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Europa Universalis IV |OT| A Game of Blobs
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It is actually possible. Move your capital to the "connecting" province between continents, which I think is the Sinai province for Asia to Africa, and then it'll let you move from Sinai to Damascus. Annoying you have to do it in that two step process, though.
I sold all those provinces to the Ottomans because he was declaring war on me and taking my shit every 5 years.
Wound up baiting him into attacking me so he took Oman, and then it automatically moved my shit to Cape.
EU4 has given me a burning hatred of the Ottomans.
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If you think Oman makes you hate the Ottomans, play Albania. You will rage.
Sye d'Burns
Member
I just picked it up this morning for $3.49.
I'm assuming they had ran out of keys when you checked, because when I tried to buy it yesterday afternoon it wasn't listed.
Sye d'Burns
Member
Man, I am so getting this:
Harry Turtledove and Paradox, it's like the peanut buttercup of alternate history. I can't believe I didn't know about this before now.
http://www.paradoxplaza.com/books/eu4anthology
Harry Turtledove and Paradox, it's like the peanut buttercup of alternate history. I can't believe I didn't know about this before now.
- A protectorate is not a bad idea, the reduced tech cost is nice on top of the protection, and until you've expanded a ton, your trade income isn't going to be that massive anyway, you'll mostly rely on your one gold province
- Do not ally with the Mamluks, it will get you into a ton of wars you don't want to be in, mainly with the Ottos
- Do not expand too aggressively early on, if you become large enough, the Mamluks will see you as a threat rather than something to protect
- If you make it to 1550 or later, you will get an event chain that will give you good bonuses and excellent relations with the Portuguese, who are in search of Prester John. Rely on this.
- Grab exploration ideas and hop around the cape as quick as possible to get to European provinces which you can westernize off of
- Also, just an extra little thing, early on, the Arabian countries have a tendency to bash each other's faces in. If Yemen loses, and you have a claim ready, you can jump on and immediately siege everything. Meaning you don't fight their troops, but you can occupy all their stuff and vassalize. That will give you a buffer from the rest of Arabia as well as an ally with better units. It goes without saying that you shouldn't annex them before you've finished westernizing.
Jesus fucking christ.
DDRJake (of Ryukyu WC fame) is at it again, this time with the most mindblowing exploit I've ever seen.
DDRJake (of Ryukyu WC fame) is at it again, this time with the most mindblowing exploit I've ever seen.
Well shit, I know what I'm doing after I write my last exam tomorrow.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Youtuber discovered One Wierd Trick to conquer the world.
Paradox hates him.
Paradox hates him.
Holy crap that exploit, wow. Impressive work.
What is the exploit (for those of us on trains through the English countryside)?
Starting as Ming you get military access through Tibet and a few other countries so you can reach Delhi. Give Delhi a loan, which they will surely fail to pay, giving you casus belli. Through some shenanigans you get the province of "Roh" as a core. (You can core a province if it is next to a vassal ) This allows you to move your capital to Roh, at which point you will get a decision to Form the Mughal Empire. Doing so removes the harsh "Inward Perfection" buffs from China, whilst leaving the factions system and all of their bonuses intact. This, plus the Timurid ideas you have now, mean you can basically core provinces for free.
Mgoblue201
Won't stop picking the right nation
DDRJake found a way to remove the inward perfection modifier from Ming while retaining the benefits of the faction system. As a result, once he puts the temple faction in charge, he can instantly core any province for barely any adm points. He can also use this exploit to switch factions and cheaply increase his technology level. Essentially, the inward perfection malus is tied to Ming, but the faction system is not. The way to rid himself of inward perfection is to tag switch. Normally it's not possible for Ming to do this. However, due to some quirk in the programming, going bankrupt can also switch your culture. So apparently (I only watched part of the video) DDRJake conquered a province in northern India, released his Chinese provinces as vassals, and succumbed to bankruptcy, which allowed him to switch to the Iranian culture group and the Muslim religion. This allowed him to form the Mughal Empire and get rid of inward perfection. Plus he has the Muslim piety bonuses and the Timurid ideas.
