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DS software sales to date (Japan, up to Jul 2, Media Create)

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Raw64life

Member
All the numbers not listed in the first post in order of sales for the lazy...

Naruto RPG 2 135,000
Another Code (Trace Memory) 125,000
Harvest Moon: Colobockle Station 123,000
Feel the Magic XY/XX 118,000
Harvest Moon: Colobockle Station for Girls 105,000
Bleach 94,000
Egg Monster Hero 93,000
Digimon Story 80,000
Rockman EXE 5 77,000
Metroid Prime Hunters 66,000
Ouendan 59,000
Advance Wars 48,000
Biohazard 43,000
Fullmetal Alchemist 38,000
Castlevania 33,000
Xenosaga I+II 32,000
Lost in Blue 31,000
The Rub Rabbits 25,000
Contact 23,000
Metal Saga 21,000
Lost Magic 20,000
Lunar 20,000
Trauma Center 15,000
Magical Vacation 2 19,000
Viewtiful Joe 12,000
Tao 3000
 
C

cvxfreak

Member
Jiggy37 said:
How are these percentages derived? It's probably too much to hope for that they've figured out a way to determine who owns both a DS and a DS Lite (and then adjust the numbers accordingly), but eh, thought I'd ask.
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You take the total amount of DS systems sold, and you do the math. Simple. It's impossible, nor practical to actually fish out repeat demand. It's been noted before in the PS2's case, but that's as far as it goes.
 
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apujanata

Member
I remember that there was a Doraemon 2006 game, released on March 2, 2006. I don't know the actual name of the game, and the publisher. Perhaps you have the sales data ? If you have the data, can you please post the name of the game and the publisher ?

By March 19, 2006, Famitsu have the # of sales as : 30,052.
 
M

MrSardonic

The nerdiest nerd of all the nerds in nerdland
Jonnyram said:
1. Nintendo 21,254,889 (41)
2. Pokemon 1,992,774 (4)
3. Bandai 1,758,100 (13)
4. Sega 716,407 (15)
5. Square Enix 646,622 (3)
6. Konami 531,067 (11)
7. Tomy 370,331 (3)
8. Namco 326,440 (7)
9. MMV 315,425 (8)
10. Capcom 286,854 (5)
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i find this information quite revealing when looked at with Jonnyram's first post.

The best 4 selling Nintendo games account for ~47% of all their software sales. Among these titles is a NSMB (the return of a successful formula - 2D Mario), ACWW (the return of a 1m+ seller but built around the DS interface), and two BT games (a new franchise). So really only one new idea from 41 released games has resulted into 2m+ sales.

The combined sales of Nintendo's 1m+ sellers (8 games) account for ~72% of all their software sales. Among these games you find only Nintendogs and the "Training" series as new IPs. Amazingly, the sales of games that are part of these new IPs account for ~42% (5 games) of all Nintendo's software sales.

Nintendo, in contrast to just about every other publisher, appears to be taking a different approach to developing DS software. Obviously there will be the fact that they are largely providing good use of their interface in their titles, but given the number of games released it appears that Nintendo are quite content to publisher many titles in the hope that some of the new IPs will take-off and absorb the costs of the "failed experiments" that bomb. If dev costs were high then this approach to business (well established in other industries) would be far more risky...and I just wonder if other publishers are still employing the more conservative business strategy that they have been used to for home-console development.
 
G

Galactic Fork

A little fluff between the ears never did any harm...
First, isn't the Pokemon company just Nintendo? Do we really consider it a third party?

Secondly, I'm surprised how badly Advance Wars sold. It did +200k in the US. Of course it's a fairly new here. Still, 50k sucks.

Third, no wonder Atlus is so happy Trauma center is up to ~80k in the US... 15,000?

Finally, I hope Contact sells well in the US. Lost magic even doubled its japanese sales here. Maybe Contact will do better.
 
