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E3 2009 Sony Conference Thread
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fortified_concept
Banned
Conference-wise (how good the conferences looked)
Microsoft B
Sony B+
Nintendo C+
Games-wise (Quantity/quality of the games that were shown):
Microsoft B-
Sony A
Nintendo D
Microsoft B
Sony B+
Nintendo C+
Games-wise (Quantity/quality of the games that were shown):
Microsoft B-
Sony A
Nintendo D
Melchiah
Member
Best bits:
Uncharted 2 (the platforming looks nice, the shooting less so)
Heavy Rain (more footage would have been appreciated)
Agent (should have shown something more than a logo)
Final Fantasy XIV (unless if it's a multiplayer game, in which case you can count me out)
ModNation Racers
The Last Guardian
God of War III
ModNation Racers & The Last Guardian were definitely the stars of the show for me personally. Although, I had seen the latter's video before.
Uncharted 2 (the platforming looks nice, the shooting less so)
Heavy Rain (more footage would have been appreciated)
Agent (should have shown something more than a logo)
Final Fantasy XIV (unless if it's a multiplayer game, in which case you can count me out)
ModNation Racers
The Last Guardian
God of War III
ModNation Racers & The Last Guardian were definitely the stars of the show for me personally. Although, I had seen the latter's video before.
VibratingDonkey
Member
I come away from this conference not feeling much different towards Sony's lineup than I did before. MAG, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain and GT5 all look promising. Don't much care for the rest.
Too bad they couldn't show anything from Agent. Too bad my buggy PC ruined the The Last Guardian trailer.
I continue to not care about all these motion control shenanigans until someone out there proves its worth caring about. I'm not interested in fancy technology if all it amounts to is silly tech demos and side projects. Need to penetrate the market, be used in a bunch of proper games in a tangible way that's preferable to using a normal controller, and it needs to be games I give a shit about. Then I'll care. Maybe Molyneux's project will be such a thing. In 2011 or whenever that'll be out.
Too bad they couldn't show anything from Agent. Too bad my buggy PC ruined the The Last Guardian trailer.
I continue to not care about all these motion control shenanigans until someone out there proves its worth caring about. I'm not interested in fancy technology if all it amounts to is silly tech demos and side projects. Need to penetrate the market, be used in a bunch of proper games in a tangible way that's preferable to using a normal controller, and it needs to be games I give a shit about. Then I'll care. Maybe Molyneux's project will be such a thing. In 2011 or whenever that'll be out.
seattle6418
Member
After reading some comments, a huge :lol for the ones thinking that the GT5 clip is CG... it's really that good.
I'm just glad they showed.
I'm just glad they showed.
Woo-Fu
Banned
Sony by a nose.
Forza 3 vs. GT5 is just going to get uglier. Shame there isn't a release date for 5 yet.
Pricing on the PSP Go makes sense to me, after all they stated it wasn't a replacement for the psp3000. Smaller size, more features = higher price, nothing unusual there. It isn't like the DSi is the same price as a DS Lite either, right?
The "only possible on a ps3" mantra is getting old, seems little more than fanboy bait.
Forza 3 vs. GT5 is just going to get uglier. Shame there isn't a release date for 5 yet.
Pricing on the PSP Go makes sense to me, after all they stated it wasn't a replacement for the psp3000. Smaller size, more features = higher price, nothing unusual there. It isn't like the DSi is the same price as a DS Lite either, right?
The "only possible on a ps3" mantra is getting old, seems little more than fanboy bait.
BoilersFan23
Member
I expect a slim to be saved for another conference. Sony still has two more conferences left to go. If people remember last year, the 3000 PSP went to Leipzig while the new 80GB SKU went to E3. As for price drop, if there would have been a price drop, we would have seen a leak somehow (with retailers advertising a pricedrop in an ad). Since we didn't see any, I didn't think it was going to happen. With Sony admitting they are still losing 10% of the price of the PS3 on everyone they sell (and with the yen strengthening), I don't see a price drop until the last possible minute (like around September).Shadow780 said:
fortified_concept
Banned
Melchiah said:
ModNation Racers was one of the stars of the show? Really?
Kitschkraft
Member
trmas said:
Edit : NM, I thought you were speaking on Sony only games.
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
I didn't see Nintendo's conference, but I think Sony's and Microsoft's both were able to cater to their fans. It is hard to judge if you like one console more than the other because that implies you like certain type of games and therefore certain sequels would appeal more to you. I think Microsoft and Sony did a great job, but both could improve by a wide margin. B to both of them.
dollartaco
Member
I think a lot of people are going to talk about the motion technology from each respective company after this show. The Motion+ and the PS3 solution are far more usable as game controlling devices. Natal is going to get more press because it's controller-less, but you an tell from its demos vs the Motion+ and the gypsy dildo that there's a sizable delay in motion translation. Furthermore, removing buttons is going to severely limit what can be done in terms of control. A lot of people talk about how the 3DV cams can capture fingers, but I'm extremely skeptical of the conditions under which articulation is functionally translated to real-time gaming. Extremely.