There is one thing I didn't quite catch. He mentioned that, due to the way his vassal income contributes to the loan amount but not the interest payment, it would take him 33,000 loans to eventually go bankrupt. I'm not sure how he got around that problem.
I really wanna get into this game. I watched that clip, but I'm not exactly sure I understand what happened, can anybody break it down for me?
EDIT: Ah, there ya go. Just saw the post above mine.
TiredGamer
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That was about timing the loans: full-size Ming can get ~500 loans that garner up to 10K ducats, but as the two-province Ming he would need tens of thousands of loans to get the same amount (and guarantee bankruptcy).
The bankruptcy quirk is a leftover piece of scripting from EU3
TiredGamer
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Someone is using Sabotage Reputation on me, obviously.
He's joking.
Facism
Member
hours melt away with this game. Glad i got into it 
European expansion had to stop after taking territory from Hungary because that little shite Austria has a bit of an entourage and Venice with Castille are cunts. Managed to take the Eastern coast of the Mediterranean from the Mamluks all the way to Alexandria, whilst making Vassals out of Tripoli and Fez. 10 years time i'll own the North African Coast. Mamluks ain't shit these days.
I'm allied with Crimea but they're being very aggressive in regards to eastward expansion. Timurids, likewise. Going to be a shitstorm when one of these alliances breaks down because every fucker in the vicinity is allied with all 3 of us.
European expansion had to stop after taking territory from Hungary because that little shite Austria has a bit of an entourage and Venice with Castille are cunts. Managed to take the Eastern coast of the Mediterranean from the Mamluks all the way to Alexandria, whilst making Vassals out of Tripoli and Fez. 10 years time i'll own the North African Coast. Mamluks ain't shit these days.
I'm allied with Crimea but they're being very aggressive in regards to eastward expansion. Timurids, likewise. Going to be a shitstorm when one of these alliances breaks down because every fucker in the vicinity is allied with all 3 of us.
Nah, you're just tired
TiredGamer
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I'll beat up the Timurids, that's always a good way to farm prestige.
I hate the AI peace making algorithms. I am playing a Byzantium game now and I had an alliance with Spain. The Ottomans declared war on me and Spain took over the leadership of the war. And in the first part of the war everything went smooth (mostly because I was outsmarting the ottomans army and got some big wins). We reached a +22% war score and although meanwhile another war started Spain did nothing to sign peace at this time. They signed it much later with two of my provinces gone, our alliance gone, their ducats and prestige trashed. Stupid AI. If I didn't have the alliance with them I would have been way better.
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...why did you not unclick the option allowing your allies to give away your stuff when Spain started losing?
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Huh. This is why I just don't ally AI nations unless I absolutely have to.
Mgoblue201
Won't stop picking the right nation
Even if Spain was willing to make peace (and they were probably not), the Ottomans wouldn't have accepted it. You need something like 40 or 50 war score to sign white peace early in the war. I think that's fair. With only 22 score, the war is still indecisive, and the Ottomans proved that it was advantageous to keep going. Of course, assuming the Ottomans wanted white peace, Spain never would have accepted it, because the AI can't recognize when it's in danger of losing a war even as it's still technically winning. That's a problem with most strategy games I've played, and I'm not sure what the solution would be. Maybe the AI should be more willing to accept white peace if it can't project military power or has no strategy interest in a certain region (which is probably more difficult to implement than it sounds). Or perhaps a simple palliative measure is to simply let the player signal to the AI that it wants to accept white peace as soon as possible.
I would think that the AI does factor in strength and will seek white peace even if they're ahead in warscore if suddenly they lose a bunch of troops or whatever. Although perhaps the flaw in this is that it looks at this at a war by war basis, and not at all of their wars at once. Thus if they get into another war and are suddenly in over their heads, they wouldn't see that because each individual war they are in still looks to be in their favour. Perhaps if they considered a more holistic set of variables they would be better at figuring out when to white peace and such.
