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[Agent X]

Isn't there some way they can lock out the Online features of the game until they can get the problem fixed? Of course, they should offer some compensation for the inconvenience to those who bought the retail version, like the first dlc pack for free or something. I realize that playing this game without an online component is shitty but at least you could still play it.

As it is it's the lesser evil, until they can find the root of the problem and fix it. If they say they have the servers they need then the fault lies with Evo, so they need to get on that shit asap. Don't keep delaying the game, release it with the online portion locked out, make it a barebones arcade/free mode or something. Something just to show that everyone will eventually get the game and it won't be kept getting pushed back till november or december.

I'm not a huge fan of racing games but I can feel the frustration of both those who bought the retail version and the ones who are waiting for the PS+ version.

If locking out the online portion is a stupid proposition then I apologize, but I haven't even tried the game yet so I don't know how feasible is that, just throwing it out there that playing something would be better than nothing at all.

This is a good idea. It is imperative that Sony make good on their promise to offer the PlayStation Plus edition in the month of October. Just release the game with the online features patched out and everything else intact. After they resolve the network problems, they can issue a patch to reinstate the online features back into the game.

 

[Drunkensamurai]

So is the weather update still coming out after all these issues?

 

[DrM]

You mean beyond damaging their reputation and image in the minds of consumers worldwide?

I mean severe stuff like studio being shut down or something like that

Plus I am still waiting for 5 minute + long point-to-point with hyper cars as they drove us thirsty over water ...

 

[kaiyo]

I mean severe stuff like studio being shut down or something like that

Plus I am still waiting for 5 minute + long point-to-point with hyper cars as they drove us thirsty over water ...

You want Sony to shut down the studio? And we lose all the support for the game (free DLCs etc)?

 

[DrM]

You want Sony to shut down the studio? And we lose all the support for the game (free DLCs etc)?

Not that I want that, but just debating if such stuff can happen after this kind of events

 

[2thepoint]

I mean severe stuff like studio being shut down or something like that

Plus I am still waiting for 5 minute + long point-to-point with hyper cars as they drove us thirsty over water ...

The studio is not going to shutdown - the group are too talented to be shuttered because of online issues.

Although I feel that these issues should have been ironed out before launch, the overreaction in this thread is ridiculous, and also these ''articles'' from outlets such as VG247 proclaiming how the issue has turned into PS4's biggest liability is vomit inducing clickbait and nothing more.

Evolution are delivering updates, working on the problem, and trying to get their customers online before hordes of users download the PS Plus edition. Driveclub is a victim of ambition, but to suggest that this is a major issue for PS4 is bizarre.

 

[Agent X]

I'm surprised by the amount of outrage this gets.
When BF4 had wonky servers the internet was on fire.
DC isn't even working half as good as BF4 did and the promised PS+ edition is nowhere to be seen, but I rarely read about it.

I understand that there is natrually less outrage because DC sold considerably less than BF4, but at least gaming media could give Sony a bit more crap.

I agree.

Sony should thank their lucky stars that this debacle isn't getting much media coverage. Unfortunately (for us gamers), the fact that the press isn't lighting a torch under Sony's rear end about this is causing them to become complacent. There's just no sense of urgency. I have a feeling that if the media made a big stink about this earlier, Sony certainly would've delivered a solution by now.

The studio is not going to shutdown - the group are too talented to be shuttered because of online issues.

I hope not. I really like so many of the games Evolution developed in the past. At the same time, their handling of this situation is extremely poor. I think they can recover, but it's an uphill climb that's becoming more and more difficult with each passing day.

Although I feel that these issues should have been ironed out before launch, the overreaction in this thread is ridiculous, and also these ''articles'' from outlets such as VG247 proclaiming how the issue has turned into PS4's biggest liability is vomit inducing clickbait and nothing more.

Evolution are delivering updates, working on the problem, and trying to get their customers online before hordes of users download the PS Plus edition. Driveclub is a victim of ambition, but to suggest that this is a major issue for PS4 is bizarre.

It's been 19 days, but it seems like very little progress has been made in getting the PS+ edition released. Most of their updates have been periodic quotes along the lines of "we're still working on it", but they failed to give any estimates on availability. These quotes are nothing more than lip service at this point. They need to come clean and provide PS4 owners some more concrete information.

 

[NullPointer]

It's been 19 days, but it seems like very little progress has been made in getting the PS+ edition released. Most of their updates have been periodic quotes along the lines of "we're still working on it", but they failed to give any estimates on availability. These quotes are nothing more than lip service at this point. They need to come clean and provide PS4 owners some more concrete information.

