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Drugs Live: Cannabis on Trial

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pauljeremiah

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Last year cannabis was smoked by 2 million people in the UK, making it the most commonly used illicit drug. Around a third of 16-24 year olds have tried it at least once.

But cannabis has changed a lot in recent years. ‘Skunk’ is a potent form of cannabis that now dominates 80% of the British market. Some believe it is far more addictive than other forms of cannabis, such as ‘hash’ and can provoke paranoid episodes, psychotic symptoms and memory loss.

In Drugs Live: Cannabis on Trial volunteers – including Jon Snow, Matthew Parris and Jennie Bond – will be seen taking part in a ground-breaking scientific trial looking at the effects on the brain of two different forms of cannabis – ‘skunk’ and ‘hash’. Another volunteer will be going through the trial live in the studio.

Jon Snow said: “I’ve worked in war zones, but I’ve never been as overwhelmingly frightened as I was when I was in the MRI scanner after taking skunk. I would never do it again. I can fully believe this week’s figures that tell us that 25 per cent of all psychosis treated in Britain is associated with smoking skunk. I had no idea it could be so powerful and terrifyingly mind altering. And I am someone who worked for three years in a drug dependents day centre. If many who smoke this stuff had ever seen the physical effects on the brain as displayed through the MRI scanner, they would make a more informed judgement as to what they were doing.”

Matthew Parris said: “When I was approached to take part in the trial I thought ‘What the heck? This could be interesting. I’m 65, I’ve lived a vivid life, taken risks with my reputation and lost all desire to ride sidesaddle into the sunset with my dignity intact. Smoking skunk wasn’t cool. It was just horrible, I felt stoned and stupid. The very smell now repels me.”

Jenny Bond said: "Nothing made me feel uncomfortable. The fact that I was perhaps hallucinating slightly was quite nice really, it was very floaty feeling. I didn't like the experience much but certainly didn't hate it. I'll be intrigued to see what all the results are."

The six-month trial, which has been designed by one of the world’s leading experts on the effects of illegal drugs on the brain, psychopharmacologist Professor Val Curran and conducted at UCL (University College London). Former government drugs advisor, Professor David Nutt of Imperial College London, will also feature in the programme.

The double-blind trial, which is being majority funded by Channel 4 with additional funding from DrugScience and the Beckley Foundation, has full ethical approval. On three separate occasions healthy volunteers took controlled doses of different forms of medicinal cannabis as well as a placebo under laboratory conditions at UCL, supervised by medical staff. Unlike most other studies, which simply ask people what type of cannabis they use, this trial administered carefully measured amounts of cannabis each with a specified chemical profile.

THC (Tetrahydrocannabiol) in cannabis is what makes people feel ‘stoned’. In less potent varieties like hash, THC is about 5% of the plant but in highly potent ‘skunk’ THC levels have increased to 15% or more. ‘Hash’ also contains cannabidiol (CBD), which can act as an antidote to some of THC’s effects; skunk has virtually no CBD.

In order to test whether CBD is an ‘antidote’ to THC, Professor Curran’s team compared a normal dose of skunk with a much higher dose of hash. This meant that volunteers inhaled equal levels of THC; the only difference is that hash also contains a substantial amount of CBD.

The new programme, which is presented by Jon Snow and Dr Christian Jessen, follows the success of Channel 4’s Drugs Live: The Ecstasy Trial in 2012 which was watched by around two million young people in the UK and many more across the internet.

As well as fMRI scans and cognitive tests showing what is going on in the brain, it will also look at the neurological and psychological effects of the two forms of cannabis on memory, appreciation of music and psychological wellbeing.

Professors Curran and Nutt will describe the chemicals in cannabis that are responsible for the effects seen. They will explain how they differ between the two forms of the drug, look at the potentially positive effects of cannabis, as well as the risks. And a live studio audience will debate the effectiveness of the UK law using examples of legalisation and medical use from around the world.

Alongside the programme will be extensive online resources and links to support and advice at channel4.com/drugslive and viewers will be able to interact via social media.

Professor Val Curran said: “This is a hugely exciting and important research project which will show how ‘Skunk’ and ‘hash’ can produce different effects on the human brain, mind and behaviour. My research group were concerned that cannabis addiction in the UK has increased over recent years alongside the increased market dominance of skunk. I hope this new programme will scientifically inform those who use, have used or are thinking of using this drug about the diverse effects of different types of cannabis.”

The results of the trial will also be submitted for publication in peer-reviewed journals.
 

A Fish Aficionado

I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
Oh come on.
Overdosing on THC/cbd can induce psychosis like episodes temporarily and with people with heart dysfunction it might be more intrusive but permanent damage isn't well established.


Not harmless, but not toxic. ODs of opoids is much worse.
 

Chichikov

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"Sure, we were wrong and we were lying about pot for years, but this new super-pot is actually really dangerous, you got to believe us this time" seem to be the talking point du jour of anti-pot advocates.

Yeah, pot got stronger, good thing it's still pot.
 