I think in a defensive war it makes sense for AI (as an ally and leader) to sign a peace as soon as possible, unless it "sees" a huge potential advantage. I think a leader of an alliance should behave differently if it's not the one directly targeted by the war and it has no real interest in the attacker's provinces.
i_am_ben
running_here_and_there
Finally wiped out Christianity and on Easter no less!
God this was hard. Even though I didn't play it on Ironman it was still probably the hardest game I've attempted.
This game had a lot of challenges:
Taking out Portugal and Castile before they could colonise
Taking out France's coastline before it could colonise
Taking out England whilst desperately trying to track down its colonies
Stopping Moscovy before it could get to Siberia
Westernising whilst at war with both France and Russia (I noticed France had no manpower and the opportunity was too good to pass up)
Taking out a Commonwealth sized Poland with local nobility
Realising I couldn't convert Roma
Realising that if I unite Islam i'll have just enough to convert Roma
Seeing that Japan was being overrun by Catholic rebels despite the fact a Christian had never set foot in Asia (This was truly rage inducing)
Being absolutely despised by every county in the Holy Roman Empire
Breaking truce after truce after truce with the HRE coalition.
Rebels Rebels Rebels
Mann I don't know how people like DDR Jake do this shit. It was not fun at all.
i_am_ben
running_here_and_there
Well I was tossing up whether I could feed the HRE electors Muslim provinces so I could flip them and they'd elect me.
I wasn't sure whether it would work though, or whether it would be any quicker than straight conquest.
Just a friendly PSA:
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Gamer's Gate has both CK2 and EUIV and a bunch of DLC for 75% off. You can get each Digital Extreme Edition for $11.25. Pretty damn good deal. I just picked up Old Gods for like $3
Greenmangaming has it also at 75 % off now: http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/de/en/pc/games/strategy/europa-universalis-iv/
Only saw it, because I wondered why it was in the Topseller list.
Only saw it, because I wondered why it was in the Topseller list.
Man I am thinking I should try Portugal and try to go for "peacefull" colonization....
Been trying to follow advice from here and Quill18 to do Muscovy, but getting hammerede every freaking time because the same thing happens.
I go to war with Novgorod and as soon as I am wiping them out, Kazak declares war on me and I end up in a two front war and get slaughtered...
Any advice? Any help is much appreciated.
Been trying to follow advice from here and Quill18 to do Muscovy, but getting hammerede every freaking time because the same thing happens.
I go to war with Novgorod and as soon as I am wiping them out, Kazak declares war on me and I end up in a two front war and get slaughtered...
Any advice?
Any help is much appreciated.FlyingSaucer
Banned
I've started a new game as Burgundy and damn, I have a hard time replicating my strategies from EU3 : annexing the HRE OPMs is costly (and the Austrian emperor is warry of any of my tentatives), securing a corridor between Bourgogne and the low-lands is a headache, and there is France at the doors, patiently waiting for any mishaps... I'm at loss defining a good strategy for a secure expansion ^^;;
I hate Westernization. I'm currently playing an Apache game (Ironman, random new world). I had level 12 for Admin and Diplo and level 16 for Military,+3 stability and around 500 points each when I started the Westernization. I have a big territory and I had 79 regiments. I was upping the stability to +2 as soon as it started (after the drop due to the Westernization) but immediately I got 3 events in a row that dropped it to -1. I managed to run it for 10 years, keeping the revolts under control, but then there were like 3-4 revolts popping up at one time so my 55000 man power went down the drain and after 3 more years I had to stop it.
Now I'm gathering more points and will try again, but it really kills me.
Now I'm gathering more points and will try again, but it really kills me.
Maybe next time stay small before you Westernize to keep it easier to manage? I guess that makes it harder to deal with the Europeans though.
Yes, that's a better strategy. But I managed to "connect" to a Western nation almost too late because of where I was on the map and how the map is. I would have lost a lot of time for nothing.
I had the manpower fully recharged, but I didn't have all the buildings in all the provinces, that is what I meant.
Ah, I see.