Ouch.

And yeah, while there have been regular updates about incremental fixes and diagnostics there's no talk of a light at the end of the tunnel, and no guidance on the PS+ version.

Its something that has bugged me with the way Sony communicates in general, and specifically with DriveClub. The internal dates might talk of a reveal weeks away but they'll be fine to string fans along day by day. The disconnect between the two timelines (internal vs fan expectations) only causes needless frustration when expected dates are missed - this case its each day that goes by. The assumption is that any day now this will be fully operational, and each day people check in and see its still busted. Rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat,19 times and counting.

They need to provide some kind of ETA, because the lack of one just makes them look like they have no confidence that they could hit one, even after several weeks of working. Again, is the final fix days away? Or weeks? Months?

 

[dano1]

The studio is not going to shutdown - the group are too talented to be shuttered because of online issues.

Although I feel that these issues should have been ironed out before launch, the overreaction in this thread is ridiculous, and also these ''articles'' from outlets such as VG247 proclaiming how the issue has turned into PS4's biggest liability is vomit inducing clickbait and nothing more.

Evolution are delivering updates, working on the problem, and trying to get their customers online before hordes of users download the PS Plus edition. Driveclub is a victim of ambition, but to suggest that this is a major issue for PS4 is bizarre.

Yeah people are acting like spoiled little kids. As long as it keeps improving every week I'm good.

 

[Darknight]

The biggest issue I see in all of this is that PS+ is required to play online on PS4 yet if you want to play this game, servers are iffy yet still paying for the service.

Im not upset the PS+ Demo is not available, Im more upset Sony doesnt have the infrastructure in place to avoid this shit now with all the PS+ revenue. Even if this is per game basis, its not something to have happen to any one title especially one that's been hyped alot and delayed once already.

 

[NervousXtian]

The studio is not going to shutdown - the group are too talented to be shuttered because of online issues.

Although I feel that these issues should have been ironed out before launch, the overreaction in this thread is ridiculous, and also these ''articles'' from outlets such as VG247 proclaiming how the issue has turned into PS4's biggest liability is vomit inducing clickbait and nothing more.

Evolution are delivering updates, working on the problem, and trying to get their customers online before hordes of users download the PS Plus edition. Driveclub is a victim of ambition, but to suggest that this is a major issue for PS4 is bizarre.

Victim of ambition? Seriously?

They released a broken game that was already delayed for a year and then still haven't released the promised PS+ version.

Evolution isn't a victim of anything. They fucked up, they deserve to be put to task.

 

[2thepoint]

Victim of ambition? Seriously?

They released a broken game that was already delayed for a year and then still haven't released the promised PS+ version.

Evolution isn't a victim of anything. They fucked up, they deserve to be put to task.

Well, you just answered you're own question.

They are a victim of ambition because the online portion of their title was too ambitious for their studio - do you now understand?

And you complain that they ''fucked up'', yet you want them to release the PS Plus edition now so that it can cripple the title's online services which are just beginning to fix for customers who bought the game.

Makes sense.

 

[onken]

What a disaster. The game looked mediocre at best, the launch needed to be competent to gain a sliver of success.

 

[LAM09]

I am astonished by the wait. I have no idea how bad the servers were/are, but Evo can't be doing enough to sort it out.

 

[Stuggernaut]

I feel bad for everyone that bought the game and that have broken online features. It's a shitty situation and it sucks that they are coming up on 3 weeks of this.

I do not feel bad for all those people demanding the promised "free" version of the game and acting like Evolution/Sony have committed some sort of horrific crime on them. The sense of entitlement for free stuff is mind blowing.

Until they are 100% sure they have any server/online issues licked, it would be sheer stupidity to release the PS+ version.

Of course, what do I know... I don't own it anyway.

 

[Loakum]

At this point, I'm seriously considering trading in my copy of Driveclub back to gamestop for store credit. I might as well do it now, while I may get back a decent amount.

 

[Slashlen]

I do not feel bad for all those people demanding the promised "free" version of the game and acting like Evolution/Sony have committed some sort of horrific crime on them. The sense of entitlement for free stuff is mind blowing.

Can you tell me how to get Plus for free? Otherwise stop whining about people not happy with not getting promised content for a service that they pay for.

 

[rrc1594]

Are the servers still bad?

 

[Creaking]

Can you tell me how to get Plus for free? Otherwise stop whining about people not happy with not getting promised content for a service that they pay for.

