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[Revolutionary]

The Twitter reactions are continuing to be overblown - amusingly so. Like someone said earlier, some of these people are REALLY afraid of karma from all these years of shitting on their audience.

And that karma will manifest in the most dangerous form of all:
PIZZA

For those celebrating that gaming journalists are getting what they deserve, karma, etc.

I am one of the people affected by this data leak and forget games for a second and recognize this is real life.

I have a wife and 3 kids and now my home address is exposed to the world so any crazy person could knock on my door to start trouble because I said I didnt their favorite video game and lets not even go into female media members who live alone and were exposed by this breach.

So for this, lets save the personal snark and show some human decency for those of us that now need to make sure our privacy and safety is taken care of

You honestly, genuinely believe someone would do this? Come the fuck on. For the sake of your own mental health, step away from Twitter and its overreactions.
As for the "female media members" part.. do you think your audience are a bunch of rapists or something?

I realize this is a stressful time for you, but again, at worst you'll receive a few unsolicited food deliveries.

 

[Tuxedo_Zeromus]

I wouldn't just brush it off. As much as ResetEra is throwing a fit about this, I wouldn't put it past them to turn around and use the info if it's on someone they don't like. And that list is long.

 

[wingsfan242]

As one of the people affected by this, I found out through a text to my personal phone number from someone named Nick Monroe. I'm not THAT involved in social media, but that was enough to creep me out. Why he didn't use the email address listed instead of my personal phone is beyond me. Appreciated the heads up that my info was out there, but yea, don't use the leaked personal data of someone to contact them instead of using the publicly listed info...

Not that worried about anything happening, more so annoyed that I may have to change my phone number if a bunch of random people start calling me or giving my number to even more solicitors and shit.

 

[#Phonepunk#]

Shouldnt be an issue for anyone who wasn't a gamer shaming jerk

Oh wait I guess that's going to not be too many people. Hey people in glass houses amiright

 

[Hideous Snake]

Damn. How bad can this get?

 

[logicslayer]

I don't see how this "kills" E3. Plenty of companies that leak personal information are doing just fine. Why the hell would you give anyone real information when it comes to this type of data collection?

 

[MayauMiao]

Meanwhile at REEsetEra...

 

[Deleted member 752119]

I mean I can definitely see why people would be worried having their address, phone number etc out there. It's not a "gamer" thing or an "SJW" vs whatever the extremists on the other side are called thing. It's that there are lots of mentally ill whackjobs in every fanbase for any hobby. People that stalk online celebrities, losers that make death threats etc. No one should have to worry about that kind of shit outside of their public work email.

 

[Dada55000]

911 what is you emergency
hello 911, I'm a gamging journo and somebody sent me a pizza, pls hlep

 

[Mobile Suit Gooch]

Sheesh ... that was piss poor handling. Kind of funny that the term "accidental dox" was used though. It's such a brain dead mistake.




Sony did it better

Resetera did it better.

 

[danielberg]

If you are quiet you can hear chans and kiwifarms laughing in the distance.
Oh well

 

[SidViscous]

reminds you how professional gaming journalists are, that most of them seem to work from their parent's house and use gmail.

I guess they had 10,000 youtube subscribers or something.

 

[ShadyJ]

KiA isnt getting involved. They've made it clear that people will get banned quick on this topic.

Pussies

 

[Silent Viper]

Are there any hot and sexy Journalists?

 

[Scopa]

Well, this is a clusterfuck.

I hope there aren't any "journalists" on that list that have a history of encouraging doxxing.

 

[Petrae]

Lawsuits seem pretty likely, given that harassment has already (allegedly) begun— and, if the ESA has to pay out, that would probably spell the end of the group and cast significant doubt on future E3 events.

This piece looks at the possible legal ramifications: https://gamedaily.biz/article/1097/...rosshairs?amphtml=1&__twitter_impression=true

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Kiwi Farms has the list shown and even posted the Wayback Machine link.

I'm not sure if Wayback Machine will adjust archives, or they don't give a shit. But it's there.

 

[danielberg]

Well, this is a clusterfuck.

I hope there aren't any "journalists" on that list that have a history of encouraging doxxing.

a couple lol but even then i dont see more than a full mailbox and disgusting anchovy pizzas coming lol
what a stupid way this would be for e3 to die :/

 

[Petrae]

what a stupid way this would be for e3 to die :/

Fortunately, E3 isn't as necessary in the Digital Age. Platform-holders can choose to run their own events and third-party publishers can sign into those if desired... or they can adopt the "Direct" route, which is far cleaner/easier.

PAX events could gain from the possible death of E3 and the ESA, for publishers or platform-holders still looking to latch onto a preset venue.

