Support NeoGAF

[Diseased Yak]

Would be cool if this turns out to be true, as it's pretty much my only gripe with existing DualSense controllers.

Polish site is saying that the new PS5 DualSense revision, called DualSense v3 behind the scenes, will have a removable battery and consume a whopping 3% less electricity.

Wouldn't help existing owners, especially those of us with DualSense Edge that have an even smaller battery, but still, it's a good move imo.

(first saw this on Push Square, and I searched but didn't see a topic on it yet)

 

[Buhaj]

It is a new PS5 Pro version that is supposed to consume less electricity and not the pad, based on the article. PPE is known for posting any shit they hear so take it with a grain of salt.

 

[Diseased Yak]

It is a new PS5 Pro version that is supposed to consume less electricity and not the pad, based on the article. PPE is known for posting any shit they hear so take it with a grain of salt.

Oops, my bad, misread the translated article!

 

[EverydayBeast]

Everyone wants better battery life with game controllers, luckily with Xbox you can swap out AA batteries.

 

[xrnzaaas]

Hall sticks is the major change Dualsense should be getting, but of course controllers would stop selling in such high numbers if that happened.

Still, removable batteries is a good idea. I like to have options and sometimes it's nice to play several long sessions without recharging like on the Xbox.

 

[Neolombax]

If they have Hall effect thumbsticks, its a buy for me.

 

[Ellis]

I'd rather have a four battery life than have to stick AA batteries into my controller like I'm back in 1992 playing on my Game Gear.

Buy the time you buy decent rechargeable AA's and a charger, you're adding another £20 on to the controller price itself.

 

[lh032]

Sony: u ain't getting hall effect or tmr sticks over my dead body

 

[Felessan]

I'd rather have a four battery life than have to stick AA batteries into my controller like I'm back in 1992 playing on my Game Gear.

Buy the time you buy decent rechargeable AA's and a charger, you're adding another £20 on to the controller price itself.

I doubt that it will have AA batteries as there is just not place for them
It'll be removable accum as per EU regulation with same capacitity for easy replacement/utilization

 

[Ovek]

Sony: u ain't getting hall effect or tmr sticks over my dead body

Good lord no, they will cost $0.05 in bulk more than the shit they stick in them now... will some please think of the share holders.

 

[KungFucius]

I'd rather have a four battery life than have to stick AA batteries into my controller like I'm back in 1992 playing on my Game Gear.

Buy the time you buy decent rechargeable AA's and a charger, you're adding another £20 on to the controller price itself.

Sorry but this is fucking ignorant. It is a design choice that gives the user options. What do you do when your PS5 controller is out of juice and you want to play 2 player, hook up a short USB cable and play on the floor like its 1985?

Removable battery packs that actually provide more than 8 hours of playtime is an option I would choose over the PS5. I have kids and it is hard to get them to remember to put the controller on the charger. It is a superior engineering solution because you can buy a charging kit if you are so narrow minded and fanboy biased that you can't see that there is an obvious advantage.

My PS5 controllers are hooked up to my PS5. The system then sleeps for months. The controllers often have less than full charge when a game finally comes out that I want to play and it kind of sucks.

 

[Topher]

Sorry but this is fucking ignorant. It is a design choice that gives the user options. What do you do when your PS5 controller is out of juice and you want to play 2 player, hook up a short USB cable and play on the floor like its 1985?

Removable battery packs that actually provide more than 8 hours of playtime is an option I would choose over the PS5. I have kids and it is hard to get them to remember to put the controller on the charger. It is a superior engineering solution because you can buy a charging kit if you are so narrow minded and fanboy biased that you can't see that there is an obvious advantage.

My PS5 controllers are hooked up to my PS5. The system then sleeps for months. The controllers often have less than full charge when a game finally comes out that I want to play and it kind of sucks.

Wow.....it's been a while since I've seen someone get this triggered over someone else's preferred controller battery design.

 

[Bartski]

I did mod my dualsense edge with hals. No going back. Resolving battery life issue would make it literally the perfect controller.

 

[Ellis]

Sorry but this is fucking ignorant. It is a design choice that gives the user options. What do you do when your PS5 controller is out of juice and you want to play 2 player, hook up a short USB cable and play on the floor like its 1985?

Removable battery packs that actually provide more than 8 hours of playtime is an option I would choose over the PS5. I have kids and it is hard to get them to remember to put the controller on the charger. It is a superior engineering solution because you can buy a charging kit if you are so narrow minded and fanboy biased that you can't see that there is an obvious advantage.

My PS5 controllers are hooked up to my PS5. The system then sleeps for months. The controllers often have less than full charge when a game finally comes out that I want to play and it kind of sucks.

Christ. It's a view on not wanting removable fucking batteries. What's with the cringe bullshit. No need for it.

