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John Harker

Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Just got back from the show.
Haven't been on here all week.

I missed it.

Anyway, my immediate question/concern is this:

What is with the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection?

I searched everywhere/asked tons of people/looked through all my press kit information, and I can't find it anywhere confirming that Metriod Prime Hunters was going to be wi-fi enabled.

All anyone is talking about is Mario Kart DS (which was, and I played it and won, haha), Animal Crossing, and the new Tony Hawk.

What about Hunters?

The Hunters demo was AWSOME and I'm totally stoked for it, very fast and intuitive and much more impressive than our playable demos, but does anyone have it anywhere where it is actually confirmed to be wi-fi enabled? At the show it was only wireless mutliplayer. How can a deathmatch game not be, but I don't know how I feel about it not being in writing yet.

And why is Mario Kart DS only wi-fi compatible with 4 players?
Why only 4???
 
You have? So many? Questions? :)

Anyways...no, it's not going to be playable over the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection. At least, there are no announced plans for it to be, and Nintendo seems to be sticking to the wireless multiplayer only story.

And I don't know why Mario Kart is only 4p online. Maybe latency concerns.
 
mutsu said:
No Wi-Fi for Hunters
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IGN: With multiplayer being Metroid Prime Hunter's focus, and Nintendo's stance on going online with its Nintendo DS software, what can you tell us about the possibility of this game going online?

Kensuke Tanabe: Unfortunately, the game won't support the multiplayer internet function of the Nintendo DS. To do it, it's not that easy and we'd have to build the infrastructure for it to work properly. The timing of the game release and the building of the infrastructure just didn't match. So while it won't be online, multiplayer will still be very very fun.

Noooooooooooooo
That is a HUGE mistake.
Playing it on the showfloor was awsome, I'm not going to have 5 friends with the damn game to play against all the time.
This is foolish, delay the game and add it so people will give a damn.
 
John Harker said:
IGN: With multiplayer being Metroid Prime Hunter's focus, and Nintendo's stance on going online with its Nintendo DS software, what can you tell us about the possibility of this game going online?

Kensuke Tanabe: Unfortunately, the game won't support the multiplayer internet function of the Nintendo DS. To do it, it's not that easy and we'd have to build the infrastructure for it to work properly. The timing of the game release and the building of the infrastructure just didn't match. So while it won't be online, multiplayer will still be very very fun.

Noooooooooooooo
That is a HUGE mistake.
Playing it on the showfloor was awsome, I'm not going to have 5 friends with the damn game to play against all the time.
This is foolish, delay the game and add it so people will give a damn.
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I agree. This game was made for the damn network. Otherwise, whats the point?
 
FYI Mario Kart is 4 player online, but is 8 player otherwise. And from what I hear from E3 it's all running great.

Otherwise I think Nintendo had a list of online games/support ...
 
Can you give some impressions of Mario Kart Online at E3? Did you see any ranking stuff? Which Mario Kart was the handling similar to?
 
Socreges said:
Does playing DS online with Wi-Fi require being in a 'hot spot', or can you do it from home? I can't remember.
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when you are wireless at home your home becomes a hotspot. so both.
 
Confirmed online DS games so far...

-Animal Crossing to Go! (Nintendo)
-Boktai (Konami)
-Bokujou-Monogatari DS 2 (Marvelous Interactive)
-Bomberman DS 2 (Hudson)
-Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow (Konami)
-Contact (Marvelous Interactive)
-Digimon World (Bandai)
-Dynasty Warriors (Koei)
-Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles series (Square Enix)
-Jikkyo Powerful Pro Yakyuu series (Konami)
-Mario Kart DS (Nintendo)
-Mobile Suit Gundam SEED (Bandai)
-Momotaro Dentetsu World (Hudson)
-Professional Wrestling (Spike)
-Rune Factory (Marvelous Interactive)
-Tenchu DS (From Software)
-Tony Hawk's American Wasteland (Activision)
-Ultimate Brain Games DS (TeleGames)
-Ultimate Card Games DS (TeleGames)
-Urusei Yatsura (Marvelous Interactive)
-World Soccer Winning Eleven series (Konami)

-online RPG (Namco)
-online RTS (Marvelous Interactive)


...plus the following publishers are all confirmed to be working on online DS titles...

-2K Games
-Activision
-Atari
-Bandai
-Banpresto
-Buena Vista
-Capcom
-Electronic Arts
-From Software
-Hudson Soft
-KOEI
-Konami
-Majesco Games
-Marvelous Interactive
-Mastiff
-Namco
-Nintendo
-SEGA
-Spike
-Square Enix
-Taito
-Telegames
-THQ
-Ubisoft
-Vivendi Universal
 
Burger said:
when you are wireless at home your home becomes a hotspot. so both.
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Ah, so I need a wireless router? Is that right?

Castlevania is online? Wah?

Is Winning Eleven going to be online for PSP as well?
 
yup wireless router turns your house into a hotspot basically. Can anyone explain how the online stuff on DS works with this gamespy stuff, is that all just built into the cart that the game comes on? did anyone see how you match a game at e3 with mario kart? Or was it just setup already.
 