The timing here is unfortunate, given that E3 2020 was probably going to be where we saw upcoming Gen9 consoles make their big reveal splashes. Now Sony and Microsoft may have to resort to alternatives.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

The list is only bad for people who use personal email, addresses and phone numbers.

Any invitee using their work info shouldn't be much of a big deal because it's public anyway (or likely is).

Never the less, a weird fuck up how a spreadsheet can be a clickable link in a web page. I;m going to guess the web editor meant to link in a different file or maybe a graphic image but accidentally linked in a excel file.

 

[Deleted member 752119]

Fortunately, E3 isn't as necessary in the Digital Age. Platform-holders can choose to run their own events and third-party publishers can sign into those if desired... or they can adopt the "Direct" route, which is far cleaner/easier.

PAX events could gain from the possible death of E3 and the ESA, for publishers or platform-holders still looking to latch onto a preset venue.

The timing here is unfortunate, given that E3 2020 was probably going to be where we saw upcoming Gen9 consoles make their big reveal splashes. Now Sony and Microsoft may have to resort to alternatives.

They wouldn't have revealed them at E3. They didn't even do that last time. They revealed them in their own events in spring and just announced release dates and price at E3.

 

[Petrae]

They wouldn't have revealed them at E3. They didn't even do that last time. They revealed them in their own events in spring and just announced release dates and price at E3.

Then adapting to no E3 in 2020 should be fairly easy, which I think it should be by now. Of all the ways I thought about how E3 would finally die off, having it happen because the ESA was sued into oblivion over stolen personal information was not a scenario I envisioned— yet here we are.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Now with some gaming "journalists" info out there, it's bad for us gamers.........

........... now with some of them on their tippy toes, they'l be churning out more 9/10 and 10/10 reviews to get irritable gamers off their backs.

 

[Clear]

The Twitter reactions are continuing to be overblown - amusingly so. Like someone said earlier, some of these people are REALLY afraid of karma from all these years of shitting on their audience.

And that karma will manifest in the most dangerous form of all:
PIZZA

You honestly, genuinely believe someone would do this? Come the fuck on. For the sake of your own mental health, step away from Twitter and its overreactions.
As for the "female media members" part.. do you think your audience are a bunch of rapists or something?

I realize this is a stressful time for you, but again, at worst you'll receive a few unsolicited food deliveries.

Indeed, I think some people are vastly overestimating their importance in the world.

Journalists reporting on oppressive regimes may find themselves in peril if their information gets leaked, but people covering video games? Seriously, even at the height of gamergate being an actual thing, nothing of note happened.

C'mon you honestly think that agents of a "movement" that's largely been kept alive as a convenient bogeyman by the media themselves in order to personalize anyone who doesn't toe their ideological line are suddenly going to emerge from the shadows to strike because of this?

I think not.

 

[Arkage]

The Twitter reactions are continuing to be overblown - amusingly so. Like someone said earlier, some of these people are REALLY afraid of karma from all these years of shitting on their audience.

And that karma will manifest in the most dangerous form of all:
PIZZA

You honestly, genuinely believe someone would do this? Come the fuck on. For the sake of your own mental health, step away from Twitter and its overreactions.
As for the "female media members" part.. do you think your audience are a bunch of rapists or something?

I realize this is a stressful time for you, but again, at worst you'll receive a few unsolicited food deliveries.

You're just really wrong. Did you not even bother reading the first page?

Identify every """video game journalist""" on the list who spoke in favor of violence against Trump voters and others who don't cowtow to their cult. Then, beat them within an inch of their pathetic lives.

Also, a good video on online harassment:

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Game reviewer: Call of Duty sucks. Same shit every year gamer. Yet another annual game I give a 6/10. Last good game was Black Ops 1

(Info is doxxed)

Gamer reviewer: Hello gamers, I would like to say the new Modern Warfare game is excellent. Looking back, I was too hard on the past 10 games. Activision's latest game is breathtaking. 10/10

 

[Revolutionary]

You're just really wrong. Did you not even bother reading the first page?

Yes, I read the dumb troll's comment and ignored it, like everyone else did. Ever hear the saying "don't feed the trolls"?

I'll check out the video when I have time but I doubt I'll be enlightened by anything Colin Moriarty has to say.

 

[recursive]

I mean I can definitely see why people would be worried having their address, phone number etc out there. It's not a "gamer" thing or an "SJW" vs whatever the extremists on the other side are called thing. It's that there are lots of mentally ill whackjobs in every fanbase for any hobby. People that stalk online celebrities, losers that make death threats etc. No one should have to worry about that kind of shit outside of their public work email.

Do people forget that phone books still exist? And the internet? Information is readily available.