 

[Boss Mog]

The improvement that everybody wants is hall sticks, the rest is irrelevant if there's no hall sticks.

 

[Nephryte]

Oh please , no

 

[IbizaPocholo]

 

[SkylineRKR]

Both sides have some things correct. Having both Xbox and PS, the truth lies in the middle I think.

Flat out I prefer MS' approach. But not for the AA batteries, rather for the play n charge kit. The downside of this is that its an extra purchase.

But with it, the controllers life is much longer than that of the DualSense, and if you store it away or don't use it for a while you can just remove it from the controller. And in a bind, yes, you can insert AA's and continue wireless. Though the cord on the play charge is also about twice as long as the DualSense pack in cord.

The DualSense battery is pathetic, esp. that of my Edge. I can't just remove the battery so it means this controller will likely cease to power up one day. I still have PS3 controllers running reasonably well, but in retrospect it would've been good to have the Xbox solution on those. Its hard to find good performing DS3's these days... its a lottery if you buy them because of Sony's solution. Unless the veil on BC is lifted and everything is playable, I kind of like to have this console around.

 

[PixelatedBeast]

Ther arguement against Sony's battery solution is starting to sound like the issue people had with using a screw driver to install an SSD, lol. You can easily replace the battery for another from Amazon, or you can even upgrade it for a battery with a higher capacity. If you're on PC and use a Dualsense, you'll have to connect the USB cable anyway.

The only thing in my house that uses AA batteries is the TV remote. Rechargable Lithium-Ion batteries ARE more environmentally friendly...

 

[Metnut]

As long as it charges easily via the PS5. If i need to keep buying energizer batteries or get some stupid special batteries that need a special charging station ill be irate.

 

[user friendly]

Sorry but this is fucking ignorant. It is a design choice that gives the user options. What do you do when your PS5 controller is out of juice and you want to play 2 player, hook up a short USB cable and play on the floor like its 1985?

Removable battery packs that actually provide more than 8 hours of playtime is an option I would choose over the PS5. I have kids and it is hard to get them to remember to put the controller on the charger. It is a superior engineering solution because you can buy a charging kit if you are so narrow minded and fanboy biased that you can't see that there is an obvious advantage.

My PS5 controllers are hooked up to my PS5. The system then sleeps for months. The controllers often have less than full charge when a game finally comes out that I want to play and it kind of sucks.

What is the difference of having to keep the battery pack charged vs having to keep other controllers charged? I think most people have more than one controller. You dont need to plug the cable into the ps5 to charge either. You can just as easily connect it to a laptop on the coffee table if you had to.

2 controllers are always on the charging dock. I would rather that than buying a single use charging pack for a device that is always in the same room. I could see the benefit if you took it to out to a friends house and could just swap it out when one died but just buy a little power bank that can be used to charge your phone as well.

It would have been nice for Sony to put a longer lasting battery pack in it though.

 

[DarkShadowXI]

Definitely prefer having a dock and two controllers to swap between than having AA batteries around. Nice try, Big Duracell.

 

[Topher]

Ther arguement against Sony's battery solution is starting to sound like the issue people had with using a screw driver to install an SSD, lol. You can easily replace the battery for another from Amazon, or you can even upgrade it for a battery with a higher capacity. If you're on PC and use a Dualsense, you'll have to connect the USB cable anyway.

The only thing in my house that uses AA batteries is the TV remote. Rechargable Lithium-Ion batteries ARE more environmentally friendly...

Replacing the battery is not comparable to installing an SSD.



And the quality of the replacement battery you get from Amazon is a crap shoot. The one I got would not charge until the battery was completely out of juice. So I had to play it until it died and then charge it.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

AA batteries should be standard. You can get rechargeable batteries for insanely cheap and it shouldn't even be investment who the fuck doesn't already own rechargeable batteries in 2025

 

[CrimsonTide]

AA batteries should be standard. You can get rechargeable batteries for insanely cheap and it shouldn't even be investment who the fuck doesn't already own rechargeable batteries in 2025

I been yelling bout this for ages with PS controllers.

1 pair of AA batteries will last me months on my Xbox controller which I use for PC gaming.

My Dualsense won't hardly make it 1 Saturday night session. Pitiful

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

I been yelling bout this for ages with PS controllers.

1 pair of AA batteries will last me months on my Xbox controller which I use for PC gaming.

My Dualsense won't hardly make it 1 Saturday night session. Pitiful

I love the switch pro controller but I've always needed 2, where one is constantly charging so I can swap them. Xbox controller I've only needed 1

 

[CrimsonTide]

I love the switch pro controller but I've always needed 2, where one is constantly charging so I can swap them. Xbox controller I've only needed 1

Xbox controllers never die, not sure what sorcery they use, but they keep it to themselves lol

 

[RoboFu]

So replaceable barriers are good now?