MikeE21286
Member
Rindain said:
I thought it looked a lot better/polished too, but I wasn't sure if that was just me.
VALIS said:
Did you even PLAY the game, let alone on crushing? :lol
My PSP loved this, just like my PS3. My wallet didn´t.
I expect games that were not shown here will be shown during the rest of E3, right?
Where is my MGS Rising?! I played 4 damn MGS games with the dual shock layout, I´m NOT switching to the 360 pad for this D:
2 Minutes Turkish
Banned
Arsenic said:
Actually, victory was claimed after Crackdown 2.
See, the difference between MS'and conference and Sony's was that MS'had more stuff we DIDN'T already know about, and HADN'T already seen.
Which is really the point of E3.
So realistically
1. MS
2. Nintendo
3. Sony
If you're going to go by the surprise factor.
They give a release date for God of War 3?? I need that shit STAT!!!!
Gary Whitta
Member
I love how Super Mario Galaxy 2, Four-player classic Super Mario Bros and a new Metroid game from Team Ninja all adds up to a D. Truly we are through the looking glass here.fortified_concept said:
polyh3dron
Banned
Sony: 1st Place
Microsoft: Very Close 2nd Place
Nintendo: lol
Microsoft: Very Close 2nd Place
Nintendo: lol
Okay, let's try to put things in perspective here.
The conference started out quite strong with Uncharted 2. It definitely looks like it pushes the PS3's power pretty far along. The conference had an exceptionally strong last 10 minutes or so with GT5, Last Guardian, and God of War III shown consecutively. Yeah, it sucks that the leaked footage took out a lot of the wind from Last Guardian, but the additional footage and different graphical style helped things. At least, it's more than enough to make most viewers forget about the previous two hours of the conference.
They definitely focused on the PSP a lot more than usual, with actual games being released in 2009 and early 2010.
But do remember, this conference was at least two hours long, and a strong start and a strong finish has the tendency to eliminate memories of the middle. First off, announcing new games or exclusives without telling us a damn thing about them is not effective strategy (Resident Evil PSP and Agent). Second, the reaction to the motion wand is absolutely amazing. Most were skeptical about Nintendo using it, yet the minute Sony uses it it's a saving grace of the console? Get that shit out of here.
The FFXIII English trailer was good. FFXVI was just a massive cocktease. I mean, that's good for FFXI fans, but if a PC version does come out, I think we all know what's going to get the majority of the love.
No PS3 Price drop and the $250 PSP Go price points pretty much points to the fact that Sony either does not get or simply cannot do anything about pricing themselves out of the market.
For the PS3, the 2009-early 2010 schedule looks pretty barren. I guess that will sink in deeper later on this year.
With Microsoft, they kept a steady stream of games going. With Nintendo, while they did have some really BS moments, they at least were able to bring out multiple surprises that no one saw coming. I would pretty much put Sony at a middle-of-the-road C at this point. Definitely the worst showing out of the big three, but far above the likes of EA and Ubisoft's conferences.
The conference started out quite strong with Uncharted 2. It definitely looks like it pushes the PS3's power pretty far along. The conference had an exceptionally strong last 10 minutes or so with GT5, Last Guardian, and God of War III shown consecutively. Yeah, it sucks that the leaked footage took out a lot of the wind from Last Guardian, but the additional footage and different graphical style helped things. At least, it's more than enough to make most viewers forget about the previous two hours of the conference.
They definitely focused on the PSP a lot more than usual, with actual games being released in 2009 and early 2010.
But do remember, this conference was at least two hours long, and a strong start and a strong finish has the tendency to eliminate memories of the middle. First off, announcing new games or exclusives without telling us a damn thing about them is not effective strategy (Resident Evil PSP and Agent). Second, the reaction to the motion wand is absolutely amazing. Most were skeptical about Nintendo using it, yet the minute Sony uses it it's a saving grace of the console? Get that shit out of here.
The FFXIII English trailer was good. FFXVI was just a massive cocktease. I mean, that's good for FFXI fans, but if a PC version does come out, I think we all know what's going to get the majority of the love.
No PS3 Price drop and the $250 PSP Go price points pretty much points to the fact that Sony either does not get or simply cannot do anything about pricing themselves out of the market.
For the PS3, the 2009-early 2010 schedule looks pretty barren. I guess that will sink in deeper later on this year.
With Microsoft, they kept a steady stream of games going. With Nintendo, while they did have some really BS moments, they at least were able to bring out multiple surprises that no one saw coming. I would pretty much put Sony at a middle-of-the-road C at this point. Definitely the worst showing out of the big three, but far above the likes of EA and Ubisoft's conferences.
OK, so going down the games.
Uncharted 2 was awesome awesome awesome.
