Ken Masters
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658,179 first week sales
Only eminem is a bigger hip hop star at this point
Only eminem is a bigger hip hop star at this point
Drake - Nothing Was the Same |OT| - Leader of the New School
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IrishNinja
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im okay with sales-age crown, but...the more i revisit GKMC & listen Danny Brown's new Old, the more its obvious dude isn't leading anything. newjacks aint even running in his particular R&B crossover lane, while these dues are putting in work on their lyricism/content and pushing others to step they game up.
again i don't often rank influence when talkin classic cause i think it's a tricky metric, but drizzy can go 10x platnium, Em will prolly eat well in nov with whatever struggle he puts out, but neither of them are leading a thing out there
again i don't often rank influence when talkin classic cause i think it's a tricky metric, but drizzy can go 10x platnium, Em will prolly eat well in nov with whatever struggle he puts out, but neither of them are leading a thing out there
Holyyyyyyy Shiiiiiiiiiiiittt
Wayne might be a joke but Carter 4 still sold nearly a million first week.
btw. Kendrick having a bit fun with Drake from the BET Cypher
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO4FJlExZUA
iamshadowlark
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Old is kinda trashy. Weak IMO. And Kendrick generally raps a different style than drake, I don't know how directly comparable they are. But if Drake isn't running shit with his success, I hate to think what Kendrick is doing.
abstract alien
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It's alright I guess. That high five though...
Top tier.
Edit: Actually, that Haha shit was wack as hell. High five still got it covered though lol
MisterNegative
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WHEN IS THE FULL CYPHER
Ken Masters
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Carter 4 was years ago, IANAB2 barely went gold
IrishNinja
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trashy i guess, but weak? nah
and to borrow from another: "When R&B was talking over rap in the early 2000s, no one was claiming that Ja Rule, Bow Wow, or Nelly were the leaders of the new-school of hip-hop."
drake put out another good album & does great #'s, no need to make it out to be more than it is
You can't compare spinoff hobby projects like I am not a human being with its mayor releases, that's like expecting Mario Tennis to sell as much as Mario Plattformer. And Carter 4 isn't even that old.
Ken Masters
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Lol @ trying to group nelly, bow wow and Ja with Drake
Your desperation to slander Drake is sad at this point
victreeb3l
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Kinda bored of this album already. Doesnt really have the staying power of Take Care. Only songs that still get regular burn is "Started from the bottom", "Hold on were going home", "Pound Cake" and "Come Thru", first two which I've been listening to for a few weeks already.
Gave it a listen several times this week. First two tracks are hot. Even still enjoy "Started from the Bottom" regardless radio overkill. Then when I get to Wutang Forever, I sit there waiting for the hotness to drop... and still I wait while kittens frolic over harps and he croons "Its yours" softly in my ears.
I then realize, gasp, this IS the song, there are no WU cameos and the tempo will never pick up.
After that track I always kind of drift off or something. I think the other tracks were decent. I can't remember, lately I turn it off at that point on later play throughs.
I then realize, gasp, this IS the song, there are no WU cameos and the tempo will never pick up.
After that track I always kind of drift off or something. I think the other tracks were decent. I can't remember, lately I turn it off at that point on later play throughs.
IrishNinja
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huge crossover hits with R&B, did big #'s at the time, prolly had teenage girls like yourself championing them new leaders, getting mad when anyone didn't agree with that view, etc etc
Ken Masters
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Sorry troll, calling me a teenage girl when you just group Bow Wow in the same sentence as Drake just shows your stupid little agenda
Now go run back to the GAF-Hop thread and use those coli smilies and keep complaining about me
IrishNinja
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popular artists, R&B/pop crossover lane...but still you get offended at "stupid little agendas" when your cheerleading gets poo-poo'd a bit. what i'm saying is neither difficult nor offensive here.
if you ask for most people's top 10 MC's, you get names like: Rakim, Redman, DOOM, Mos, Ghostface, Big L, Pun, etc etc...none of these ever really put up big #'s. if hip hop was Pop were sales = the highest possible metric, you'd see Ja Rule, Puffy, Lil Jon, Pitbull, Nicki, Wayne, and all kinds've other names.
that's all i'm saying. it doesn't take from Drake's album here, nor if you personally put him in your top 10 or whatever, i mean that's fine too. but talking sales-age alone as a metric for hip hop doesn't make sense, and never did. if you weren't such a ridiculous stan, you'd see this point for what it is & not take it as an affront to your new personal leader or whatever.
and finally: i really don't know your personal obsession with GAF-hop or why you always want to bring them up, but it's got nothing to do with this.
Darko
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How is it a spinoff hobby project?
Discotheque
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lmao at that hold on we're going home video. yeah sure drake. it is definitely a dope 80s throwback lionel ritchie style track.
but that does not at all fucking fit the miami vice video you wanted. wtf. dork thinks he's rico tubbs. and his crew of lames. asap rocky's gotten annoying post mixtape for me.
but that does not at all fucking fit the miami vice video you wanted. wtf. dork thinks he's rico tubbs. and his crew of lames. asap rocky's gotten annoying post mixtape for me.
Angelus Errare
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How has someone who's basically faded away gotten annoying? (I say that as a Rocky fan...
)Grover Cleveland
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NWTS second week sales out, Leader of the New School took a hit
DRAKE YM/CM/REPUBLIC 146,251 -78%
NOTHING WAS THE SAME
Birdman forgot to buy second week copies
DRAKE YM/CM/REPUBLIC 146,251 -78%
NOTHING WAS THE SAME
Birdman forgot to buy second week copies
Ken Masters
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NWTS second week sales out, Leader of the New School took a hit
DRAKE YM/CM/REPUBLIC 146,251 -78%
NOTHING WAS THE SAME
Birdman forgot to buy second week copies
not a big surprise, will go on to sell around 1.5 million
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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First verse of "From Time" ain't bad.
If Drake would just fuckin' mature a little bit, personally, dude could be a really great rapper, one who stands apart from that hard/soft bullshit guys like Big Ghost give him shit over. Maybe his record label makes him keep being the "saving strippers" guy, I dunno.
As it stands, I have to admit that Kendrick is "better" - though, in truth, he's often pretty preachy and obvious, dope as his beats may be - but I think Drake, at his best, is at least a little more vulnerable and interesting.
If Drake would just fuckin' mature a little bit, personally, dude could be a really great rapper, one who stands apart from that hard/soft bullshit guys like Big Ghost give him shit over. Maybe his record label makes him keep being the "saving strippers" guy, I dunno.
As it stands, I have to admit that Kendrick is "better" - though, in truth, he's often pretty preachy and obvious, dope as his beats may be - but I think Drake, at his best, is at least a little more vulnerable and interesting.
Ken Masters
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Tracks like Too Much aren't shallow, we might see more like that in future albums, he's said as his career goes on he won't make tracks like Motto anymore as he gets older and more mature
XANDER CAGE
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I laughed way too much at this, damn :lol
Ken Masters
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told y'all
told y'all
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