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ESPN Page 2: The worst draft picks in the last 25 years

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DMczaf

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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=list/worstdraftpicks

12. Todd Marinovich
"Robo QB." The Raiders, perhaps out of loyalty to his father, Marv, a former Oakland lineman and coach, took the mediocre USC QB with their first pick (24th overall) in 1991, and handed him a three-year, $2.27 million contract. He played only eight games during his two years in the NFL.

:lol

1. Sam Bowie
In 1984, the Rockets took Hakeem Olajuwon with the first pick. The Trailblazers, with the No. 2 selection, passed on Michael Jordan. They passed on Charles Barkley. They passed on John Stockton. Because their scouting told them that seven-foot Kentucky center Sam Bowie was the man. He averaged 10 ppg in an injury-riddled career.

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The original Sam I Am!
 

Suranga3

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9. Alexandre Daigle
Supposed to be the next Mario Lemieux, and Ottawa picked him first overall in the 1993 NHL draft. Best NHL season: 51 points.

^
I have his rookie card. What a waste for the senetors, at least hy made up for it with better draft picks in the years that followed.
 

Seth C

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Eminem said:
they shouldn't call people busts anymore. just call them bowie's

Not really fair. He was injured. You can't predict that. It's certainly better than drafting a player who simply doesn't live up to the hype for no particular reason. Nevermind that it is made worse by what Jordan ended up being. No one knew it then, though.
 

DJ_Tet

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Your boy Bob Knight I believe told the Trailblazers to draft Jordan under any circumstance.

That means little though, it's all revisionist history.

This is best evidenced by Mel Kiper claiming that Jim Druckenmiller should have been a Top Ten pick, and was the best QB in the draft.

Busts can happen to anyone, I don't think injury busts like Bowie should be in the same category as drug busts (heh) such as Marijuanavich and Chris Washburn.
 

DJ_Tet

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He didn't say no one knew Jordan would be good. He made the Olympic team and was drafted third. What he meant was no one knew Jordan would be *arguably* the best player of All-Time, except maybe Loki ;)

Hell, there's a reason why the joke is "Dean Smith is the only person who can hold Jordan to under 20 points a game." Jordan didn't go from being cut from his freshman HS team to the best player ever in three years when he arrived on campus. It took a little longer than that. Hell, he isn't even the best ACC player ever based on college contribution.

David Thompson is the best, and very strong cases for Christian Laettner and Len Bias can be made as well.
 

Nerevar

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DJ_Tet said:
David Thompson is the best, and very strong cases for Christian Laettner and Len Bias can be made as well.


There are a lot of people who believe Christian Laettner to be the best pure college player of all time. I think Len Bias would probably get a lot of votes too if it wasn't for how it all ended.
 

DJ_Tet

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Nerevar said:
There are a lot of people who believe Christian Laettner to be the best pure college player of all time. I think Len Bias would probably get a lot of votes too if it wasn't for how it all ended.



I would be one of those, but hey, I'm a biased dookie ;)

Len Bias doesn't have the team success that Laettner, Thompson, and Jordan had, but of people who saw him play, he deserves mention. The main point of my post was that no one knew that Jordan would be AS GOOD as he was in the pros when he came out in college. He arguably isn't in the top three in his conference in college history, but even as a Jordan-smiter I'd have a hard time keeping him out of the top three pro players of all time.

My ACC rank is Laettner, Thompson, and Jordan for the record.
 
This seems more like "25 that just happened to occur to me" instead of a thought-out, researched list.

He should have had the balls to put Len Bias on the list.
 

DJ_Tet

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-jinx- said:
Len Bias SHOULD have been on that list. They pussed out, plain and simple.


I'll have to respectfully (something you guys should learn about) disagree.

A guy made a mistake and paid for it with his life. If this was a list of teams hurt worst by draft picks, then yeah, 86'-87' Celts are AT THE TOP of the list.

Bias can't be a bust, cause he never played. He died a day after the draft.
 

DJ_Tet

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HalfPastNoon said:
Heath Shuler.



As a Panther fan I was pissed that Shuler came out early, since I knew the Panthers would have either the 1 or 2 pick a year later to draft the homeboy from NC.

We ended up getting the no. 1 pick, and trading it for the no. 5 pick and a couple of late picks and taking Kerry Collins. Considering what happened with Collins in Carolina, it's hard to argue that Shuler would have been that much worse ;)
 

Dilbert

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A bust is a high draft pick who never fulfilled his/her promise...for WHATEVER reason. "To whom much is given, much is expected." I daresay that having NO career because you ended up dead qualifies as one hell of a bust.

