radioheadrule83
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DS Web Browser on the way?
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Handheld web browsing sucks.
PSP takes too long to draw the screen, a lot of net code doesn't work (i.e. you can't post on gaf) and you don't have a keyboard attachment.
So DS would definitely have one of those features done well (I would hope), and that would be "keyboard" (they can do the palm-type writing on the touch screen). Problem is the resolution would be much worse than PSP, it won't be able to perform better than psp for screen drawing and you won't be able to surf/post on gaf still.
So what they should do instead is create an email applet, because email would be awesome on the DS!
PSP takes too long to draw the screen, a lot of net code doesn't work (i.e. you can't post on gaf) and you don't have a keyboard attachment.
So DS would definitely have one of those features done well (I would hope), and that would be "keyboard" (they can do the palm-type writing on the touch screen). Problem is the resolution would be much worse than PSP, it won't be able to perform better than psp for screen drawing and you won't be able to surf/post on gaf still.
So what they should do instead is create an email applet, because email would be awesome on the DS!
I can post here with my DS as well, in fact I did that on another forum to test it. Used a little homebrew app called Win2DS, which lets you control your PC via Wifi on your DS. You get a little snapshot of your PC screen on the bottom DS screen and can then use the stylus as mouse. Has a virtual keyboard for typing, pretty easy to use.
fly high ~ayunite~
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nine words said:
The instruction manual on that FFC site didn't mention anything about a browser so it's unlikely.
Boards of Canada
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Why would you want a web browser on a DS or PSP?
fly high ~ayunite~
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Boards of Canada said:
Exactly what I was thinking. Portable internet as it is now, sucks.
OK. I've done both Dreamcast and PSP web browsing.
Resolution is the biggest factor. Both the above are pretty bad for it. PSP can re-scale the webpage but it takes a bit to draw it re-scaled, so it becomes annoying.
Now both the above (which sucked) had much better screen resolution than DS.
This would be a waste of development when email would be so much better.
Resolution is the biggest factor. Both the above are pretty bad for it. PSP can re-scale the webpage but it takes a bit to draw it re-scaled, so it becomes annoying.
Now both the above (which sucked) had much better screen resolution than DS.
This would be a waste of development when email would be so much better.
evilromero
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Because some of us don't have laptops. I'm at the cafe every morning preparing for lectures and such. After that I'm on campus until about 10pm, sometimes later. I don't get a chance to walk over to the library and use a public pc. Further, I'd rather not carry around laptop. It'd be one more thing to burden me. This would make a fine way to just check on news and updates. Not all of us live at home.Boards of Canada said:
Azure Dream
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I'd love to be able to hop on a quick hotspot without dragging out a laptop, and double-check CAG or my collection if I'm going out game buying. (Especially now that the DS Lite will be even more portable than the original model was.) It wouldn't be something to use every day, but it could fit for some handy functions, and really, you'd be shocked at how many open WiFi access points there are all around, especially when you're talking about more commercial or downtown areas.
You know, I really think Play-Yan should be repackaged for the US as more of a gateway to a utility suite. Music and video playback still, but more of a focus on playing back programs from the SD-cards. That way, browser updates could be released and reflash your existing browser copy without a problem. (Otherwise, updating the thing would prove to be a challenge.) They might add in a couple of other wanted features as part of a selling point (downloaded to an SD card means a fairly sizeable chunk of storage space for e-mail, or handwritten notes, or small lists or DBs, or what have you), an option to download updates via WFC... really, with some clever packaging and a bit of software writing, the DS would be capable of so many things thanks to the number of buttons, dual screens, touch screen interface, and mic. I'm not trying to be fanboyish about it, it's just that, ironically, the DS seems like something that could be more of a tool suite than the PSP, yet so far the roles are reversed.
