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Dragon Warrior IV

All equipment, items in inventory, and casino coins carry over to Chapter 5. It's just gold from each chapter that doesn't. So go ahead and buy stuff.

Only thing that doesn't carry over from Chapter 2 is
that you can't put the Thief's Key in Brey's inventory to skip Alena..have to get her to get the Thief's Key back
.
 
Also, the Orb of Silence disappeared from my inventory, seemingly. What the hell does the lamp of darkness do?

As for my party, my lowest level guys are now fighting. Loto (hero), Nara, Brey, Taloon, with Hector (the sucky, wagon owning non-character) and Mara staying in the sidelines. I think I'm looking for Alena next! :)
 
Mejilan said:
Also, the Orb of Silence disappeared from my inventory, seemingly. What the hell does the lamp of darkness do?

As for my party, my lowest level guys are now fighting. Loto (hero), Nara, Brey, Taloon, with Hector (the sucky, wagon owning non-character) and Mara staying in the sidelines. I think I'm looking for Alena next! :)
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The lamp of darkness turns day to night, doesn't it?
 
Chapter 5 is quite large, probably about 1/2 of the game, based on other people's estimates... the most interesting things about this game were in Ch 5, as well. I got frustrated with DW4 early on, as a kid, because I had trouble with the arena battles in chapter 2 (too lazy to level up :P), but the game really starts kicking in 5 when you get all your guys back and start wandering the world at large. One of my favorite games of all time, and probably the best NES game (FF3j is up there as well)... I was crushed when the remake never came out in the US :(
 
Ah hell, I only ever tried to use the Lamp of Darkness in battle (useless), and finally banked it with Taloon's wife. Man, I wish I wasn't working late. :/
 
Alright. Damn. Got that seed from that icey cave, healed Christo, now I've got an almost full crew. Hector, that worthless loaf, finally bailed. Once I get Ragnar, I guess I'm done reuniting the whole crew. Man... too many guys on my team now! So weird, in a DQ game.
 
Chapter 5 is huge.

I picked this up for $5 at Game Crazy not too long ago for a second playthough. Gotta finish it one of these days, as I haven't touched it in about a month. I have all the
chosen ones rounded up
but don't have any of the
Zenithian stuff
yet.
 
Just do what I usually do in RPGs, keep my weakest guys in party, and the strongest guys as reserves. Rotate whenever things change. Currently, I have Loto, Alena, Brey, and Christo in my party, with Taloon, Mara, and Nara waiting out.
 
I remember playing that back when I was a kid... damnit I wish they had brought out the PSX port/remake :(
 
I love DWIV. I waited so long for it, since 1990 when I saw some pics of it in Game Players and a story about the insanity of DQ there. (At the time though, we only had DWI here.... so a while yet.)

While, I personally prefer III just because I love the openendedness (for the time) of the system, and I enjoy the story wrap up...

IV is the superior game, in almost all aspects.

I levelled my chars all to level 99 back in the day. All I did was wander near the last save point in one of the towers and fight 8 King Metalslimes at once along with many metal babbles... made like... 800 000 exp a fight that way. (Chance=everyone confused=insanity!)

The day/night cycle from III, the soothing music, just the world itself seemed so... alive and vibrant. Best boss fight ever on the NES for an RPG, bar none.

If you have played DWIIIr for the GBC... there is a stronger connection than just the name to DWIV.

The back of DWVII's manual still saddens me to this day.

I have the OST for the PS DQIV remix, and it's very well done. Faithful to the material, while making it more powerful and better sounding.

Such great moments in DWIV... Aktmento (The mining town, spelling? It's been a while), The desert town with Mara and Nara. Rosa and Saro... Endor and it's awesome casino, that port town by the lighthouse where you help Taloon in the chapter V. Taloon's whole quest to begin with is something never really replicated still. (Gotta love the sword's of Malice.) The Monster Castle... ("The Skeleton monster... when it eats, where does it's food go?") heh, I loved that line.

I hope S-E puts the Zenithian half of DQ (4-6) on some sort of compilation here as compensation to the fans who have been with the series since the NES original.

DQVIII is going to be so nice... I'll make sure I have time off to play it. :D

This is a very... nostalgic thread. :) Thanks everyone.
 