His death -- whether typical behavior or not -- fucked over the Celtics for YEARS.

Ricky Williams is going to go down as a huge bust as well -- given his talent, he should have had a far more productive career. Instead, he chose to smoke shitloads of weed. Pathetic.
 

DJ_Tet

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The overwhelming majority believes that the first time Bias did coke was his last. He wasn't a bust. He was a poster-child to "Just Say No."

There is no reason to put him on a list like this. I agree with your premise, but...well if you don't see where I'm coming from, I won't change your mind.


There's a big difference between Bias and Washburn. One threw away riches on cocaine. Another threw away his life on one night.
 

DJ_Tet

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-jinx- said:
"To whom much is given, much is expected."



He was never given anything besides a bunch of free coke on fateful night. He didn't squander his signing bonus and salary on it.
 

DJ_Tet

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-jinx- said:
His death -- whether typical behavior or not -- fucked over the Celtics for YEARS.



Without a doubt. The end of a dynasty for sure.


DJ_Tet said:
If this was a list of teams hurt worst by draft picks, then yeah, 86'-87' Celts are AT THE TOP of the list.


Somewhere you have to draw a line. What about the NHL Draft Pick that was killed last year while riding with the ROY in Atlanta? Was he a bust? There is a line of tastefulness that doesn't need to be crossed in these types of lists, therefore he doesn't NEED to be on this list.

He's probably the most tragic high draft pick in history. Len Bias is his own list.
 

etiolate

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15. Pervis Ellison
The 6'10" swingman from Louisville was the No. 1 overall NBA pick in 1989, selected by Sacramento. Over the next 11 seasons, he averaged about 40 games a year, and finished with career averages of 9.5 points and 6.7 rebounds per game.

Nervous Pervis!
 

crumbs

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Tony Mandarich should have been higher. I went to school in Wisconsin and Packer fans are still pissed about passing up Barry Sanders.

I'd also agree that injury busts like Bowie shouldn't be in the same catagory as some of these true busts.
 

Willco

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crumbs said:
Tony Mandarich should have been higher. I went to school in Wisconsin and Packer fans are still pissed about passing up Barry Sanders.

I'd also agree that injury busts like Bowie shouldn't be in the same catagory as some of these true busts.

Tony Mandarich shouldn't be on there at all. He was originally a bust, but he was a dependable, solid start in his comeback years.
 

crumbs

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Willco said:
Tony Mandarich shouldn't be on there at all. He was originally a bust, but he was a dependable, solid start in his comeback years.


Coming out of MSU, people were talking like he was going to change the game. That hype, plus all the great players taken around him make him a bust, regardless of being an medicore player the rest of his career.

(My anti-MSU bias may be coloring my opinion a bit)
 

Willco

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crumbs said:
Coming out of MSU, people were talking like he was going to change the game. That hype, plus all the great players taken around him make him a bust, regardless of being an medicore player the rest of his career.

(My anti-MSU bias may be coloring my opinion a bit)

I think initially he was a bust with Green Bay. There's no doubt. But his comeback in 1995 resulted in three, very productive years with the Colts.

Busts are reserved for people that don't contribute shit. There are plenty of high picks that go on to have mediocre or decent careers, and we don't put them on a Top 25 list or anything.
 

Willco

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Teddman said:
God, did he suck. Didn't he make like $27 million? For playing a handful of games!

And here's what he's doing now:

http://www.heathshuler.com/

:D

HAHAHA!

Over the past year, Heath Shuler Real Estate has bought and sold more than a thousand homes and properties for the people of Knoxville. Don't trust your transaction to nameless faces. Put your trust and confidence in someone you already know - Heath Shuler and the team at Heath Shuler Real Estate.

Yes, put your money into the second biggest QB bust in the NFL, second only to Ryan Leaf.
 
Being a Cleveland Browns fan I bore witness to quite possibly the biggest bust since Cryin Leaf....

Tim Couch.... goes from 1st pick, to sitting the bench and being behind lifetime back up Kelly Holcomb. Hell Couch even sat the bench when Holcomb had a broken leg, HOLCOMB STILL PLAYED!

To getting released by the Browns, sent to the Packers and then released and not picked up by any other teams.

Way to go Butch Davis!

Now we have the magical, limp wristed Jeff Garcia with his astonishing 0.00 QB rating.

What a great time to be a Browns fan.
 
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