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Exclusive: Democrats lose ground with millennials - Reuters/Ipsos poll

Dontero

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16.000 Millennials via online poll.

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Turns out that speaking constantly badly about sex and race of voters has consequences, probably it means also that democrats will lose again new seats unless something is changed.

The shift was especially dramatic among young white men, who two years ago favored Democrats but now say they favor Republicans over Democrats by a margin of 46 to 37 percent, the Reuters/Ipsos poll showed.

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Typhares

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What's interesting is that in the All category the republican made minimal gains but the dems made big loss. So the non white are also not happy but don't want to go to the GOP I guess.
 

zelo-ca

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Btw this poll was from the end of april. I still think that it's the same now but just wanted to mention that.
 
Why would any straight white male support the Democratic party when said party has made them enemy number 1? And I say this as a American male of Puerto Rican ancestry.
 
Now is the time for the Republicans to start leaning Libertarian.

Pro-self ownership (drug rights, abortion, etc.), anti-affirmative action, etc.
 

Dontero

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Now is the time for the Republicans to start leaning Libertarian. Pro-self ownership (drug rights, abortion, etc.), anti-affirmative action, etc.

What US needs is at least 2 more parties.

Libertarians (small gov, people individual rights)
Socialists (caring as collective for various classes of society, unions, helping poor etc.)
This way other two parties would reallocate:
Democrats (mostly about workers and workers rights)
Republicans (conservatives, tradition, history)

In current format from what i see as outsider both Democrats and Republicans often take conflicting values.
Like Democrats marriage with socialists which wins them minorities but they lost workers.
Or Republicans marriage with Libertans where republicans win votes with religious people with abortion and lose libertarians with Patriot Act or mentioned abortion.
 
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MayauMiao

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Why would any straight white male support the Democratic party when said party has made them enemy number 1? And I say this as a American male of Puerto Rican ancestry.

Its amazing how they expect guilt tripping white men will get them any more support from white men.
 
Its amazing how they expect guilt tripping white men will get them any more support from white men.
White men aren't a demographic to them. Since their views are thoroughly ideological, they want to "run a clean game" and upend society without the help of the white men.

It is straight out of the Communist playbook: first it was the Tsarists who needed to go, then the peasant-farmer kulaks who'd gained land by standing up to the Tsarists, then the Liberals and Intellectuals who'd been preaching Party Values got the bullet too because their altruistic and idealistic values didn't mesh with the new, pragmatic Gov't...

Out with the old and in with the new, over and over, even if it contradicts past values. That sums up the last 50 years of the Democratic Party.
 
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What US needs is at least 2 more parties.

Libertarians (small gov, people individual rights)
Socialists (caring as collective for various classes of society, unions, helping poor etc.)
This way other two parties would reallocate:
Democrats (mostly about workers and workers rights)
Republicans (conservatives, tradition, history)

In current format from what i see as outsider both Democrats and Republicans often take conflicting values.
Like Democrats marriage with socialists which wins them minorities but they lost workers.
Or Republicans marriage with Libertans where republicans win votes with religious people with abortion and lose libertarians with Patriot Act or mentioned abortion.

I don't think that would work well for the Libertarians. Americans aren't driven to the polls by the government "not" doing things to them or others - people are driven to the polls by the government doing something for them and/or doing things to people they dislike. I think you can get to the point where the former does occur, but it takes time and prominence of a successful party with some amount of successful policies.
 

eclipze

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Why would any straight white male support the Democratic party when said party has made them enemy number 1? And I say this as a American male of Puerto Rican ancestry.

As a strait white male in the US, I don’t feel like enemy #1 to the DNC. No white guilt here. I want everyone who isn’t as privileged as me to have the same. Pretty simple.
 
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Joe T.

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As a strait white male in the US, I don’t feel like enemy #1 to the DNC. No white guilt here. I want everyone who isn’t as privileged as me to have the same. Pretty simple.

I have no guilt either, but it's clear they wouldn't value my opinion the same way they would value the opinion coming from a woman or a minority and that has rubbed off on many of their supporters, supporters that too often wind up pushing it to extremes. I understand and sympathize with the call for empowering those within our society that feel they're not on an even playing field, however if you're going to do it by villanizing an entire demographic you have to understand that a backlash could become a possibility. It's like using a blunt instrument (e.g.: "white males and their toxic masculinity!") in place of a scalpel (cutting out person X from our lives, should we deem it necessary, rather than using him/her as a representation of an entire race, gender or age group for our societal problems).

I think the best thing that can happen to the US right now, politically speaking anyway, is a third party uprising of some sort which would force both the GOP and Dems to adapt/improve their positions at a quicker pace. Ross Perot got 20% of the vote in the 1992 general election against Bill Clinton and George H. W. Bush, and while that was nowhere near enough votes to put him in actual contention, especially considering he didn't win a single electoral vote, imagine if someone like Bernie ran against Trump and Hillary in 2016 and was able to pull in similar support. It could have laid the foundation for that third, viable party because he hasn't gone anywhere and those following in his footsteps would be posing a threat to the established order of things.

A man can dream...
 
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