Red Scarlet said:
If you know the game well, the remake isn't hard to go through.. :)
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Speaking of which, I'm going through the remake ever so slowly and your translation faqs (I assume they're yours anyways) are immensely useful. Thanks.

Now, I only wish I could recall what's going on in the story... I haven't played DWIV in english since I was 9 or 10. :lol
 
Mejilan said:
Just do what I usually do in RPGs, keep my weakest guys in party, and the strongest guys as reserves. Rotate whenever things change. Currently, I have Loto, Alena, Brey, and Christo in my party, with Taloon, Mara, and Nara waiting out.
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I used to do that all the time, and I still have this urge to do it whenever I play through an RPG nowadays... unfortunately, I don't have the time to spend that I used to, so lately I've been sticking with a main party and powering through the game. :/

I miss having absolutely no responsibilities and/or social life. :/
 
AFAIK, the most you could fight at once for Metal Kings was 2 on the NES..but 4 on the remake.

Breaky: If they're the chapter-by-chapter ones, then yeah those are my crappy ones. The actual walkthrough there is dumb..guy copied/pasted everything from a site and slapped his name on it and got faq of the month for it. :/

I think you're the 3rd person on Earth that's read mine. :lol
Should remove the immigrant thing..I gave up halfway after that googled-guide with everything had that in there.
 
I'm pretty sure I used a faq of yours for DQ5r Scarlet. Can't recall which, I think it was finding tinymedals.

I really should snatch up a copy of DQ4r before it dissapears. The PSOne Books version isn't too expensive.
 
Red Scarlet said:
AFAIK, the most you could fight at once for Metal Kings was 2 on the NES..but 4 on the remake.
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I think you are correct. It's been since 1993 since I really played it hardcore like that. In any case, I smiled whenever I ran into King MetalSlimes in DWIV. (Who doesn't?) It meant the potential for many level ups, given the chance.

Anyone buy the Torneko PS game Enix released here in fall 2000? It's not for everyone, but I liked it a lot. That's the closest the PS would get to a DWIV remake, as it turned out...

Yeah, I'm still bitter about the DWIVr cancellation.

[Edit] Jeeez, Red, you sure are changing your avatar a lot this morning. :D
 
I know the fight you're talking about though..1 Metal King + 5? Metal Babbles + 2 Slimes...and the awesome AI going for those slimes first!

I don't change them, they rotate randomly. I just woke up.
 
About to explore the world at large with the boat, now that I've been united with Alena 'n company.
 
Red Scarlet said:
How'd that end up?
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Didn't manage it. Nor this weekend either. I was out of state and did precious little gaming, handheld or otherwise. Also, I decided not to rush it too much, since I likely will not be able to get into the later DW games as quickly as I had hoped! :)
 
A little bump for DQ fans.

So I started DQ4 after beating DQ6 and DQ5, and boy do I hate the lack of manual combat option :( Normal encounters are pretty easy but the bosses are tough as hell.

Kleeleon was easy but his boss, a big demon with a mace (the one that killed M&N father), wasn't. Hitting my whole party 2 times in a row with Snowstorm (35 damage to all each) was painful. Of course Nara The Retarded didn't cast Healmore but Sleepmore 7-9 times (didn't work on him) :( I had to heal with the Hero. Luckily Mara kept on casting Blazemore again and again (90 damage each time).

Now I'm stuck in the battle with Rosaknight - bastard stops all my spells so no Healmore or Blazemore just plain old sword hacking. He defeated me so many times I think I have to level up a little (level 23 now) or bettter yet - find that missing Joker Papon or Panon.
 
I was working on my second playthrough of this not too long ago. You know what makes that boss a real pushover?

Sword of Lethargy on the hero, plus a mage that knows Bikill. With that setup, neither Balzack nor Keeleon ever got off an attack.
 
Parallax Scroll said:
I was working on my second playthrough of this not too long ago. You know what makes that boss a real pushover?

Sword of Lethargy on the hero, plus a mage that knows Bikill. With that setup, neither Balzack nor Keeleon ever got off an attack.
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Really, it works here ???

My one mage knows BiKill I didn't really tried it yet.

DW6 was all about BiKill, Increase and Hustle Dance x 4.
DW5 was all about BiKill, Barrier, Increase and Staff of Benediction + Sage's Stone.

DW4 so far is hard... I'll try the BiKill strategy (if Brey will cast it of course :), thanks for the tip!

