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DS...Best System Since SNES?
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Mama Smurf
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Naked Snake said:
For a large part, yes, but not entirely. Castlevania, Kirby, Advance Wars, Nintendogs, Meteos, Yoshi, Mario, Wario Ware, Puyo Pop, Pac-Pix, Feel The Magic, Trace Memory etc are out and some of those games are awesome and others are decent.
If you're willing to import though (and a lot of people are, doesn't cost too mcuh and the DS is region free) then games like Ouendan, Band Bros, Phoenix Wright, Jump Superstars et al really put it in a different league to just US releases.
Still, I'd say it's what's on the horizon (a very very close horizon now) that has people most excited. In fact, it's probably already started with Castlevania and AW.
Himuro said:
Well, I'm mainly referring to a general sophistication that has occurred since the SNES days. I honestly believe that every genre of gaming has improved immeasurably since the SNES period. Well, aside from platformers and puzzle games but that's due more to the volume of releases more than anything else. Sports, action, RPGs, fighting games, etc...they've all made tremendous strides since the 16-bit generation. So, saying the SNES is still the best system just seems absurd in my opinion. The specific current gen console you compare it to is irrelevant.
Jesus, this is so screwed up on so many levels. At the very least:Prine said:
1. Most of the games people are getting excited about are not developed by Nintendo, so I don't see how being a Nintendo fan is related.
2. You're implying that people like the system and its games because they're Nintendo fans, which makes no sense. People become fans of a company because they like the company's games, not the other way around.
But, hey, if it makes you feel superior to isolate this "Nintendo fans" group, go for it.
brandonh83
Banned
I think the SNES and PSX are about equal, but there are games on the SNES that just nudge me in the SNES' direction moreso than the PSX... but it's all just preference.
Congratulations, you've resurrected every system war since the SNES/Genesis days and yet still somehow managed to overlook the obvious answer.
Thanks for playing!
Hint: Maybe there is no objective "best system" that applies to all gamers, but instead, different systems that are better suited for different people for different reasons, including taste and preference?
Thanks for playing!
notwithstanding buddyc's platitudinous waffling, we usually can reach something like consensus on the merits of a game console: i mean, not even a nintendo fan will nowadays claim that the gamecube was much good. so why this total schism of opinion on the ds? from where i'm sitting, there are like two ds games worth any money. and even allowing for tastes less fastidious than mine, ds software is in no way extraordinary. i fear that the overzealous ds bashing of months past has produced an equal and opposite reaction. and i fear that i may in my way have contributed to all of this. i think this thread would be an excellent place to start the healing. you can start by dropping this pretense that the ds library is anything better than adequate.
Instigator
Banned
Perfectly readable to me.
Drohne is still one of the best posters in the gaming forum. I always like how he cuts through the BS like a knife through warm butter.
Drohne is still one of the best posters in the gaming forum. I always like how he cuts through the BS like a knife through warm butter.
Drinky Crow
Banned
Well, it took the DS a whole year to finally get a game I want -- Castlevania DoS, which I'll love *in spite* of all the stylus crap inadequately shoehorned into it.
Still, once again, I hafta laugh given that most of the excitement for the new DS content doesn't revolve around stylus-based "innovation" but the promise of sequels, remakes, franchise characters, and traditional content. Do you smacktards REALLY want a Revolution after all?
Still, once again, I hafta laugh given that most of the excitement for the new DS content doesn't revolve around stylus-based "innovation" but the promise of sequels, remakes, franchise characters, and traditional content. Do you smacktards REALLY want a Revolution after all?
Bluemercury
Member
Instigator said:
The problem is, he always cuts in the same side of fence....
Drinky Crow
Banned
My opinion does equal fact.
Zerodoppler
Member
Drinky Crow said:
This is true. All the non-gamer costumers get is Brain Training: The sequel. The DS getting more support is probably developers playing it safe with the development costs.