Socreges said:
Castlevania is online? Wah?
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I don't remember what's different in the sequel, but in Aria you could trade souls. And I was really wishing for a duel mode in Aria.
 
I'm very curious as to what Namco's online RPG is.

Is it MMO, or just multiplayer & online ala PSO?

Is it a Tales game? :)
 
I predict that Hunters will be delayed until late 2005/early 2006 so that WiFi can be added.

Mario Kart only supports four players online because that's what the bandwidth and game engine can handle. Right now, LAN mode is locked at 60 fps and WiFi mode is not, but they are trying to lock in WiFi for 60 fps too before the game is released. Konno-san still says that the local wireless mode is ideal (download play and eight players).
 
SantaCruZer said:
not even top 5.
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Still, being number 6 is still no fucking excuse. It's still moronic to have a game like this & then not have it online!

Can we do a petition or something? I don't know anyone on earth who would want Metroid Prime Hunters w/o online play!

If there was a real FPS announced, it wouldn't matter, but as is, it's a real shame!
 
Drensch said:
What about Advance Wars?
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Yea, this while maybe not in top 5 territory either, is crushingly dissapointing. The online as it rolls out seems very...small.

Metroid Hunters just seems irrelevant without it, so that's probably the larger sin.
 
While we're speaking of wireless lan abilities, does anybody know what's up with the GBA multiplayer games ? Can we play Mario Kart SC with multiple DS connected on WiFi LAN for example ?
 
HooDoo said:
While we're speaking of wireless lan abilities, does anybody know what's up with the GBA multiplayer games ? Can we play Mario Kart SC with multiple DS connected on WiFi LAN for example ?
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DS can only play GBA games in single player mode.
 
Merlin said:
Can you give some impressions of Mario Kart Online at E3? Did you see any ranking stuff? Which Mario Kart was the handling similar to?
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I played it online a few times at E3.
(You win a free Mario Kart stylus if you do :) )

There were no ranking stuff, basically what they did was they had someone in the HQ office in Seattle over a webcam, and you got to talk to them and see them via video as you play vs them and 2 other people at the show. So its 3 people on the showroom floor and 1 in Seattle. Animal Crossing was playable right next to it the same way.

You didnt get to choose a course or a character, it was all random. No menues either.
Other than that, the game ran beautifully. Totally smooth, great framerate, no lag, no negative anything. Reminded me A LOT like Mario Kart 64, played like it too. Not really like Double Dash at all. It was limited, but it was fun. I didn't get to see what all the characters were because you didn't get to choose. They also had 8 player wireless matches set up, and the lines were long for that, it was really popular. The winner of each match got a remote controlled Mario or Yoshi microkart. I got a Mario one :)

So the Wi-Fi will be great, by only 4 players is lame.

And not having Prime wireless is a TRAVISTY because the game was frickin' awsome.
And you can only play that 4 players too, which is dissapointing, but the new characters for it are really cool and unique. First Hunt blows in comparison.
 
John Harker said:
So the Wi-Fi will be great, by only 4 players is lame.
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Wonder if Nintendo is going to tend that way because they can only guarantee it will run smoothly with 4? Also, having 8 in wireless internet would probably up the people dropping out factor something huge.
 
John Harker said:
You didnt get to choose a course or a character, it was all random. No menues either.
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Ugh... sorry, I haven't been following Marikart news, but have they mentioned that you would be able to select your character in the final version? didn't Double Dash LAN limit some sort of selection?
 
I'd like to see how fleshed out the Nintendo online network is. Only a few more months to go.

Oh, and not making Metroid Prime Tournament 2005 online compatible is a big mistake. Perhaps Nintendo is waiting for Metroid Prime Tournament 2006.
 
Spencerr said:
Don't be silly, they very more than likely did this to keep the line moving for the show.
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Yea, thats what I believe.
The beautiful Nintendophile girls working all the booths didn't know ANYTHING other than how to smile and nod, so they werent any help when I asked my multitude of questions on every game I tried.

However, I think the random feature was just to hurry along the long lines because they just wanted you to sit down and go, all they basically kept saying was "Press A, Press A, Press A, Press A" like robots anyway.
I wouldn't worry too much about character selection, just the 4 player garbage.
 
Spencerr said:
Don't be silly, they very more than likely did this to keep the line moving for the show.
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Eh? Didn't MK: DD LAN work like this as well? I think it's to keep people from groaning over others picking the better characters or whatever.
 
mutsu said:
No Wi-Fi for Hunters
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there goes my purchase of this game - i don't know anyone with a DS around here, so its gonna be pretty much useless without internet play if i buy it
 
fallout said:
Eh? Didn't MK: DD LAN work like this as well? I think it's to keep people from groaning over others picking the better characters or whatever.
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But in MK: DD each character had a unique weapon. It would have thrown out the balance since some characters special weapons could be exploited more than others.
 
julls said:
there goes my purchase of this game - i don't know anyone with a DS around here, so its gonna be pretty much useless without internet play if i buy it
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you do realize that there will be a full single player story mode, right?
 
blackadde said:
How hard could it possibly be to implement online for AW? The infrastructure's already there if they're doing other games. :(
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It must be those sweet hi res 2D graphics which must be taking priority at the moment. I still hold hope AW DS will be online.
 
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