All you have to do is keep excusing Sony for having an awful online infrastructure and you'll get a 15 day trial for free!

 

[Jedi2016]

Are the servers still bad?

Are you kidding? Have you been reading the threads?

 

[LookAtMeGo]

Are the servers still bad?

Matchmaking is working great. Getting into MP races has been smooth and fast with zero lag in the races for me. Still no challenges though, and that bug with the faceoffs displaying the wrong numbers still shows up from time to time.

 

[Chabbles]

So you cant even access the club cars your club has unlocked when psn is acting up ?, such a smart decision to make..

 

[LookAtMeGo]

So you cant even access the club cars your club has unlocked when psn is acting up ?, such a smart decision to make..

FWIW they are fixing that.

They just have bigger fish to fry at the moment.

 

[Cyborg]

I agree.

Sony should thank their lucky stars that this debacle isn't getting much media coverage. Unfortunately (for us gamers), the fact that the press isn't lighting a torch under Sony's rear end about this is causing them to become complacent. There's just no sense of urgency. I have a feeling that if the media made a big stink about this earlier, Sony certainly would've delivered a solution by now.



I hope not. I really like so many of the games Evolution developed in the past. At the same time, their handling of this situation is extremely poor. I think they can recover, but it's an uphill climb that's becoming more and more difficult with each passing day.



It's been 19 days, but it seems like very little progress has been made in getting the PS+ edition released. Most of their updates have been periodic quotes along the lines of "we're still working on it", but they failed to give any estimates on availability. These quotes are nothing more than lip service at this point. They need to come clean and provide PS4 owners some more concrete information.

I agree with almost everything you wrote. But it bothers me so much that Evolution gave us such a bad product that I will never support them again.
No matter what game they bring out I cant forget this

 

[GoldenCrow]

Can you tell me how to get Plus for free? Otherwise stop whining about people not happy with not getting promised content for a service that they pay for.

If you look in Sony's T&C's they state they can withdraw or change offerings as they see fit, so it isn't a promise whatsoever and should always factor this in. When you buy a product you also buy into the T&C's regardless of whether you like them or not if you don't read them or not interested in what they say then that is your fault. The people who have actually paid full retail for the game get priority over those that have expected it in addition to the standard PS+ October offerings.

Saying that the servers are almost working perfectly for me this weekend, with the exception of challenges I have been able to access everything and now the leaderboards are functioning the time trials are even better. I'm also glad that out of all the multiplayer games I have participated in the crash mad lot are so crap they are no problem and can see what they are doing from a mile off.

 

[GrizzleBoy]

Matchmaking is working great. Getting into MP races has been smooth and fast with zero lag in the races for me. Still no challenges though, and that bug with the faceoffs displaying the wrong numbers still shows up from time to time.

Translation: 60% of the time, it works every time.

 

[Stuggernaut]

Can you tell me how to get Plus for free? Otherwise stop whining about people not happy with not getting promised content for a service that they pay for.

I am talking about the game, not the service it comes on. You know this, you are just being difficult to support a faulty argument.

We really want to argue semantics here?

PS+ is a paid service with many more features than just free games. Just because they said a version of the game is coming, does not warrant the reaction some people are having.

They said it will happen, and it will happen. Why get bent out of shape over the timing.

You want to play so bad, go buy the full game. Plenty of people enjoying the single player experience.

 

[Slashlen]

If you look in Sony's T&C's they state they can withdraw or change offerings as they see fit, so it isn't a promise whatsoever and should always factor this in. When you buy a product you also buy into the T&C's regardless of whether you like them or not if you don't read them or not interested in what they say then that is your fault. The people who have actually paid full retail for the game get priority over those that have expected it in addition to the standard PS+ October offerings.

I'm fine with priority going to the retail customers, they shelled out(or got taken for) a lot more. What I disagree with is the idea that the Plus customers have no right to complain(even if there's some "we reserve the right to fuck you in the ass" T&C clause).

Plus customers have a right to complain about this. They have a right to complain about a month's shitty Plus lineup. These games are not "free", they are part of a service that people pay for, and if people are not happy with what they have received for their money then they are absolutely entitled to complain about it.

The bullshit from people unable to understand that is frankly getting annoying.

 

[2thepoint]

I am talking about the game, not the service it comes on. You know this, you are just being difficult to support a faulty argument.

We really want to argue semantics here?

PS+ is a paid service with many more features than just free games. Just because they said a version of the game is coming, does not warrant the reaction some people are having.