 

[Deleted member 752119]

Do people forget that phone books still exist? And the internet? Information is readily available.

Phone books don't list cell phones and most people don't have landlines anymore. Addresses aren't publicly listed online with owners names in most states and so on.

We have less privacy than ever before and that sucks, but you can still have some expectation of privacy for your cell and home address to not be posted online for any to see. Especially when it's some one who writes about hobbies as all fan bases are full of nutjobs who get butt hurt over others' opinions, losers who stalk online celebs and trolls that just like harassing people.

In any case, there is no excuse for defending a corporation publicly posting thousands of people's information. No matter how one feels about game media people that sucks and no one would want it to happen to them or their families. Empathy is sorely lacking in online communities these days on both sides. This site and places like ResetEra are just full of assholes happy to see shit happen to people on the "other side" or if not happy at least not caring when bad things happen to people they don't like for social/political reasons.

 

[Clear]

You're just really wrong. Did you not even bother reading the first page?



Also, a good video on online harassment:

Ehhh, good video by Colin, but honestly I still bristle at the idea that this is in any way to do with the industry. Its purely a case of social media facilitating shitty people to act in a shitty manner from a "safe" distance. Basically the standard internet effect of emboldening cowards and trolls, but in a format where they can really direct their hatred at a targetted person less well shielded by the quasi-anonymity of the internet.

The truth of the matter is the reason this sort of thing is so prevalent is because its easy. Tossing off abusive tweets, even in the crazy numbers that Colin's stalker was doing, is still an action that can be done, anywhere, anytime, without disrupting whatever else they may be doing. You cannot lose sight of this because otherwise you risk losing perspective about the nature of the threat; a vindictive little loser who spends way too much time tapping away on his phone is a far less terrifying image than what your imagination can conjure up when visualizing what a cyber stalker is.

Lastly, what needs to be done is a study showing the ratio of abuse solely in written/verbal form, to acts actually physically perpetrated in the real world. I'm betting that the difference is astronomical. Because shitposting takes a lot less conviction to the premise than doing anything "real".

 

[zenspider]

Again, they fostered, nurtured, and championed this kind of behavior. This is justice. Sorry if it sucks for you but it is.

I agree, but I'm coming around to the idea that justice as a virtue is overrated, as it's beyond my comprehension what it actually looks like. Patrick Klepeck, et al. sucks, sure, but what do you actually think ought to happen for it? Do you leave it to the equally and opposedly shitty to dispense justice?

More likely, they'll fall into the trap of actually doing something indefensible and all of a sudden the monsters Patrick and others claim lurk in gaming on the "other side" are made real. That doesn't sound like justice to me. It sounds like vindication for them.

Identify every """video game journalist""" on the list who spoke in favor of violence against Trump voters and others who don't cowtow to their cult. Then, beat them within an inch of their pathetic lives.

What the fuck!?

 

[Scopa]

What the fuck!?

Yes and he was permanently banned for it.

 

[JD_Shadow]

Okay, so first, my video about this, but be warned that I also cover another story involving an unrelated topic that someone has decided to go to battle with me over. If I had enough posts here I could make the topic about how Cinematic Venom has been trying to kick the Change the Channel hornet's nest that was a big thing to happen to Channel Awesome back in the day. You might see some comments trying to discredit me over that coming from his channel, but the first thing I talk about is the ESA leak):

Now, as far as this goes, one should find it obvious why the big time journalists are attacking her like they are. I think they are too busy protecting their standing with the ESA, and that might show how much power they could still have over the industry. If these big time people are attacking her because they are too scared of losing press privileges, then this becomes an even bigger problem. I bet with how the ESA has fallen in recent years (the lack of relevance E3 has had being the main evidence), there might be added pressure to not let this be something that brings them down. There's no way to put the toothpaste back into the tube, but they will shift the blame of who spilled the toothpaste so they can make more.

 

[Starlight Lotice]

Tereible error on the ESAs part and will only divide and cause distrust between officials and fans.

Journalists with private numbers, home and e-mail addresses should have not done this but it is still terrible and will cause the crazies to go after them.

This could in theory kill the whole SJW brigade as they can be exposed more easily if they inject it in the articles now.

I wonder if this was planned now to stop people with an agenda insulting their games?

 

[Kharnivore2099]

A massive blunder on the ESA's part.

I think the most shocking thing has been the response from large game news sites and journalists, who seem to be trying to pin blame on Sophia Narwitz for reporting the situation. Despite taken the precautions needed so as not to throw more fuel on the fire. The way they are trying to paint the situation is fairly despicable and in my opinion, totally justifies a specific movement that they said was making baseless claims about that side of the industry.

 

[FrostyJ93]

I woold not be surprised if E3 2020 gets cancelled.