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Equating Kimbo to Bald Bull is spot on, provided Bull got all his wins knocking over cans. 
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EliteXC Heat: Kimbo V Shamrock, and two other heavyweights not in the main event....
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OokieSpookie
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VindicatorZ said:
He didn't attempt to cover up because he is a brawler and he is inexperienced in the cage.
In a brawl when you get knocked down or fall down, you do not think about covering up you get to your feet at all costs as fast as you can.
Period.
He did not just late there, he was trying to sit up and get to his feet because the punches were really doing little damage and if it was not stopped he may have been able to bull his way up and carry on but MMA fights have the rule about "intelligently defending yourself".
You can not eat three or four unanswered clean hits and not expect a stoppage.
(Edited to remove the term "street fighter", it just sounds dumb)
This "He didn't cover up, so he threw the fight" bs is retarded.
Kimbo was out of it at the end. You don't need to be KO'd cold to be knocked out. Kimbo had no idea what was going on. When the fight ended, he attempted to take the ref down. His head was between the ref's leg, with an arm wrapped around.
Kimbo was out of it. It's as simple as that.
You also don't always need to be hit by a huge punch to go down if you get hit in the right spot. Kimbo's head even snapped to the side with that punch, and Seth didn't get much on it. However, it was the punches that followed up that were the ones that finished it.
Just look at Kimbo's face, it was opened up, and his eye was already swelling up, and this was what, 60 seconds after the fight ended?
Many punches, unless they are extremely clean, and really obliterate the person, will look much softer in slow-mo, but if you watch it sped up, he pounded on Kimbo.
I suggest some of you go out and train, instead of sitting in your basement saying he threw the fight because you can't be hurt by those type of punches.
Kimbo was out of it at the end. You don't need to be KO'd cold to be knocked out. Kimbo had no idea what was going on. When the fight ended, he attempted to take the ref down. His head was between the ref's leg, with an arm wrapped around.
Kimbo was out of it. It's as simple as that.
You also don't always need to be hit by a huge punch to go down if you get hit in the right spot. Kimbo's head even snapped to the side with that punch, and Seth didn't get much on it. However, it was the punches that followed up that were the ones that finished it.
Just look at Kimbo's face, it was opened up, and his eye was already swelling up, and this was what, 60 seconds after the fight ended?
Many punches, unless they are extremely clean, and really obliterate the person, will look much softer in slow-mo, but if you watch it sped up, he pounded on Kimbo.
I suggest some of you go out and train, instead of sitting in your basement saying he threw the fight because you can't be hurt by those type of punches.
Future PhaZe
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The punch looked like it had no real force behind it but you can't argue with the result. Swelling and a cut above the eye.
Outcast2004
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yacobod said:
My point actually has not much to do with Carano, as there is a market for it. With more exposure you get better talent.
All I'm saying is that if XC does fold (which it may very well), look for White to go out of his way to get her and build a division around her.
Tons of people were rooting for Kimbo, but look at the Cantrell fight and the Thompson fight. Those were both questionable at best and he got KTFO by a guy giving up 30 pounds who is a mediocre fighter at best.
Kimbowned! He got exposed, but he has heavy hands. He isn't going to stop training MMA, and his career certainly isn't over. He'll be back, but his credibility took a huge shot in the fight. I wouldn't doubt Elite had Ken paid off to take a dive for Kimbo in the fight anyway but obviously that fight didn't happen.
Hell, Elite had to pay Kimbo extra just to get in the ring with Seth. It just tells you at this point Kimbo doesn't stack up as being anywhere near a top fighter.
I do think UFC should carry womens fights though, they can be quite entertaining and Carano is so nice
Kimbowned! He got exposed, but he has heavy hands. He isn't going to stop training MMA, and his career certainly isn't over. He'll be back, but his credibility took a huge shot in the fight. I wouldn't doubt Elite had Ken paid off to take a dive for Kimbo in the fight anyway but obviously that fight didn't happen.
Hell, Elite had to pay Kimbo extra just to get in the ring with Seth. It just tells you at this point Kimbo doesn't stack up as being anywhere near a top fighter.
I do think UFC should carry womens fights though, they can be quite entertaining and Carano is so nice
OokieSpookie
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I actually feel kind of bad for Shamrock, this would have been a fight he actually could have (probably) won and he doesn't run into those often.
NinjaCodah
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Outcast2004 said:
Dana White already said he's not interested in women mma. He's not dissing the women or anything, but there's no market for women mma for the UFC. As much as I like Gina Carano, women mma simply isn't as good as the average undercard ppv fight. Would you really want to pay to see a fight between 2 girls like Kelly Kobold? The typical UFC fan certainly wouldn't. I'm not against women mma, hell I think it is more legit than professional boxing if you ask me, but it'll need a couple more years and a lot more fighters before it can become remotely as good as anything else.
VindicatorZ
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NinjaCodah said:
How is professional boxing not legit?
riskVSreward
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He said MMA is more legit, not that boxing isnt legit.
Spiderjericho
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Dunno. I watched videos of Cyborg on youtube. She's a beast. I don't think that pretty girl Carano stands a chance.
And why couldn't there be a market. They could put it on UFC tv (or whatever it's called) and put a high-caliber match on a card once in awhile.
And why couldn't there be a market. They could put it on UFC tv (or whatever it's called) and put a high-caliber match on a card once in awhile.
OokieSpookie
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Watching it again, and it sounds crazy to say it but I swear Kimbo's first thought was to go in for a take down but then stopped to throw a punch or something.