Last Guardian was moody and looked great BUT was leaked so the magic was lost (I think I can safely say now that the Trico leak may have been unintentional since they showed the same damn thing now)
MAG was meh. no way a large userbase can get into that kind of game.
PSP Go. I called the price at 250 last week. for that, I feel proud. BUT, I still think that it's too expensive to offer no added functionality over the PSP 3000. so, meh from me. will probably sell OK but it's not going to do any major damage to the DS.
I don't care about the GT and MGS PSP games shown today. it's the problem with all PSP games, imo. they're like PS2 games. but they control worse and you play them on a smaller screen.
Agent was a stupid, stupid announcement. show SOMETHING, you morons. as it is, we have no idea what to expect and the weak applause at the conference showed the lack of enthusiasm.
FFIV as an MMO is not my cup of tea. it's not really a big exclusive for Sony as a console game
AC2 looked good but is multiplatform. like MW2 being shown at the 360 conf.
GT5 was pretty much all CGI. rally stuff is awesome! Nascar is meh. I wanted stage gameplay demos. that's what made the MS conference so good. they did it for multiple titles.
GoW III looked a LOT like GoW II. like, nearly identical in scope. it was very, very pretty but it didn't do anything for me like the uncharted and trico trailers did.
Motion control.
looks like Sony has the exact same shit going on as the Wii with wii motion plus. I mean, almost exactly the same. the difference is that the wii motion plus demos looked fun and polished and these looked like they should've been in Kentia Hall.
Sony is very far behind the other 2 companies in motion control. very far behind.
everything shown here can be done by natal. everything. only with added head tracking and voice recognition.
oh, and you don't need to buy 4 wands for 2 people (one per hand)
video montages were shit and dragged down the show
So, for a score, I'd give Sony a B-. based almost entirely on the awesomeness of Uncharted, Last Guardian and (hopefully) GoW3 and GT5.
I was wrong earlier for thinking the PS3 slim was going to be announced here. I guess they'll wait till TGS?
If they had a more robust motion demo and more info on Agent, or a PS3 price drop I'd have given them a B+
So: my final scores, for what it's worth
Microsoft A
Nintendo B
Sony B-
Uncharted 2 was awesome awesome awesome.
Last Guardian was moody and looked great BUT was leaked so the magic was lost (I think I can safely say now that the Trico leak may have been unintentional since they showed the same damn thing now)
MAG was meh. no way a large userbase can get into that kind of game.
PSP Go. I called the price at 250 last week. for that, I feel proud. BUT, I still think that it's too expensive to offer no added functionality over the PSP 3000. so, meh from me. will probably sell OK but it's not going to do any major damage to the DS.
I don't care about the GT and MGS PSP games shown today. it's the problem with all PSP games, imo. they're like PS2 games. but they control worse and you play them on a smaller screen.
Agent was a stupid, stupid announcement. show SOMETHING, you morons. as it is, we have no idea what to expect and the weak applause at the conference showed the lack of enthusiasm.
FFIV as an MMO is not my cup of tea. it's not really a big exclusive for Sony as a console game
AC2 looked good but is multiplatform. like MW2 being shown at the 360 conf.
GT5 was pretty much all CGI. rally stuff is awesome! Nascar is meh. I wanted stage gameplay demos. that's what made the MS conference so good. they did it for multiple titles.
GoW III looked a LOT like GoW II. like, nearly identical in scope. it was very, very pretty but it didn't do anything for me like the uncharted and trico trailers did.
Motion control.
looks like Sony has the exact same shit going on as the Wii with wii motion plus. I mean, almost exactly the same. the difference is that the wii motion plus demos looked fun and polished and these looked like they should've been in Kentia Hall.
Sony is very far behind the other 2 companies in motion control. very far behind.
everything shown here can be done by natal. everything. only with added head tracking and voice recognition.
oh, and you don't need to buy 4 wands for 2 people (one per hand)
video montages were shit and dragged down the show
So, for a score, I'd give Sony a B-. based almost entirely on the awesomeness of Uncharted, Last Guardian and (hopefully) GoW3 and GT5.
I was wrong earlier for thinking the PS3 slim was going to be announced here. I guess they'll wait till TGS?
If they had a more robust motion demo and more info on Agent, or a PS3 price drop I'd have given them a B+
So: my final scores, for what it's worth
Microsoft A
Nintendo B
Sony B-
AranhaHunter
Banned
Just remembered they didn't even show Ratchet ACIT lol poor IG
I can't tell who's been sincere or not in this thread!
All the leaks killed this press conference. There was plenty of good stuff, but we already knew the details. And the things we didn't know about weren't really "good news", i.e. $250 pricetag on PSP Go and yet another MMO coming to the PS3. How many is that now? 8?!?
All the leaks killed this press conference. There was plenty of good stuff, but we already knew the details. And the things we didn't know about weren't really "good news", i.e. $250 pricetag on PSP Go and yet another MMO coming to the PS3. How many is that now? 8?!?