I

ioi

Banned
Not a million miles away on the whole from what I have:

http://www.vgcharts.org/japtotals.php?console=DS&maker=&name=

Bear in mind that this chart ends 3 weeks later, and also that I scale up my games by around 3-4% (as I think MC/Fam report them a little low on the safe side), and some of my data is based on 'guesses' for want of a better word.

Cheers for the data Jonnyram, will update any differences.
 
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nubbe

Member
GreenGlowingGoo said:
First, isn't the Pokemon company just Nintendo? Do we really consider it a third party?
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The Pokemon Company is owned partially by Nintendo and two other companies Game Freak and Creatures Inc. which has majority holdings.

Then there are also minority holders like 4Kids Entertainment.

So Pokemon Corp is not a Nintendo company.
 
S

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
So, I guess Rub Rabbits was the disappointment of the generation sales wise. I enjoyed it; it was everything that Feel the Magic was and more. I guess Feel the Magic as a series is quirky enough that it's not really going to ring up big numbers, and Feel the Magic as a game sold well because it was a launch title, but those are some HARSH Rub Rabbits numbers.

Does anyone have a US LTD on FTM / TRR?
 
D

donny2112

Member
Jonnyram said:
1. Nintendo 21,254,889 (41)
2. Pokemon 1,992,774 (4)
3. Bandai 1,758,100 (13)
4. Sega 716,407 (15)
5. Square Enix 646,622 (3)
6. Konami 531,067 (11)
7. Tomy 370,331 (3)
8. Namco 326,440 (7)
9. MMV 315,425 (8)
10. Capcom 286,854 (5)
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That's 110 games with 56 already translated (30 in original post + 26 additional). Could you possibly scan the booklet and post it here? There were enough people willing to attempt translations to do all of Famitsu's Top 500 games for 2005, so maybe the same people would be willing to do the translations for those?

Thanks for sharing, regardless! :D
 
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LOcKY

Member
i think if publishers werent so crappy on their estimates they might have sold much more, i mean capcom under shipping phoenix wright and konami seem to be refusing to print more copies of castlevania.

Its their own fault really, also capcom and their crappy efforts is disturbing. Arent most of their DS games more or less ports anyway?

Theres a saying "put the effort in and you will be rewarded otherwise dont expcet amazing results by being lazy".
 
J

jj984jj

He's a pretty swell guy in my books anyway.
gconsole said:
I can see why Capcom increase their support on PSP :p
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I'm sure they have a much better average with the ~10 games they released on PSP...
 
A

AdmiralViscen

Banned
For all the whining about nongames destroying the industry, only half of DS owners own one. And that's assuming that 0 people own both Brain Age and Brain Age 2.
 
D

Deleted member 1235

Unconfirmed Member
Jonnyram said:
Metroid Prime Hunters 66,000
Advance Wars 48,000
Feel the Magic XY/XX 118,143
The Rub Rabbits 25,000
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why is this number not 1000000?!

best damn game ever.
 
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LanceStern

Banned
Advance Wars was never popular in Japan, but the franchise seems to be losing fans.

In the US with the GBA, both titles sold about 400,000+ units

Now it's down to 200,000 on the DS, but the sales for it in Japan went up. For GBA I don't even think AW broke 25,000
 
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cvxfreak

Member
LanceStern said:
Advance Wars was never popular in Japan, but the franchise seems to be losing fans.

In the US with the GBA, both titles sold about 400,000+ units

Now it's down to 200,000 on the DS, but the sales for it in Japan went up. For GBA I don't even think AW broke 25,000
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But in Japan, AWDS was Famicom Wars DS, which was, last I heard, a fairly popular series there.
 
Tornado Condor

Tornado Condor

Member
LanceStern said:
Advance Wars was never popular in Japan, but the franchise seems to be losing fans.

