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EGM Miyamoto Revolution Interview
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Bluemercury
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TheGamingGuru said:
"touting"......
Spider_Jerusalem
Member
I think I've got to improve my english - I really don't understand the meaning of what you wrote o_oPonn01 said:
No, that's not wired, that's like a wireless thing-a-majig.olimario said:
The cost will be higher if you develop for 720p/1080i. I'm not sure, but I think Nintendo may give that support, since it doesn't cost much to support a certain resolution. The cost of game development is the real problem with this whole high-definition debacle. Nintendo is going to focus on 480p, which means they're going to develop in 480p.Culex said:
Bluemercury
Member
Culex said:
Im no techie but dont you have to alter the machine so that i can handle that resolution???if you're just going to support it just for the sake of it you have to build the hardware so that it can handle it properly am i right?
Spider_Jerusalem
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Well, you've got to build a much more powerful hardware. Keeping the resolution low, you can obtain the same or even better graphical level (on a low-def tv, obviously) than the other consoles, with a less powerful hardware. This is a great bet Nintendo is putting on the table: they think the "hd era" won't come at a popular level during next-gen. But if it will arrive, they'll be screwed.Culex said:
deadhorse32
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Culex said:
You need more bandwidth and thus more powerfull hardware. (see PC gaming : if you increase the resolution, the framerate drop). As Spider_Jerusalem said, Nintendo doesn't believe the "HD era" is gonna explode in the next 5 year (In some part of Europe HDTV are still very expensive for simple 480p resolution). By limiting the resolution they'll probably get the same level of performance but with cheaper hardware.
Let's WAIT and SEE.
Frank the Great
Banned
I like how you guys ignore the entire article and jump over a silly quote that is likely misunderstood.
The interviews seem like great news for me. Nintendo believes that Rev will be on par with the competition graphically, and they are simply not known for over exaggerating their specs or boasting about power. The controller will be fine for third party games. Built in DVD playback. New Pikmin game likely. They're thinking about Smash Bros. DS, as well as a new Luigi game. Potential online multiplayer for classic games.
This all is good news, no matter how hard you fanboys try to ignore it and spin it.
The interviews seem like great news for me. Nintendo believes that Rev will be on par with the competition graphically, and they are simply not known for over exaggerating their specs or boasting about power. The controller will be fine for third party games. Built in DVD playback. New Pikmin game likely. They're thinking about Smash Bros. DS, as well as a new Luigi game. Potential online multiplayer for classic games.
This all is good news, no matter how hard you fanboys try to ignore it and spin it.
We are no longer going to be in the old 3D era, we're into the Shader model 3.0 world. It's no longer add a bit of RAM to go from 320x240 to 640x480. Shaders are now effectively working on a per pixel basis. With 720p you have 3.75x the resolution and thus need 3.75x the GPU power. If the Revolution is only a third of the power of the xbox 360 it beats it for SD resolutions.
Anyway, for once I'll join in with the dubious screenshot comparisons, comparing Zeruda with 3, count 'em, 3 x360 games:
And finally, the creme de la creme:
Anyway, for once I'll join in with the dubious screenshot comparisons, comparing Zeruda with 3, count 'em, 3 x360 games:
And finally, the creme de la creme:
Geez, people love to harp on something and go apeshit with it...
Barring the possiblity of a slight translation error somewhere along the line....look at how many people kept saying so many XBOX 360 didn't look "next-gen". Games like Kameo, Perfect Dark Zero and Dead or Alive 4, all got bashed for their graphics, so in that context, how is Iwata's quote so laughable? Besides, the way he started the sentence made it seem like Rev should fit in with PS3/X360 similarly to how GC matched up to PS2/XBOX...in other words, very comparible.
Good to hear about the XBOX style DVD playback, and a "non-scary" controller...I just hope all those who stayed up late dreaming up outlandish controller concepts don't bash Nintendo...if N were to actually make some extremely unique alienating controller, then people would bitch to high heaven....from the sounds of things it will be very 3rd party friendly, yet people will bitch about that too because it's not "innovative" enough. Aside from the non-HDTV support(as standard), I see no reason for all of this doom and gloom bullshit regarding Revolution. Get N or Get Out!