 

[CrimsonTide]

So replaceable barriers are good now?

To me they are never NOT good

Wish Apple would do it for their phones too, make everyones life easier.

 

[rm082e]

I have my PS and PC at a desk with a monitor, so I just keep my controllers wired at all times. But I definitely prefer AA batteries so I can use good quality rechargeables.

 

[Hari Seldon]

I charge my switch pro controllers like once every 2 months. I don't understand why PS5 controllers are like a few hours.

 

[Topher]

So replaceable barriers are good now?

Folks have been advocating replaceable batteries for years here on GAF. Of course, you know that

 

[RoboFu]

Folks have been advocating replaceable batteries for years here on GAF. Of course, you know that

Yeah , but not everyone and you know who they are and why.

 

[adamsapple]

So replaceable barriers are good now?

They were always good. As long as the option of batteries or a pack is available to the user.

 

[Topher]

Yeah , but not everyone and you know who they are and why.

You mean like the folks who buy 8bitdo, Nintendo Pro, Xbox Elite, Dualsense and the plethora of PC controllers with built in batteries like my Razer? Ok. And?

 

[Topher]

I charge my switch pro controllers like once every 2 months. I don't understand why PS5 controllers are like a few hours.

My guess is because it isn't powering a touchpad, triggers and lights. Copilot says Pro controller has a 1070 maH battery. Dualsense has 1560 maH battery. I don't get it either

 

[Majima Everywhere System]

I'd rather have a four battery life than have to stick AA batteries into my controller like I'm back in 1992 playing on my Game Gear.

Buy the time you buy decent rechargeable AA's and a charger, you're adding another £20 on to the controller price itself.

With this news, I decided to buy an existing, second PS5 controller to finish up the gen.

Replaceable batteries are fine, but it's maybe a little behind on the trade off. Taking off a hatch that can have brakeable tabs (broke 1 of 2 on my signed Phil Spencer controller), juggling batteries on the way to the plug, putting them in the charger making sure it's right side up, don't let creatures eat them, wait and back in the controller or cycle 2 controllers.

Just bug a new controller Black Friday and be thankful this option exists for preservation.

 

[Edgelord79]

Although nice, the issue has always been the shitty joysticks. But by all means, let's not address those.

 

[LavitzSlambert]

Usually the trade off is between proprietary rechargeable lithium ion batteries and replaceable alkaline AAs. I understand why people choose the former, they last a long time and plugging in recharges them. Doesn't mean they can't be easily replaceable. Even if it's not a simple tab or slot for AAs, just opening up a Switch Pro controller makes it very easy to replace one. Glad to see things moving in this direction at PlayStation, especially with how fast those controllers drain.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

PlayStation fans have almost unanimously rejected AA batteries for the past couple generations like the plague. It'll be interesting to see if they suddenly have a change of heart.

 

[SkylineRKR]

Ther arguement against Sony's battery solution is starting to sound like the issue people had with using a screw driver to install an SSD, lol. You can easily replace the battery for another from Amazon, or you can even upgrade it for a battery with a higher capacity. If you're on PC and use a Dualsense, you'll have to connect the USB cable anyway.

The only thing in my house that uses AA batteries is the TV remote. Rechargable Lithium-Ion batteries ARE more environmentally friendly...

I replaced HDDs in consoles since the PS3. Its as easy as removing a screw.

Changing controller batteries is a bit different, as the video also shows.

Sony could also just make a slide cover, and sell proprietary batteries. The Amazon ones aren't always that great.

 

[Crayon]

You can put pedals on mine if that would make it last longer. jfc.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

This is false btw

 

[hououinkyouma00]

PlayStation fans have almost unanimously rejected AA batteries for the past couple generations like the plague. It'll be interesting to see if they suddenly have a change of heart.

I never took this rumor as the device coming with AA batteries but simply that the battery was removable as in something like the Xbox play and charge kit but already included.

It obviously turned out to be bullshit though at least for now.

Did we ever get confirmation that Xbox had a deal with Duracell?

 

[Signalis]

Stop posting cringe and shit

 

[Ellis]

PlayStation fans have almost unanimously rejected AA batteries for the past couple generations like the plague. It'll be interesting to see if they suddenly have a change of heart.

Doubtful. The trade off is worth it for most, especially if you have another controller charging on a dock for when your main runs out.

Pissing around with external batteries is an annoyance for most. We're not in the 90s anymore. It should be optional for people that don't mind doing it still, and exactly why MS should offer internal battery controllers as well as their existing ones.

I always do one mod when I get a new Dualsense though. Replacing the shitty thumbsticks with domed PS1/2/3 like sticks. Absolutely hate the flat PS4/5 ones.

 

[Bernkastel]

Xbox controllers never die, not sure what sorcery they use, but they keep it to themselves lol

I had multiple Xbox controllers replaced due to thumbstick drift.