have all been simple straight forward affairs. I don’t need that shit, I’ve got a kid, a wife, a life. I just want to play a game, beat it, and stick it on the shelf to come back to another day...
TeamGhobad
Banned
will all the women be ugly again?
That is the reason why I said Bioware needs to be shut down before they ruin another IP. I thought Origins was fantastic. Dragon Age 2 was bullshit and 3 tried to go back to more older roots but in the end failed. But at least they tried. This sounds like Anthem with dragons. And yes Bioware needs to be closed. VERY FAST
JLMC469
Banned
Prefer if they cut all ties with EA.
Extremely talented studio managed by extremely incompetent people.
There are no talented people left. They are all gone.
Whitesnake
Banned
There are two distinct possibilities:
Anandon all hope.
- The game never comes out, EA shuts down Bioware.
- The game comes out and it's shit, EA shuts down Bioware.
Anandon all hope.
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Why would EA do that? A crappy game with constant transcations like Anthem will make more for EA than any single player gem like Dragon Age Origins. This is the sad reality of AAA studios now.
anthraticus
Banned
I kinda wanna see Bio & Beth stick around and see just how big disasters they can be for entertainment value.
dottme
Member
That’s what is frightening for me. And we can see it in Anthem. EA is selling skin/color swap at crazy high prices and some people look happy to buy them.
If they make money with game like Anthem, they’ll continue this way.
Newly Vacant
Member
Dragon Age: Origins is still one of my favorite games. I really liked the world BioWare created. After Dragon Age: Inquisition, it seemed like BioWare had a vision and direction where they were headed. I had hoped they were going to take what they’d learned, and mix it with the feedback they got, and make a game that felt like a true follow up to Origins. It really is a shame BioWare squandered so much of its talent and IP. It’s too bad Microsoft can’t buy BioWare out from under EA and let them make the games they want to make.
Maybe that’s too naive. Both Anthem and Mass Effect: Andromeda were disasters of their own making. EA or Microsoft, the results would probably have been the same.
Maybe that’s too naive. Both Anthem and Mass Effect: Andromeda were disasters of their own making. EA or Microsoft, the results would probably have been the same.
CyberPanda
Banned
Bioware needs to be shut down.
DeleteriousObnoxious
Member
It really fascinates me how people are still desperately clinging to a faint hope that Bioware can change from the traversty they have become the past few years. Newsflash games are not made by Money or branding games are made by passionate people and Bioware has decidedly fired or turned those who still needed the pay depressive anxiety ridden people. So why are people still hoping for a turn when non exists? Pathetic!
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Ozymandias013
Banned
At this point I don't even care about this game cause the people that formed Bioware and delivered best rpg's in gaming are not there anymore,and I will not be surprised if this game will be "a live service" following with a "roadmap"
nowhat
Member
This is so depressing. I admit being something of a Dragon Age fan, and while Inquisition certainly had issues, I still enjoyed it. And after Trespasser, the plot was set out for a really epic sequel.
....and now this. It seems to be in pre-production (still!), but I really don't have much optimism in what they will come up with. If they ever will, after Anthem I think the future of BioWare as a studio is far from certain.
....and now this. It seems to be in pre-production (still!), but I really don't have much optimism in what they will come up with. If they ever will, after Anthem I think the future of BioWare as a studio is far from certain.
xrnzaaas
Member
Nah, it'll get released, because they sunk too much money into it. Just expect a similar metascore to Anthem.
It really seems like BioWare and EA have enormous problems with planning new projects and organizing their development. We all joke about EA finally pulling the plug on BioWare, but DA4 actually has a real chance of being their last game.
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GenericUser
Member
I watched angry joes recap on schreiers article and if half of that is true, I have no faith in dragon age 4. It's kinda sad because the franchise once had potential, but if bioware is as incompetent as indicated, the game is lost.
Screamer-RSA
Member
Fuck'em, I'm done with the ouput of EA and any of their companies. Live service and monetise that you cunts.
The Bloody-Nine
Member
Gaas incoming. Fuck that.
ookami
Member
Even if Bioware get to split from EA it won't change anything. It could even be worse without funds provided by the editor. As it was highlighted most of the decisions for Anthem, if not all, were on the studio and not the editor.
If they can't learn from mistakes this one makes strike 3 for Bioware/EA. Not buying shit from them again until there's a split.
And to be frank, most of the people that worked on the games that made Bioware's reputation are no longer there. Thus the evolution of the studio in an unexpected way. They changed the vision they had for their games. Maybe they also wanted to have à slice of the cake provided by live services but were not ready structurally nor technically to handle the changes in the company.
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KonradLaw
Member
It stiff baffles me why the hell won't they just make Neverwinter Nights in DA setting. Just make a singleplayer RPG, add GM and mission building tools and then sell assets packsm, items and new adventures as a part of live service, bassicaly copying supplements and figurines from tabletop version