AndyIsTheMoran
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MrHicks said:
i would still like to see pretty boy floyd go down.
Not being an ass but there are some of us who've seen this kind of thing over and over. The way Kimbo didn't defend himself intelligently is very common among new fighters or fighters not used to getting rocked. And yeah, the jab wasn't powerful but it was stiff enough for Kimbo's bull charge to knock himself out. Like he ran his face into a stationary baseball bat. You could see his neck take a quick 90 degrees turn in some of the gifs. That and the hit you don't see coming most easily floors you. It doesn't take much power either as in the infamous Herring kiss ko.VindicatorZ said:
OokieSpookie
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http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dw-kimbo100508&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
This was the main yahoo headline
This was the main yahoo headline
Future PhaZe
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Timedog said:
I'm kind of scared for Gina
And fuck I knew that Kimbo couldn't have lost that easily. I've never seen Kimbo bleed before. Even if Kimbo lost a fight he wouldn't bleed.
Proof here..
dskillzhtown
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Rorschach said:
Tell me about it.
The Internet
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I want to download this fight but my work has all the sites blocked. Is there any link out there where I could directly download it to my computer?
The Internet
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I watched it live on T.V., I just wanted to re-live it with the fight entrances and commentary here at work.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/mm...t=Annv7ErSmdRiugQ98HTYa2Q9Eo14?urn=mma,112987
Bye bye elitexc. So they hinted to Seth not to take Kimbo down? Wow.
Bye bye elitexc. So they hinted to Seth not to take Kimbo down? Wow.
unomas said:
HOLY CRAP. I'm not surprised by that, but it totally kills their credibility. It will truly ruin them with serious MMA fans if it is true.
where they the ones that were handling that Kung Fu guy that nobody wanted to take down, or was it another outfit? The one with all the high kicks? He was a better technical fighter than Kimbo, and certainly had very good standup skills, but it was strange that nobody ever even tried taking him down.
Also, was just skimming through the thread and saw that many people were surprised that kimbo went down with such a light punch. In boxing terms that was what you call a flash knockdown. It can happen real easy early in a fight even if a guy has a great chin. Sometimes it's blamed on a guy not properly warming up. The followup punches are what finished things. the first punch just caused kimbo to shortcircuit for a second.
Lv99 Slacker
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smurfx said:
Silence. I honestly find the women fights to be more entertaining than most of the men's; they're usually more vicious.
Ninja Scooter
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This fights are FAKE. I wonder if Gina Carano's fight was also faked?
Kimbo Slice vs Bo Cantrell
Bo Cantrell throws a couple of jabs that don't even try to connect, at 4:14 you can see kimbo does not hit him with his right hook yet Bo still gets knocked out.
start watching at the 4:14 mark
http://www.buzzhumor.com/videos/19540/Kimbo_Slice_vs_Bo_Cantrell_EliteXC
Kimbo Slice vs Tank Abbott
just watching this fight then watching tanks other fights you can tell tank was not fighting like he usually does, he does not cover/defend him self like he usually would
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7838340965302059755
Kimbo Slice vs Bo Cantrell
Bo Cantrell throws a couple of jabs that don't even try to connect, at 4:14 you can see kimbo does not hit him with his right hook yet Bo still gets knocked out.
start watching at the 4:14 mark
http://www.buzzhumor.com/videos/19540/Kimbo_Slice_vs_Bo_Cantrell_EliteXC
Kimbo Slice vs Tank Abbott
just watching this fight then watching tanks other fights you can tell tank was not fighting like he usually does, he does not cover/defend him self like he usually would
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7838340965302059755
Anton Sugar
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YYZ said:
Yeah. Thought that was fucking hilarious. The overweight, glasses announcer pretending to be Bruce Buffer's voice double cracked me up.
500K for that? Shesh.
Also, Petruzelli has "clarified" his statement now:
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/10/6/629656/fans-must-demand-an-invest
Also, Petruzelli has "clarified" his statement now:
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/10/6/629656/fans-must-demand-an-invest
-Clover said:
Or you know...
Tank
1. is old.
2. is washed up.
3. openly admitted he "trained" by just drinking vodka at bars every night.
I'm not sticking up for Kimbo at all, but come on. To me, the only "fake" part would be that Tank shouldn't have been in the ring in the first place.
Kung Fu Jedi
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Big-E said:
Elite XC trying to pay for legitimacy.
Future PhaZe
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So I guess Seth is done with EliteXC :lol
Dudes bailing the fuck out. I'm surprised that Seth went and outed the organization like that. He could have at least guaranteed himself a rematch with Kimbo and got some dollars there. Now he's just going to either retire or get killed in his next fight at UFC or any other organization.
Props for telling the truth though. Damn Kimbo. Wow. I still think he beat those other losers legit but its not like it matters since they are so washed up.
Dudes bailing the fuck out. I'm surprised that Seth went and outed the organization like that. He could have at least guaranteed himself a rematch with Kimbo and got some dollars there. Now he's just going to either retire or get killed in his next fight at UFC or any other organization.
Props for telling the truth though. Damn Kimbo. Wow. I still think he beat those other losers legit but its not like it matters since they are so washed up.
Anton Sugar
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Pretty big "clarification" from Seth right there.
Kung Fu Jedi said:
That was Affliction's cash apparently in exchange for the heavy CBS marketing.
Ratings info also:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dm-excratings100608&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
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