Aren't the "less natural" versions of THC becoming popular because illegality of regular weed makes it more of a hassle getting the natural and good stuff? "More bang for your buck" seems more logical when you're buying something that's illegal.

It's like with alcohol prohibition, where people wouldn't exactly drink good whisky's all the time, but a lot more moonshine and shitty spirits.
 

A Fish Aficionado

I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
Well, a synthetic THC,Marinol is used for cancer/AIDS patients as an FDA approved drug for nausea and appetite.
 

MilkyJoe

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Oh come on.
Overdosing on THC/cbd can induce psychosis like episodes temporarily and with people with heart dysfunction it might be more intrusive but permanent damage isn't well established.


Not harmless, but not toxic. ODs of opoids is much worse.

After a bong of skunk I was hallucinating that my head was on fire and lava was coming out of the bathroom taps...

never again...
 

BokehKing

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Ugh... I've smoked marijuana for a long time articles like this just makes me roll my eyes

I never, ever had any sign of 'hallucinations' as this anti pot crowd says.
 

rambis

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Aren't the "less natural" versions of THC becoming popular because illegality of regular weed makes it more of a hassle getting the natural and good stuff? "More bang for your buck" seems more logical when you're buying something that's illegal.

It's like with alcohol prohibition, where people wouldn't exactly drink good whisky's all the time, but a lot more moonshine and shitty spirits.
Weed doesn't really work like alcohol in what you're describing.

Also it isn't really more or less "natural". There's huge differences in the quality of the weed you can grow hydroponically and what you grow outside in soil.
 

A Fish Aficionado

I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
Ugh... I've smoked marijuana for a long time articles like this just makes me roll my eyes

I never, ever had any sign of 'hallucinations' as this anti pot crowd says.
I have, but I have also overdosed on prescription meds as a suicide attempt but because of modern pharmacology, it wasn't possible.

Harm =!death.

You can also overdose on water. Quite easily if circumstances prevail, especially with drugs, even if they are non toxic.


Edit: I'm all for the legalization of pot and the non criminalization of drugs in general. It's a medical issue.
 
Uh, is UK slang different? Because the designations of skunk and hash as used in the article are nonsensical as I understand them. The idea that Hash would be inherently lower in THC is stupid, considering it's by definition a concentrate. Also, 15% THC is laughably week compared to what's available now. Commonly available strains at medical dispensaries get way higher than that. Not to mention CBDs have nothing to do with what they're talking about. They're another cannabinoid with varying effects, not an "antidote" to THC. And they're only beginning to understand what the different cannabinoids do, whereas in the past the emphasis was always put on THC.

Also, I love the methodology of getting some uptight old non-smokers stoned in a laboratory setting, and putting them in a claustrophobic setting with loud noises, lol. Yeah man, it was totally worse than a war zone. And don't get me started on the unsubstantiated crap about psychosis. 25% of all psychosis treated in Britain is associated with "skunk"? Give me a fucking break.

What a horrible article, and what ridiculous methodology.
 

Drek

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Weed doesn't really work like alcohol in what you're describing.

Also it isn't really more or less "natural". There's huge differences in the quality of the weed you can grow hydroponically and what you grow outside in soil.

I'd say it was a pretty apt analogy. Hell, hash is a concentrated form of marijuana already really. Skunk/tarring/whatever are all further processing efforts to maximize the stoned effect just like low grade moonshine that would make a person go blind being far more prevalent during prohibition.

This is what happens when you over regulate anything. People find ways around the regulations but then there are zero protections in place and the distribution/access point is already breaking the law so they've already heading down a slippery moral slope.
 

Easy_D

never left the stone age
Ugh... I've smoked marijuana for a long time articles like this just makes me roll my eyes

I never, ever had any sign of 'hallucinations' as this anti pot crowd says.
What's it like being a lazy unproductive member of society who never get out of your couch? /S
 
So unregulated drugs are becoming more and more unpredictable you say? And these drugs take advantage of people unaware of the dangers of this enhanced potency? God if only there was some way to oversee the kind of THC products being produced in order to limit this kind of public paranoia...
 

MoeDabs

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I'd say it was a pretty apt analogy. Hell, hash is a concentrated form of marijuana already really. Skunk/tarring/whatever are all further processing efforts to maximize the stoned effect just like low grade moonshine that would make a person go blind being far more prevalent during prohibition.

This is what happens when you over regulate anything. People find ways around the regulations but then there are zero protections in place and the distribution/access point is already breaking the law so they've already heading down a slippery moral slope.

Hash concentrate and the hash plant they talk about in the article are not the same thing. There are strains of the plant called hash. Basically the article implies "Skunk Weed" is just the UK slang for decent weed, in the most ridiculous way possible.
 

squarerootofpie

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Ugh... I've smoked marijuana for a long time articles like this just makes me roll my eyes

I never, ever had any sign of 'hallucinations' as this anti pot crowd says.

Maybe if they tried it they'd chill a bit?

Seriously though, this stuff just makes me groan as well, if they even knew how ridiculous they sound.
 
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