You know, I really think Play-Yan should be repackaged for the US as more of a gateway to a utility suite. Music and video playback still, but more of a focus on playing back programs from the SD-cards. That way, browser updates could be released and reflash your existing browser copy without a problem. (Otherwise, updating the thing would prove to be a challenge.) They might add in a couple of other wanted features as part of a selling point (downloaded to an SD card means a fairly sizeable chunk of storage space for e-mail, or handwritten notes, or small lists or DBs, or what have you), an option to download updates via WFC... really, with some clever packaging and a bit of software writing, the DS would be capable of so many things thanks to the number of buttons, dual screens, touch screen interface, and mic. I'm not trying to be fanboyish about it, it's just that, ironically, the DS seems like something that could be more of a tool suite than the PSP, yet so far the roles are reversed.
I maintain that an Instant Message service for the DS would send sales sky-rocketing. People would buy them as alternatives to mobile phones for txt'ing, and with added voice-clip sending and whatnot, the DS gains a MASSIVE new purpose.
Pictochat as it is, is utterly worthless.
Pictochat as it is, is utterly worthless.
Some of us don't have PSPs
Some of us think PSPs are just even more portable DVD players that don't have a good game selection outside of Liberty City Stories and Lumines.
I would love to see the DS get a web browser. The only thing they would have to fix, as already mentioned, is screen resolution issues. That might make it futile to even attempt to make one, but still, it would be awesome.
Wow, with all the stuff that uses wireless now, it makes me glad that I invested in some wireless routers.
Some of us think PSPs are just even more portable DVD players that don't have a good game selection outside of Liberty City Stories and Lumines.
I would love to see the DS get a web browser. The only thing they would have to fix, as already mentioned, is screen resolution issues. That might make it futile to even attempt to make one, but still, it would be awesome.
Wow, with all the stuff that uses wireless now, it makes me glad that I invested in some wireless routers.
Traumahound
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I think a web browser could work well on the DS. The bottom screen could be a zoomed out view of the web page overlaid with a square representing the top screen. That square could be dragged around with the stylus showing a zoomed in view on the top screen.
I don't know, I'm pretty hard pressed to bother using my PSP as a web browser, and that's at a decent enough resolution to handle it. With the DS, the resolution would be way too much of a hurdle for me to be able to use it. The input might be cool, but bleh.
I mean, if you need a wifi spot, it isn't THAT portable. By then I'd use my iBook. Now, if it connected to a cell network and could access the net anywhere at my convenience, then it'd be a killer feature (for a month or two--how quickly my brother got bored with his sidekick is evidence of that).
I mean, if you need a wifi spot, it isn't THAT portable. By then I'd use my iBook. Now, if it connected to a cell network and could access the net anywhere at my convenience, then it'd be a killer feature (for a month or two--how quickly my brother got bored with his sidekick is evidence of that).
sonycowboy
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its great for browsing gaf. it sucks for posting.
(psp post)
(psp post)
radioheadrule83
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Whoever is doing it, they should do something like this:
Obviously the GSM functionality wouldn't be there, unless they brought out a GBA cart that changed your DS into a cellphone or something, but everything else would be doable.
For the browsing, they should use something like this if at all possible:
using L&R to zoom in and out of a rendered page, with the touch screen for actually using it/clicking links etc. OR they should just flat out have it pull up WML or something, which requires lower res anyway.
The notes application and other things could use the same kind of handwriting recognition thats been exhibited on DS already. They could add a DSpeak type application:
So you could communicate with people on your friends list.
None of this of course, is going to happen ;_; ... but it sounds like something will.
Obviously the GSM functionality wouldn't be there, unless they brought out a GBA cart that changed your DS into a cellphone or something, but everything else would be doable.
For the browsing, they should use something like this if at all possible:
using L&R to zoom in and out of a rendered page, with the touch screen for actually using it/clicking links etc. OR they should just flat out have it pull up WML or something, which requires lower res anyway.
The notes application and other things could use the same kind of handwriting recognition thats been exhibited on DS already. They could add a DSpeak type application:
So you could communicate with people on your friends list.
None of this of course, is going to happen ;_; ... but it sounds like something will.
Drinky Crow
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BUY A PSP
A Link to the Past
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Man, the DS Lite better have online PictoChat.
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or a ds and 4 games.Drinky Crow said:
WHAT TO DO.
golduck342
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radioheadrule83 said:For the browsing, they should use something like this if at all possible:
That's seriously one of my favorite features in photoshop.
