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Enterprise Cancelled?

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vangace

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NEWS: Enterprise cancelled?

18 January 2005



We have it on good authority that the doomsayers are about to be proved right, and that Star Trek: Enterprise is being cancelled.

Our longstanding insider on the Paramount set, Trekspy, will soon be Trekspy no more - since they're being laid off in the first week of March. Due to the nature of Trekspy's role, this suggests that principal photography on the sound stages will finish at around the same time.

On 7 January the production team were still working on the 16th episode of the series, "Divergence". According to Trekspy, they have three or four episodes to shoot before production winds down. Note that the season was planned to run for 22 episodes.

If confirmed, the news does not come as a great surprise. Many observers expected Enterprise to be cancelled at the end of the third season, and ratings have continued to be poor this year. The first episode of the new year, "Daedalus", only brought in a meagre 1.9/3 share (meaning that only 1.9% of households with TVs were estimated to have tuned in).



Its about time, thank god for battlestar galactica
 

DarthWoo

I'm glad Grandpa porked a Chinese Muslim
Or perhaps it's a publicity stunt. Maybe they're hoping that if they threaten to cancel it, they'll get a surge of fandom like TOS had.
 

.hacked

Member
Oh well, I guess with 2 Stargate shows, Smallville and the new Battlestar Galactica I'll have enough Sci-Fi to fill the void.

Too bad, I am a long time Star Trek fan and Enterprise will be missed (hell it was better than Voyager).
 
Man, I'd really like to see another Quantum Leap series, the original is one of my all time favourites. But still I don't want them to cancel Enterprise just when it's starting to get good.
 

COCKLES

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Congratulations Berman 'n Bragga! You killed Star Trek.

Hopefully Manny Coto won't cop the flak...but I've got a feeling Berman & co have a rehersed 'it was all his fault...they (the audience) didn't like the changes being made to our amazing storylines."
 
COCKLES said:
Congratulations Berman 'n Bragga! You killed Star Trek.

Hopefully Manny Coto won't cop the flak...but I've got a feeling Berman & co have a rehersed 'it was all his fault...they (the audience) didn't like the changes being made to our amazing storylines."
Agreed. If the rest of this season holds up, it'll be something like...

Season 4 > Season 3 > (Season 1 + Season 2)
 

Saturnman

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Looks like I'm one of the few who liked the season 1 better, even if it was weak by Trek standards.

Season 1 > Season 2 > Season 3 > Season 4
 

Deku Tree

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I used to watch every episode of Voyager and Deep Space 9. But for some reason, I never got into Enterprise. It just wasn't as fun. Let's hope they come back with some good idea's for the next Star Trek TV series.
 
I wonder if Star Trek fans will migrate over to BSG now. Or if they already did? Hopefully this isn't a backlash against sci-fi in general, otherwise BSG may be affected :(
 

Saturnman

Banned
Enterprise never really had a groove going.

Season 3 and 4 were two major course changes. It seems like a Trek series without much focus.
 

Deku Tree

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I remember trying to get into it a few times. But I had missed a bunch of episodes and the episodes seemed so interconnected that it was impossible to get into since I had missed so much. I never felt that way with Voyager or Deep Space 9. It was a big dissapointment because I always like to watch good star-trek.
 

Phoenix

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COCKLES said:
Congratulations Berman 'n Bragga! You killed Star Trek.

Somewhere out there Berman and Bragga rejoice as the last of Trek has been killed with no loss of income or revenue by them. In that place I can hear a voice in mortal kombat tone speak...

"Flawless victory...."
 

teiresias

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The only reason it was even renewed for this season was so they'd have enough episodes to be able to sell it into syndication. If they'd already had enough episodes this season would have never happened anyway.
 

number386

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Star Trek does not need a break, it needs to ditch braga and it's legion of no talent writers/yes men. And lose this whole T&A crap, I dont need to see blalock sticking her chest out every episode, like 7 of 9 did. Great with this cancelled who knows when they will create another ST series it could be decades =(.
 

number386

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got this from trekweb.com

On the television front, while the future of their first series remains in limbo, Berman confirms that he is developing a non-STAR TREK sci-fi series with partner Brannon Braga. Both Berman and Braga have development deals with Paramount. If a new series begins development in earnest, TrekWeb insiders suggest Berman and/or Braga might take a reduced role in a fourth season of ENTERPRISE, though this is entirely speculation.