Barring the possiblity of a slight translation error somewhere along the line....look at how many people kept saying so many XBOX 360 didn't look "next-gen". Games like Kameo, Perfect Dark Zero and Dead or Alive 4, all got bashed for their graphics, so in that context, how is Iwata's quote so laughable? Besides, the way he started the sentence made it seem like Rev should fit in with PS3/X360 similarly to how GC matched up to PS2/XBOX...in other words, very comparible.
Good to hear about the XBOX style DVD playback, and a "non-scary" controller...I just hope all those who stayed up late dreaming up outlandish controller concepts don't bash Nintendo...if N were to actually make some extremely unique alienating controller, then people would bitch to high heaven....from the sounds of things it will be very 3rd party friendly, yet people will bitch about that too because it's not "innovative" enough. Aside from the non-HDTV support(as standard), I see no reason for all of this doom and gloom bullshit regarding Revolution. Get N or Get Out!
Nightbringer
Don´t hit me for my bad english plase
Nintendo is making an army of Nhaters based on ex-fans of the company that want all the gold in the world.
I am happy, Nintendo starts to be evil and less conservative.
I am happy, Nintendo starts to be evil and less conservative.
heidern said:We are no longer going to be in the old 3D era, we're into the Shader model 3.0 world. It's no longer add a bit of RAM to go from 320x240 to 640x480. Shaders are now effectively working on a per pixel basis. With 720p you have 3.75x the resolution and thus need 3.75x the GPU power. If the Revolution is only a third of the power of the xbox 360 it beats it for SD resolutions.
Anyway, for once I'll join in with the dubious screenshot comparisons, comparing Zeruda with 3, count 'em, 3 x360 games:
And finally, the creme de la creme:
ZERUDA IS COMPARABLE! HOT DAMN! :lol
Bluemercury
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Ulairi said:
And the fact that he choose the worst possible screen for Zelda...... :lol
radioheadrule83
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FINALLY! A great Revolution interview...
anybody noticed that things are starting to get moving on the media/news front here?
To sum up:
"I don't think the Revolution's (graphics) will be inferior in any fashion to Xbox 360 or PS3."
480p standard
Aim to make machine suitable for as many people as possible.
DVD player already there - not an attachment. Pay to unlock a la Xbox/PS2.
Wifi or Ethernet via USB adaptor.
Nintendo considering Smash Bros DS.
Ambiguous answer regarding a Luigi Mansion sequel.
The new Revolution interface suits Pikmin well.
Mario Party online being considered.
Nintendo aim to make Revolution's new interface aspect a standard.
The Revolution controller will suit / be-able-to-play conventional games. (sounds like Teddman's got it spot on)
anybody noticed that things are starting to get moving on the media/news front here?
To sum up:
"I don't think the Revolution's (graphics) will be inferior in any fashion to Xbox 360 or PS3."
480p standard
Aim to make machine suitable for as many people as possible.
DVD player already there - not an attachment. Pay to unlock a la Xbox/PS2.
Wifi or Ethernet via USB adaptor.
Nintendo considering Smash Bros DS.
Ambiguous answer regarding a Luigi Mansion sequel.
The new Revolution interface suits Pikmin well.
Mario Party online being considered.
Nintendo aim to make Revolution's new interface aspect a standard.
The Revolution controller will suit / be-able-to-play conventional games. (sounds like Teddman's got it spot on)
Shikamaru Ninja
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This interview was from E3 though.
What!?radioheadrule83 said:
DVD player already there - not an attachment. Pay to unlock a la Xbox/PS2. - No dude. The thing might already not be there, you have to pay for something to get it in there. It's definately not confirmed it's already there and it only needs unlocking, because that means every consumer would have to pay for DVD playback, even if they don't want it.
Wifi or Ethernet via USB adaptor. - Wifi is built-in...
Mario Party online being considered. - No it's not! Modified old games are considered.
The Revolution controller will suit / be-able-to-play conventional games. (sounds like Teddman's got it spot on) - Spot on? What Teddman said was very ambiguous.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
The fact that he says "at least for launch" they will make it compatible to be mapped to all styles of conventional controllers, meaning the compeitions next-gen controllers as well, that makes me believe the controller is upgradable then.