They said it will happen, and it will happen. Why get bent out of shape over the timing.

You want to play so bad, go buy the full game. Plenty of people enjoying the single player experience.

Completely agree.

If people cannot wait for a glorified demo, then just buy the title and stop complaining.

The world that exists outside of NeoGaf probably couldn't care less that the PS Plus edition isn't up yet, because, if they were that interested in the first place, they would have went out and bought the game.

The PS Plus edition is coming, but in the interests of the people that actually went to the bother of buying it, they would like to cater to them first before unleashing thousands, if not millions of PS Plus users onto what seems to be a house of cards in terms of online reliability.

 

[Mister Zimbu]

If you look in Sony's T&C's they state they can withdraw or change offerings as they see fit, so it isn't a promise whatsoever and should always factor this in. When you buy a product you also buy into the T&C's regardless of whether you like them or not if you don't read them or not interested in what they say then that is your fault. The people who have actually paid full retail for the game get priority over those that have expected it in addition to the standard PS+ October offerings.

Saying that the servers are almost working perfectly for me this weekend, with the exception of challenges I have been able to access everything and now the leaderboards are functioning the time trials are even better. I'm also glad that out of all the multiplayer games I have participated in the crash mad lot are so crap they are no problem and can see what they are doing from a mile off.

Who cares what the ToS says? I think we all know that Sony legally can pretty much do whatever they want.

It doesn't mean people getting undelivered promises and poor treatment from a service they pay for have any less of a right to be angry.

This isn't "entitlement", people are paying for a service, and not getting what they paid for. Any industry other than gaming and everyone would be calling for their heads.

 

[LookAtMeGo]

Translation: 60% of the time, it works every time.

LOL. If what you care about is racing with and against people online, that much is working now. Its definitley seeing improvements but its got a ways to go before its where it was supposed to be so ya I'd say they are about 60% finished.

 

[Crossing Eden]

PS+ is a paid service with many more features than just free games. Just because they said a version of the game is coming, does not warrant the reaction some people are having.

They said it will happen, and it will happen. Why get bent out of shape over the timing.

It's still promised content that people were supposed to receive a year ago before the delay, there's no defending this. When you say "this will be released on this date" then people expect it on that date, if something doesn't release on that date, then people are perfectly justified in expressing a negative reaction and distaste about it. Period.

 

[Slashlen]

You want to play so bad, go buy the full game. Plenty of people enjoying the single player experience.

That's just throwing good money after bad.

 

[gruenel]

Yeah people are acting like spoiled little kids. As long as it keeps improving every week I'm good.

People are acting like "spoiled little kids" because they expect a product they spent their hard earned money for to work?

Holy fuck, comments like this are infuriating.

 

[FinalStageBoss]

I am talking about the game, not the service it comes on. You know this, you are just being difficult to support a faulty argument.

We really want to argue semantics here?

PS+ is a paid service with many more features than just free games. Just because they said a version of the game is coming, does not warrant the reaction some people are having.

They said it will happen, and it will happen. Why get bent out of shape over the timing.

You want to play so bad, go buy the full game. Plenty of people enjoying the single player experience.

Agreed.

 

[msdstc]

You would think that it would come with Novembers plus games now, although if the servers are still just barely coping with people who bought the retail game I dread to think what would happen if it gets released to 7-8 million playstation plus users

Honestly I believe they are completely reworking the netcode. I don't necessarily believe the servers have improved at all... I think less people are probably playing at once, giving the impression that it has improved. Even still the improvement is fairly minor.

Pfff.. It's a bit better now but still completely shit online. Too many errors and disconnections. Even complete gamecrashes.

And in a couple of days people will be playing CoD and will never look back. Well maybe in december when the weather hits.

It's too late now unfortunately , I said it in the thread earlier. They're warning people at stores to not buy the game. There are multiple articles written, it has a 4.2 on the gamestop website. It may seem like small things seperate, but honestly the word of mouth is devastating especially these days.

You want Sony to shut down the studio? And we lose all the support for the game (free DLCs etc)?

The studio is not going to shutdown - the group are too talented to be shuttered because of online issues.

Although I feel that these issues should have been ironed out before launch, the overreaction in this thread is ridiculous, and also these ''articles'' from outlets such as VG247 proclaiming how the issue has turned into PS4's biggest liability is vomit inducing clickbait and nothing more.

Evolution are delivering updates, working on the problem, and trying to get their customers online before hordes of users download the PS Plus edition. Driveclub is a victim of ambition, but to suggest that this is a major issue for PS4 is bizarre.