Full bown web access is idiotic. There's really no need for it. But if Nintendo wants to put their weight behind PDA style internet features, they could do a number of things, including making a picto chat service that is Wi-Fi compatible, and have specific game hubs designed for browsing on the DS to be accessible through the DS browser.
A Link to the Past
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Fuzzy said:
It better.
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-jinx- said:
Mine doesn't appear to have that option, what's it like?
I <3 Katamari
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Drinky Crow said:
I did!
But I can't put down my DS.
Drinky Crow
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what the DS needs is decent hardware and actual good games
I <3 Katamari
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Drinky Crow said:
Decent hardware would be nice. I agree!
But good games???!?!? You silly goose, I have like 15!
emomoonbase
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If they could port trillian to the DS and give it an email client and a basic browser I'd be a happy camper.
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emomoonbase said:
See the thing with hoping for things like that is that it's impossible to guarantee that everything would work right all the time, which is why that would only happen on homebrew, which has a user base of like 3 dudes on DS unfortunately.
My dream for what DS Lite would have had upgraded about it: online Pictochat, or even better, full IM client like AIM. Simple calendar options. Address book. Notes. Calculator.
I'm really shocked that nobody has released even some level of a "PDA office suite" type of thing for it at this point. Especially for Japanese teenagers, I bet they'd love stuff like an address book, notes, maybe an option to save pictures to the DS to show to friends, etc. There are a lot of print club machines now that can transmit the photos directly to a keitai - Nintendo could work with one of the companies to offer the feature to download the photos wirelessly to a DS. Or what about electronic business cards (thought not for actual business folk) that could be traded from DS to DS? Yeah, sure, your typical Japanese cell phone does a lot of that already, but there would still be a market for it.
I'm not saying make the DS a full-on PDA, but there is a lot of interesting stuff that could be done, especially now that more and more non-gamers are buying them.
I'm really shocked that nobody has released even some level of a "PDA office suite" type of thing for it at this point. Especially for Japanese teenagers, I bet they'd love stuff like an address book, notes, maybe an option to save pictures to the DS to show to friends, etc. There are a lot of print club machines now that can transmit the photos directly to a keitai - Nintendo could work with one of the companies to offer the feature to download the photos wirelessly to a DS. Or what about electronic business cards (thought not for actual business folk) that could be traded from DS to DS? Yeah, sure, your typical Japanese cell phone does a lot of that already, but there would still be a market for it.
I'm not saying make the DS a full-on PDA, but there is a lot of interesting stuff that could be done, especially now that more and more non-gamers are buying them.
Spiritreaver
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It is, at least for me, because I honestly don't give a jack how a page displays at a low resolution. No one should walk into this expecting some kind of PC on the go experience. But I don't need a fully featured and capable web browser and a monitor with higher resolutiosn just to view a block of text from a newspaper article, or a post on a forum. Hell, I've used one of those text only browsers that some cell phones have and it worked for me. I was able to read and gather the information I wanted without much issue. Sure isn't the best way to browse the internet, but it's sure convenient for when I can't seem to access my computer for whatever reason.-jinx- said:
If it saves me the trouble of twiddling my thumsb while the PCs at my home are occupied, so I can check a few quick things and be content, I'm happy. I don't see any issue for having web browsers on any small resolution device, as long as people have a practical use for them.
The original GameBoy had something called the "WorkBoy" which had a keyboard attachment and mounting system that turned GameBoy into a launguage/currency/timezone translator, calculator, note taker, calender, dictionary, day planner, amoungst other things. The NDS *needs* something like this to give it even broader appeal. A cart that had all those things WorkBoy had, plus maybe Play-Yan functions as well as online WFC PictoChat and maybe something set-up with My Nintendo so you could post at their forums, look at your account stuff, check out online stats, reviews, previews & news as well as download demos/extras would be awesome. No need for e-mail or chat capabilities 'cos Nintendo would have to deal with outside companies/problems and PictoChat already takes care of that really.
I'm gonna look up that old post I made about the WorkBoy and see if I can't dig up some pics.
I'm gonna look up that old post I made about the WorkBoy and see if I can't dig up some pics.