Cool.
Really positive interview.
Cool.
Really positive interview.
Ruzbeh said:
No, here's the Iwata quote again:
The majority of households already own a DVD player or two. We don't want them to spend extra money just to have a console which happens to have DVD capability. And the DVD player isn't going to be an attachment; its going to go inside the machine so you won't even (be able to) tell the difference.
NintendosBooger
Member
Why do they keep talking and having interviews unless they're going to show us something? They spout off the same shit every week. Give us a pictures, or at least a composite sketch of some upcoming games.
radioheadrule83
Banned
If the drive bay already accepts media of the same size and won't use an external attachment, isn't the most logical conclusion that it will use a key / remote in the way that consoles this generation have?
This and the NP interview with Simon Jeffrey are the first Revolution related interviews with any substance that I remember being published to a web site since E3.
NintendosBooger said:
This and the NP interview with Simon Jeffrey are the first Revolution related interviews with any substance that I remember being published to a web site since E3.
By the 480p comment, it sounds like business as usual. I believe this means the Rev can output at 720p, or even 1080i, but Nintendo is not enforcing it like Sony/MS. Which means, if a developer wants to optimize a game for 720p, as long as it runs fine at 480i, Nintendo doesn't care. That's how at least I interpet the Rev's resolution capabilities.
Inside the N-hater mind:
"Oh crap, the graphics will be comparable to the competition, the controller won't be alienating to conventional games afterall, Nintendo is actually going online, *at least* 480p standerd, there's a DVD option, SD cards, WiFi & USB standerd...dammit, gimme something to work with here Kidtendo...ahhhhhhhhh, new Iwata quote meant to pimp & advertise Zelda, but instead can be manipulated for my N-hate anti-Revolution crusade."
Posts on GAF as a beacon for other N-hater's to come out of the woodwork:
"LOLerz...Iwata is are so dumb...silly Miyamoto, Zelda is not on par with the greatness that is the "next generation" of game graphics to the next level!!!"
"Oh crap, the graphics will be comparable to the competition, the controller won't be alienating to conventional games afterall, Nintendo is actually going online, *at least* 480p standerd, there's a DVD option, SD cards, WiFi & USB standerd...dammit, gimme something to work with here Kidtendo...ahhhhhhhhh, new Iwata quote meant to pimp & advertise Zelda, but instead can be manipulated for my N-hate anti-Revolution crusade."
Posts on GAF as a beacon for other N-hater's to come out of the woodwork:
"LOLerz...Iwata is are so dumb...silly Miyamoto, Zelda is not on par with the greatness that is the "next generation" of game graphics to the next level!!!"
TheJollyCorner
Member
rofl :lol
what the fuck is this?
I hope this game comes packed in with 360 or something... terrible... :lol
what the fuck is this?
I hope this game comes packed in with 360 or something... terrible... :lol
Gorgie said:
Yeah, it could just be a simple step-up from the situation with GC. With GC 480i was the standard, 480p was optional with a lot of games choosing to support it. 480p being 'standard' could just mean all games will have to be aleast progressive scan on Revolution.
I don't know whether it's just translation problems or Nintendo being deliberately vague, but the whole interview seems to be designed to be ambiguous and unclear as possible! I wish they'd just hold this unveiling and get it over with, and stop all this trying to read between the lines nonsense.
Ruzbeh said:
-DVD player could be built-in but disabled. The reason DVD playback wouldn't be enabled by default is because it would make the system cost $20 more. There's a DVD royalty fee that has to be paid for any device capable of playing DVD movies.
- Learn to read, he said Wifi or Ethernet via USB adaptor, not Wifi and ethernet avaible seperatly via usb adaptor. It's like he said, you either have option 1.. or if you want you can have option 2 but via an ethernet adapter.
- You're just nitpicking here, he was just vague. He didn't say "new" Mario Party.
- No comment, i don't care about Teddman's claims.