Rocket Punch
Member
As per usual Nintendo lets innovation be the hook. The DS innovative features make it stand as a unique system, deservedly or otherwise. Interestingly publishers and gamers come a-knocking. So in that sense Nintendo got it right with the DS.
Drinky Crow
Banned
Hilariously, I've been called a cut-rate drohne with twice the vocabulary and half the literacy on both this forum and OAS. Personally, he seems to read a lot more than me, so I'd hafta give him the literacy nod, although I'd pit my vocabulary against his any ol' day.
Matlock's offended by polysyllabic words, so ignore him. It'll take him HOURS to come up with reasonable monosyllabic approximations for "platitudinous", and that should be more than enough time to get in a few more digs on Nintendo fans without his pedantic whining.
As for "fastidious" and "notwithstanding": WTF. If you can't parse those, GET OUTTA MY FORUM.
Matlock's offended by polysyllabic words, so ignore him. It'll take him HOURS to come up with reasonable monosyllabic approximations for "platitudinous", and that should be more than enough time to get in a few more digs on Nintendo fans without his pedantic whining.
As for "fastidious" and "notwithstanding": WTF. If you can't parse those, GET OUTTA MY FORUM.
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Matlock said:
zuh?
Bluemercury
Member
Prine said:
So Japan=Mostly Nintendo fans???
TheJollyCorner
Member
Just a few of the games SNES had in its first year (US release): Super Mario World, F-Zero, Pilotwings, SimCity, Final Fight, Populous, Final Fantasy II (IV), ActRaiser, Super Castlevania IV, Contra III, Super Ghouls and Ghosts, The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, Gradius III, Super Mario Kart... just to name a few.
Does DS's first year objectively match that as far as new products go? It's also worth mentioning that most of these titles were 'the best anyone had ever seen' at the time.
I'd say no.
Does DS's first year objectively match that as far as new products go? It's also worth mentioning that most of these titles were 'the best anyone had ever seen' at the time.
I'd say no.
I'm not a Nintendo Fan specifically, as I owned all three systems this generation, but though there is an almost complete lack of releases at the moment, and I am not happy about the console life and lack of substantial third party support and online, I have many games for my Gamecube I enjoy, SSBM, Pikmin 1&2, Prime 1&2, Crystal Chronicles and Four Swords though not for everyone is great fun in parties, Killer 7, Ikaruga, Resident Evil 4, REmake, Paper Mario, Timesplitters 2, and Windwaker. I invested alot of time in my Cube with friends for party games, and working through adventure games. I would say that the PS2 had more games to choose from, and maybe even had more total good games, but I don't think that means the Cube is a bad system, merely at this point not supported and stagnating on developement except for a few new titles. That being said I have 6 Games for the DS and Nintendogs however you feel like classifying it, and today I get two more. Of the games I own, I feel Lost in Blue, Nanostray, WarioWare Touched, Mario 64 DS, and Feel the Magic seem games I really enjoy and play on a regular basis, and I would recommend to others. Based on the impressions of the two I am getting today, Castlevania, and Trauma Center: Under the Knife, it seems they will join my regular rotation. I feel it's brash to say that the DS
has surpassed the SNES, but I certainly think it's outlook and library have been getting better and better, and to say that a person could find at most 2 games to appreciate or else they are a raging fan boy is an equally brash statement. The DS library is pretty substantial, and though I can understand people not liking even some of the games I enjoy, but I am sure everyone could find titles they would enjoy on the system if they were really open to looking.
has surpassed the SNES, but I certainly think it's outlook and library have been getting better and better, and to say that a person could find at most 2 games to appreciate or else they are a raging fan boy is an equally brash statement. The DS library is pretty substantial, and though I can understand people not liking even some of the games I enjoy, but I am sure everyone could find titles they would enjoy on the system if they were really open to looking.
krypt0nian
Banned
Cheebs said:
This......is why people laugh at extreme Nintendo boys and girls.