I don't have that Sword, though. I bought 2 Dragon Killers for 30 K :)
 
Yeah, I'm REALLY not digging the lack of manual control. By far one of the stupidest decisions ever, IMHO.

At first I was like, 'Cool! Reminds me of DW Monsters, no where's the manual control toggle.' Ugh.

Brilliant game, beyond that, however.

I've greatly overleveled (just for kicks), and I can mop the floor with most grunts. I'll continue my questing very soon. Still missing Ragnar from my party!
 
Mejilan said:
Yeah, I'm REALLY not digging the lack of manual control. By far one of the stupidest decisions ever, IMHO.

At first I was like, 'Cool! Reminds me of DW Monsters, no where's the manual control toggle.' Ugh.

Brilliant game, beyond that, however.

I've greatly overleveled (just for kicks), and I can mop the floor with most grunts. I'll continue my questing very soon. Still missing Ragnar from my party!
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Pushed it a little further today, now I'm missing only 2 parts from the Zenithian set (reminds me of Diablo 2 sets) My party (Hero, Nara, Mara, Ragnar) is at level 30, I don't care about the rest stuck in Wagon :)

I'm moving slowly through a really hard dungeon (a moving one!), don't have any idea how to gather those tears from Rosa... (please no spoilers).

I like how the Final Fantasy series has same Chocobos, Airships, Cid, Summons, Weapons (Bosses) in almost every game and all Dragon Warriors (from what I played - 4, 5, 6) has same Zenithian stuff, Zenithian Castle, demons and "young hero" storyline.
 
I've read that the Sword of Lethargy/Sleepmore works on Keeleon...it works on Balzack + too? Weird.

Are you playing the rom, Borys? On the first page of the topic, there's a code you can use to have manual control (I dunno if they released Game Genies where you are at..Poland? iirc).

Right..DW1-3 are a trilogy, 4-6, 7-8 (right now).
 
Red Scarlet said:
I've read that the Sword of Lethargy/Sleepmore works on Keeleon...it works on Balzack + too? Weird.

Are you playing the rom, Borys? On the first page of the topic, there's a code you can use to have manual control (I dunno if they released Game Genies where you are at..Poland? iirc).

Right..DW1-3 are a trilogy, 4-6, 7-8 (right now).
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Yeah, I don't own a NES :/ I had the European "consoles" - Spectrum, Commodore 64 and Amiga 500.

And no, no hex cheating, no emu saves etc. I want the same exact experience as on the real console. Luckily if something is too hard now it ain't that hard 10 levels later :)
 
Red Scarlet said:
What's the moving dungeon you're stuck in now?
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The Statue that transports you to the Monster Castle(?)

Not exactly stuck just too weak to continue, keep on dying a lot.
 
On my first playthrough, I was never even hit by
Esturk
thanks to the Sword of Lethargy. That's really when I realized how good of a weapon it is.
 
Parallax Scroll said:
On my first playthrough, I was never even hit by
Esturk
thanks to the Sword of Lethargy. That's really when I realized how good of a weapon it is.
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Esturk's
dead, baby. I thought it would be the end but of course noooooooo (typical jRPG goodness!). Got my
flying ballon
and I'm off to search the rest of the Zenithian stuff and Necrosaro!

Red Scarlet said:
Ohh, that one. Hmm, I've never even bought a Sword of Lethargy..
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Same!
My fighters are using Swords of Miracles (from the Medal King)! You can't beat the auto-healing!
 
Phew, finished it today.

Mejilan close your eyes now :)

Man am I stupid or what? There was this hardest, longest dungeon in the entire game - the cave that connects normal world with the demon world. After completing it you have to defeat 4 demon generals, complete ANOTHER big dungeon and finally beat the last boss in the longest boss fight ever. Seems undoable without a save/ RETURN point in between, right?. Luckily there is a S/R point right before you have to fight those generals - The Last Refugee.

Well I missed it the first time I entered the demon world. First general wiped my ass pretty badly (I had maybe 20% of MP left when the fight started).
I missed it the second, third and fourth time also! Yes, I had to go through that damned cave FIVE times.

I just didn't notice the entrance :(
After that it was an easy ride. Necrosaro fought hard (his "last" form killed Nara) but finally fell after a massive 406 damage critical by Ragnar!

Woohoo!

Now I'm pumped for DQ8!
 
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