I don't want anybody to lose their jobs, but it's clear something needs to change. This isn't the first time the game has either faced delays, issues, or underwhelmed. Also to say it's a "victim of ambition" is a little ridiculous, what did they REALLY do that was so ambitious? The always online/challenges thing? Because I've seen that in plenty of other games, and not just racers. Hell right from launch NFS Rivals had similar features that never had any problems.

 

[chrominance]

I agree.

Sony should thank their lucky stars that this debacle isn't getting much media coverage. Unfortunately (for us gamers), the fact that the press isn't lighting a torch under Sony's rear end about this is causing them to become complacent. There's just no sense of urgency. I have a feeling that if the media made a big stink about this earlier, Sony certainly would've delivered a solution by now.

To at least some extent, I think part of the issue is that most people just stopped caring about Driveclub. I'm guessing far more people bought Battlefield 4 than Driveclub, both because of the expected audience and also because lots of people who might have considered Driveclub held off for the PS+ version. I've also read a bunch of people's posts suggesting their experience has been mostly good, though obviously a lot of other people have had tons of problems either logging in at all or getting various online services to work properly.

But anyways, I think Sony should be almost as worried about the lack of interest in Driveclub's problems, because it implies that no one really cares about Driveclub.

 

[msdstc]

People are acting like "spoiled little kids" because they expect a product they spent their hard earned money for to work?

Holy fuck, comments like this are infuriating.

Completely agreed. For whatever reason the defense force has been all over this thread from the start. The fact of the matter is people have a right to be mad.

 

[EatinOlives]

I am talking about the game, not the service it comes on. You know this, you are just being difficult to support a faulty argument.

We really want to argue semantics here?

PS+ is a paid service with many more features than just free games. Just because they said a version of the game is coming, does not warrant the reaction some people are having.

They said it will happen, and it will happen. Why get bent out of shape over the timing.

You want to play so bad, go buy the full game. Plenty of people enjoying the single player experience.

What is this "overblown reaction" that people keep talking about? If you're talking about those who actively wish that the developers lose their jobs I agree it's overboard, but you seem to have just as much derision for the people simply upset that the PS+ version is not out yet.

Just because something is free does not mean it's free of all standards and criticism. There are still expectations, especially those that Evolution said themselves. They were the ones who said "it'll be available on launch day", not us. Don't blame us for saying "Hey Evo, why is PS+ nowhere to be found nineteen days after you said it'd be available on launch day?" If the demo was 2/3 days late then yes, say "way to get bent out of shape" if there's a 62 page thread about the delay. But we're talking nineteen days here. You really think nobody's allowed to hold them accountable for a launch this fucked up?

"Buy the full game because Evo has been too incompetent to fix their system to release the demo" is so beyond any hope of logic that I can't even begin to imagine anyone would seriously think this. This is the saddest defense force I've come across in recent memory.

 

[Mr. PlayStation]

As someone who was hyped since the game's original reveal back in Feb 2013, I'm surprised that I have been able to hold off from buying the full version until I play and get a feel for the handling of cars in the ps+ version.

 

[Sol_Goodguy]

Is it too much to ask for Sony/Evolution to give a rough ETA for the PS+ version? At this point that's all I want. The silence from them on this front is frustrating.

You want to play so bad, go buy the full game. Plenty of people enjoying the single player experience.

If it turns out I don't like the game (which wouldn't be shocking: racing games typically aren't my thing and the reviews are pretty mixed) I'd rather not go through the hassle of getting a refund. I'll just wait for the free demo that was promised so I don't have to gamble with my limited money. Even if I do end up liking Driveclub, I'm not sure I'd want to support Evolution after all that's happened.

The way I see it, being impatient and buying the full version would be condoning the mess that they've created.

 

[Agent X]

If people cannot wait for a glorified demo, then just buy the title and stop complaining.

Wait..."glorified demo"?

It's ironic that when people were comparing the merits of PlayStation Plus compared to competing services on other platforms, this was regarded as a "full game, minus a few cars and tracks". Yet when some users within that platform choose to speak out about why they haven't received that product yet, it's now relegated to a "glorified demo".

The world that exists outside of NeoGaf probably couldn't care less that the PS Plus edition isn't up yet, because, if they were that interested in the first place, they would have went out and bought the game.

I actually preordered the game a while back ($5 deposit). Normally I pick up preorders on the day of release, but as I was busy on October 7, I couldn't make it to the store that day. I figured the PS Plus edition would be good to tide me over for at least a day or two.