In the US with the GBA, both titles sold about 400,000+ units

Now it's down to 200,000 on the DS, but the sales for it in Japan went up. For GBA I don't even think AW broke 25,000
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damn wtf. this is ruining changes of us getting an Advance Wars online :(
 
J

jj984jj

He's a pretty swell guy in my books anyway.
cvxfreak said:
But in Japan, AWDS was Famicom Wars DS, which was, last I heard, a fairly popular series there.
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Famicom Wars was popular on the NES/SNES.
 
A

A Link to the Past

Banned
It's not like >250k is that bad, especially when it launched in Japan and sold better than the GBA games (apparently), and launched in North America before the DS really took off. If it was delayed to October, it could have done better.
 
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Deleted member 1235

Unconfirmed Member
LanceStern said:
Now it's down to 200,000 on the DS, but the sales for it in Japan went up. For GBA I don't even think AW broke 25,000
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Surely that was because it launched when the user base was smaller than the GBA or something?

/blatant awars fanboy grasping at flimsy straws :(
 
G

Galactic Fork

A little fluff between the ears never did any harm...
LanceStern said:
Advance Wars was never popular in Japan, but the franchise seems to be losing fans.

In the US with the GBA, both titles sold about 400,000+ units

Now it's down to 200,000 on the DS, but the sales for it in Japan went up. For GBA I don't even think AW broke 25,000
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You also have to take into consideration the number of people with GBAs when AW 1 and 2 were released. The DS hadn't even been released a year when it came out.
 
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mutsu

Member
Jonny, where did you get this book?

Third party sales on the DS isn't really as bad as it seems. Square-Enix is definitely doing well. Can't wait to see how much Final Fantasy 3 sells.
 
L

LM4sure

Banned
That's pretty funny to see the disparity between Nintendo/Pokemon games and other companies. So basically the only company that is succeeding with the DS is Nintendo.

I would like to see comparisons with PSP titles. Publishers might actually be doing better with the PSP.
 
S

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
LM4sure said:
That's pretty funny to see the disparity between Nintendo/Pokemon games and other companies. So basically the only company that is succeeding with the DS is Nintendo.

I would like to see comparisons with PSP titles. Publishers might actually be doing better with the PSP.
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Oh my. Plenty of companies are succeeding with the DS; not every game is going to sell 500,000 copies. Some games make a profit when they sell 20,000. Publishers are doing ok with the PSP as well, although in general even third party titles are doing better on the DS in Japan.

... and this has already been shown about ten thousand times in all previous handheld threads.
 
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Jonnyram

Member
Meteos 59,000

Bear in mind that this chart ends 3 weeks later, and also that I scale up my games by around 3-4% (as I think MC/Fam report them a little low on the safe side), and some of my data is based on 'guesses' for want of a better word.
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So, your guessing would account for the fact that a lot of the games on your list have lower figures than either MC or Famitsu currently reports?
 
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Jonnyram

Member
Rakubiki Jiten 58,000
Kanji sonomama Rakubiki Jiten 116,000

Tabi no Yubisashi DS:
Thailand 18,000
China 29,000
Korea 34,000
America 46,000
Germany 6000 (Schade...)
 
J

jj984jj

He's a pretty swell guy in my books anyway.
Goemon
Castlevania DoS
Lost in Blue
Trauma Center
Kenshuui Tendo Dokuta
Kenshuui Tendo Dokuta 2
Zoo Keeper
Feel the Magic XX/XY
Puyo Puyo Fever
Yoshi's Touch And Go
Yakuman
 
M

mutsu

Member
Jonnyram said:
Rakubiki Jiten 58,000
Kanji sonomama Rakubiki Jiten 116,000
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Thanks Jonny. :) Wow these sold much much much more than I expected. I remember Rakubiki Jiten sold what, 6,000 copies in the first week or something.

Kanji sonomama version is definitely selling really well... I really want to get one too, but I got Rakubiki Jiten already and I feel ripped off to have to buy a second one, just for the kanji recognition... :(
 
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