Those worthless fuckers, they kill the star trek series then they jump ship and start a new project, gawd damn.


And cut this who prequal crap the rumor is the next star trek film will also be a prequal enough already get off lucas's ass prequals suck!!! gahhhhhhhh!!!
 
Flying Llama said:
And cut this who prequal crap the rumor is the next star trek film will also be a prequal enough already get off lucas's ass prequals suck!!! gahhhhhhhh!!!

I don't know about considering anything a prequel at this point... They've established hundreds of years of history; why rule out earlier periods? Whether it's good or bad will have so much more to do with who's behind it and whether they're on a roll or in a rut.

As for that bit you quoted: must be pretty old, considering it talks about the fourth season as being only a possibility. However, that reduced role has come to pass. As has been mentioned earlier in the thread Manny Coto has been a big positive influence this season.
 

GDGF

Soothsayer
Trek doesn't need a break, just a concept and writing as good as it was on DS:9.

It's been a while sinced I watched that show (since the series ended, actually) but I recently started watching it again on Spike, and I was amazed by how much better it was than the newer Trek shows.
 
trilobyte said:
Doesn't help that they show 6 great episodes this season and get everyone excited, then go into 2-3 months of reruns
Well, it was more like 1-2 months, and many shows ease off around Christmas... but yeah, that sucked.
 
As someone who's never watched Enterprise or really any other Star Trek show, could anyone explain what brought on the hate for these two Berman and Bragga guys?
 

Saturnman

Banned
Star Trek Voyager, Star Trek Enterprise and all the Next Generation movies, I guess.

They're seen as the worst of Trek.
 
explodet said:
Hey, First Contact was pretty good.
Not Wrath of Khan good, but then, what other Star Trek movie was?
Not everything they did was bad... Braga in particular looking at IMDB had a number of awesome TNG episodes to his name. However, they've certainly been the head honchos during some extended low points.
 

FightyF

Banned
So what will they do after this show is over?

I'm crossing my fingers for a Sitcom situated at Starfleet Academy. Kinda like Boy Meets World, but in the future. It can tackle important issues like interspecies relationships in a light-hearted manner.
 

Phoenix

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Fight for Freeform said:
I'm crossing my fingers for a Sitcom situated at Starfleet Academy. Kinda like Boy Meets World, but in the future. It can tackle important issues like interspecies relationships in a light-hearted manner.

I hope Berman and Bragga don't read this forum...
 

tedtropy

$50/hour, but no kissing on the lips and colors must be pre-separated
explodet said:
Hey, First Contact was pretty good.
Not Wrath of Khan good, but then, what other Star Trek movie was?

I enjoyed First Contact and Generations. Innsurrection and Nemesis, eh, not so much.
 

Phoenix

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First Contact is up there with Wrath of Khan. I can watch those over and over again an infinite number of times. I'm not a generations fan however. In fact I have a level of loathing for that movie :)
 

tedtropy

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Phoenix said:
First Contact is up there with Wrath of Khan. I can watch those over and over again an infinite number of times. I'm not a generations fan however. In fact I have a level of loathing for that movie :)

Yep, it's a good movie. Kind of surprising that it was actually directed by Jonathan Frakes...
 

Saturnman

Banned
tedtropy said:
Yep, it's a good movie. Kind of surprising that it was actually directed by Jonathan Frakes...

Script, budget and casting matters more in Trek. I have trouble seeing how the different episodes are directed by different people. It seems like there is a Trek-style directing imposed or something.
 

Phoenix

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Saturnman said:
Script, budget and casting matters more in Trek. I have trouble seeing how the different episodes are directed by different people. It seems like there is a Trek-style directing imposed or something.

Script is by far the most important thing. If the plot is stupid or doesn't fit well as a Trek movie, it doesn't matter about the rest - it will suck all the same (look at you Insurrection).
 
Yeah, First Contact and The Wrath of Khan are definitely the best ST movies. Out of the more recent movies I also enjoyed Generations and Nemesis though Insurrection was like the worst movie ever.
 
I think Brandon Braga said on the Generations DVD commentary that they should have made All Good Things the first TNG movie instead of Generations, and I must say that I agree. That was so much better story...

He wrote them both by the way, and he also did some of the best Star Trek episodes ever. He has also done some weak episodes, but he still gets way too much hate.

Rick Berman on the other hand doesn't seem to be as good writer...
 
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