P.S Anyone think that those thousands of hate mails that Nintendo received might have changed the support to 480p instead of i. That way, they can claim that they're not enforcing HD but at the same time, save face for the stupid remarks they made because if it supports 480p, then it can support 720 and 1080.. just not enforce it.
God's Hand
Banned
DVD functionality will of course have to be implemented in the system. The unlock it, you'll probably have to buy a remote. DUH.
Zelda looks as good or better than most next-gen games, except GoW and most other UE3 games.
I can't wait to see what a Mario game looks like on the Revolution. Or Pikmin. Oooh, I want Pilotwings too. I just can't wait!
Zelda looks as good or better than most next-gen games, except GoW and most other UE3 games.
I can't wait to see what a Mario game looks like on the Revolution. Or Pikmin. Oooh, I want Pilotwings too. I just can't wait!
He says Mario party online. In the interview, Mario Party was just an example as an old game that could be modified for online play, that doesn't mean they're actually going to take an old mario party game and put it online.koam said:
And I think that Nintendo should just drop DVD support for Revolution. No one cares. I know I don't! And I don't think all those hate mails (Over a 1000 mails? My ass) made Nintendo change their mind.
God's Hand
Banned
You are nitpicking, just stop.
BTW, anyone else think ATi's Mobility chipset will be used in the Revolution? Considering the size and the fact that it will be comparable to the other two, I don't see how else ATi plans on pulling it off unless they're using a mobile GPU. I was looking at the X800 Mobility specs and reviews, and it sounds amazing. Even if Revolution just had that, it would be perfect.
BTW, anyone else think ATi's Mobility chipset will be used in the Revolution? Considering the size and the fact that it will be comparable to the other two, I don't see how else ATi plans on pulling it off unless they're using a mobile GPU. I was looking at the X800 Mobility specs and reviews, and it sounds amazing. Even if Revolution just had that, it would be perfect.
DrGAKMAN said:
N-side the N-bot mind:
"Oh crap, the graphics are in question if they will be comparable, developers and even Nintendo reps are downplaying the graphics. MUST DEFEND THE HIVE AT ALL COST!
If Nintendo doesn't crush the competition I cannot enjoy my system, must make others believe. Oh no, Revolution not supporting HD. Wait, I totally believe Nintendo that HD will not matter, why can't everyone else see the truth of what Nintendo says? I will fight them and set them right. See, Revolution will have DVD, a generation late and no longer a matter, but see they have it. See they have online, a generation late, but see they have it, in fact it's the new Nintendo way online, which really isn't any different then anyone else is doing it, but still it's Nintendo online so there. New Iwata quote meant to downplay graphics of next generation systems, better spin it too other forumers even though it's meaning is obvious and makes no sense. Crap that's not working. I know, I will post the worst possible pics of next generation games I can find compared to the best zelda pics I can find, yea that will work. And if that won't work, I will just go badmouth PSP in the numbers thread, I always have that to fall back on."
Posts on GAF are a beacon for other N-Bots to come out of the woodwork:
"LOLerz ... Iwata is so brilliant..worship Miyamoto. Zelda is on par with next generation graphics i totally believe anything the holy trilogy Iwata/Miyamoto/Reggie says to me."
God's Hand
Banned
Get a life, seriously. Nobody is like that, at least not in this thread. Zelda, artistically, does look better than most next-gen outtings. I highly doubt Iwata meant technically, because that would just be retarded, kind of like you.
God's Hand
Banned
Your post had nothing to do with the thread subject. Leave. You don't like how us "n-bots" are excited about the Revolution and believe that Zelda looks better, so be it. Keep it to yourself.
Spider_Jerusalem said:
yeah yeah nice to select the worst possible Zelda picture against one of the best looking 360 games.
Iwata didn't say Zelda is comparable to Oblivion, he said it's comparable to Next-Gen games he didn't mention any game specifically learn to read. and this interview was done in E3 remember the 360 debacle? with Perfect Dark Zero? I think Iwata was right at that time.
God's Hand said:
Get over yourself dude. I don't care how excited N-bots feel, I think all sides make this forum interesting. If something is said by any companies rep. that's meaning is highly questionable they will always get attacked, and rightly so. Stop thinking Nintendo is a martyr, that's what makes it pathetic.