Unfortunately, I never got my PS Plus edition that day...and I still don't have it, 19 days later.

Fortunately, the turn of events played out in my favor, because after witnessing the severity of the problems with the botched launch of the game, I don't have to commit to the full-fledged purchase. Instead, I can keep my money in my wallet and sit back comfortably waiting for the developers to hammer out the problems.

When the PS+ version is released, I'll take that as a "green light" that the game is ready for prime time. Until then, it's in "red light" status. If Sony deems it not worthy enough to be playable by PS+ subscribers, then I'm pretty damn sure it's definitely not worthy enough for me to be dropping cash on it.

 

[Stuggernaut]

It's still promised content that people were supposed to receive a year ago before the delay, there's no defending this. When you say "this will be released on this date" then people expect it on that date, if something doesn't release on that date, then people are perfectly justified in expressing a negative reaction and distaste about it. Period.

I have no problem with being upset, hell it is annoying for sure. I just cringe at the amount of people that demand compensation, or think people/studio should be fired.

Trust me, I have been with PS+ and Sony since the beginning, I am well aware of how frustrating and disappointing it can be.

For me at least, the good outweighs the bad.

 

[schaft0620]

I actually preordered the game a while back ($5 deposit). Normally I pick up preorders on the day of release, but as I was busy on October 7, I couldn't make it to the store that day. I figured the PS Plus edition would be good to tide me over for at least a day or two.

Unfortunately, I never got my PS Plus edition that day...and I still don't have it, 19 days later.

How dare they do this to you!!!!!


Edit: you were busy on the 7th so you decided to go home and play the PS+ version?

 

[Badlucktroll]

Sony sure has egg on their suits after this. I hope they come out and take a bow just like after the PSN hack.

 

[Agent X]

How dare they do this to you!!!!!


Edit: you were busy on the 7th so you decided to go home and play the PS+ version?

Basically, yes. I was busy and I knew I wasn't going to be able to pick it up that day. But I was interested in getting the game, which is why I preordered it (they hold it for at least 48 hours after release).

I still want the game, but not if it's not fully functional.

 

[fallen_dawn]

Sony sure has egg on their suits after this. I hope they come out and take a bow just like after the PSN hack.

I can't tell if posts like these are serious anymore

 

[AEREC]

As someone who was hyped since the game's original reveal back in Feb 2013, I'm surprised that I have been able to hold off from buying the full version until I play and get a feel for the handling of cars in the ps+ version.

Same here...thought I always have the urge to buy the latest and greatest games...if I can hold off for a few days after it's released then I usually forget about it.

Ill still try out the PS+ version but not looking forward to it as much as I was around release day.

 

[Slashlen]

I have no problem with being upset, hell it is annoying for sure. I just cringe at the amount of people that demand compensation, or think people/studio should be fired.

The calls for firing are eye-rolling, though I wouldn't be surprised if Sony takes a hard look at Evolution after this whole thing. It's clear Evolution screwed this up, and when a game goes this wrong there should be people looking at why because these things aren't cheap and they've pissed a lot of people off. But specific solutions like closing the studio or firing Rushy are questions for Sony, and consumers really should just be concerned with this getting fixed and not having it happen again.

 

[Tagg9]

The calls for firing are eye-rolling, though I wouldn't be surprised if Sony takes a hard look at Evolution after this whole thing. It's clear Evolution screwed this up, and when a game goes this wrong there should be people looking at why because these things aren't cheap and they've pissed a lot of people off. But specific solutions like closing the studio or firing Rushy are questions for Sony, and consumers really should just be concerned with this getting fixed and not having it happen again.

Honestly, I see no reason for Sony to keep Evolution after this. They already have Gran Turismo to fill the sim racer genre, and you can bet the next instalment of GT will have just as many social features.

I suspect the only reason they put Evolution on this game in the first place is so that they'd have a racer at launch (when they knew that next-gen Gran Turismo was still a few years away). Because Evolution got too ambitious with the title, they had the unenviable decision of delaying or outright canceling the game. Clearly they thought it was worth the investment to delay the game and continue paying Evo for another year, however this may have been the wrong decision considering the finished product.

It's possible that Evolution would have been kept on if Driveclub had been a roaring success, but with Sony's recent inclination of trimming the fat I believe they stand no chance after Driveclub's DLC schedule concludes. Expect the firings to commence any day now, as they won't need all the staff for the DLC. Alternatively, it's possible they'll be moved to work on a smaller downloadable title in the interim, but I think the writing is on the wall long term.