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Fall 2011 Anime Thread |OT2| The Tampire is Coming

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Spirited Away is good, no one is complaining about that.

People ignore the 'dumbledore was gay' stuff, just dismiss this shit too.
 
In any case, does it really matter if it changed Chihiro or not?
The show is awesome. It was one big acid trip, Satoshi Kon style.

Acid trips are all well and good, but I like my movies to have a little more substance to them in the final analysis. If none of what Chihiro went through had any point, then the movie itself becomes a pointless waste of time. Kon's narratives can be out there, but they usually have some thematic and character development that draws to a conclusion. When that becomes weaker, as in Paprika, the movie becomes weaker no matter how many crazy visuals you shove into it.
 
Acid trips are all well and good, but I like my movies to have a little more substance to them in the final analysis. If none of what Chihiro went through had any point, then the movie itself becomes a pointless waste of time. Kon's narratives can be out there, but they usually have some thematic and character development that draws to a conclusion. When that becomes weaker, as in Paprika, the movie becomes weaker no matter how many crazy visuals you shove into it.

Lol substance. Oh, you.
 
Higurashi no naku koro ni kira

Ep1: ....

Ep2: ....... what?

Ep3: .... . .. zzz

Ep4: hey this looks like an actual higurazzzzzzzzz


Series summary: Well, fuck.
 
Acid trips are all well and good, but I like my movies to have a little more substance to them in the final analysis. If none of what Chihiro went through had any point, then the movie itself becomes a pointless waste of time. Kon's narratives can be out there, but they usually have some thematic and character development that draws to a conclusion. When that becomes weaker, as in Paprika, the movie becomes weaker no matter how many crazy visuals you shove into it.

Well of course there's a point, the point is that Japan is doomed and everything you do to change that is futile.
 
I have a bit of a strange request.
Can you guys list the most HNNNGH episodes of the main shows people are watching right now (example, episode 11 of Ika Musume for Dat short hair and certain episodes of Ben-TO for Ice witchness) because I dont have al ot of free time lately and I want to indulge in as much cute as possible before I have to go to work Thursday evening.
I will catch up on the shows later but I just want the cute stuff for now.

Not from this season, but this is pretty :cajun
 
Not from this season, but this is pretty :cajun

so wrong but so hnnng

High-Score - 3&4

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Best flash entertainment! All animes will look like this in five years .
 
An interesting thing to comment, that Branduil has helped me to remember with this post (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=33647562&postcount=3059), is that sense of self-entitlement we sometimes have towards other people's (and sometimes totally personal) works.

Of course, everyone has their opinions and impressions to share, and all are worth of respect, but also with the utmost respect we must behave towards someone's creation. The problem comes when we want to adapt or modify this personal vision into our own using our preferences formed from an acquired knowledge.

Seriously, I think we are here to learn from others and accept what they try to voice through their own experiences or imagination, and not confront them. The creator (or creators) objective is always worthy of our absolute trust.
 
An interesting thing to comment, that Branduil has helped me to remember with this post (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=33647562&postcount=3059), is that sense of self-entitlement we sometimes have towards other people's (and sometimes totally personal) works.

Of course, everyone has their opinions and impressions to share, and all are worth of respect, but also with the utmost respect we must behave towards someone's creation. The problem comes when we want to adapt or modify this personal vision into our own using our preferences formed from an acquired knowledge.

Seriously, I think we are here to learn from others and accept what they try to voice through their own experiences or imagination, and not confront them. The creator (or creators) objective is always worthy of our absolute trust.

I love the shows/movies where the creator pulls a PASG ending. Something that makes no fucking sense except to shock people.
 
An interesting thing to comment, that Branduil has helped me to remember with this post (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=33647562&postcount=3059), is that sense of self-entitlement we sometimes have towards other people's (and sometimes totally personal) works.

Of course, everyone has their opinions and impressions to share, and all are worth of respect, but also with the utmost respect we must behave towards someone's creation. The problem comes when we want to adapt or modify this personal vision into our own using our preferences formed from an acquired knowledge.

Seriously, I think we are here to learn from others and accept what they try to voice through their own experiences or imagination, and not confront them. The creator (or creators) objective is always worthy of our absolute trust.

Anyway, I need more HNNNGH. Time is running out!
 
I love the shows/movies where the creator pulls a PASG ending. Something that makes no fucking sense except to shock people.
Yeah, that is a good example, and I applaud them for what they did, because that was their series and they can do what they want with it.
 
Acid trips are all well and good, but I like my movies to have a little more substance to them in the final analysis. If none of what Chihiro went through had any point, then the movie itself becomes a pointless waste of time. Kon's narratives can be out there, but they usually have some thematic and character development that draws to a conclusion. When that becomes weaker, as in Paprika, the movie becomes weaker no matter how many crazy visuals you shove into it.

Whether or not something is
actually remembered
doesn't necessarily mean the work as a whole is pointless. The events that took place had weight an meaning at the time they happened.
 
Whether or not something is
actually remembered
doesn't necessarily mean the work as a whole is pointless. The events that took place had weight an meaning at the time they happened.

Yes, but no ultimate impact on that which we care about, unless the lack of impact is what matters. However, the lack of impact isn't particularly signaled as important, and the positive impact it had on Chihiro, who is moving to a new place with new people, was a very apparent theme in the work. For all of the events to be rendered moot, the narrative purpose behind the entire journey falls apart and dulls the premise. What would be the point without Chihiro retaining her experience?
 
Yes, but no ultimate impact on that which we care about, unless the lack of impact is what matters. However, the lack of impact isn't particularly signaled as important,
and the positive impact it had on Chihiro, who is moving to a new place with new people, was a very apparent theme in the work. For all of the events to be rendered moot, the narrative purpose behind the entire journey falls apart and dulls the premise. What would be the point without Chihiro retaining her experience?

Ask Hayao Miyazaki because that seems to be how he wrote it! You know, Miyazaki never actually plans the ending to his stories when he starts drawing them out? They just 'happen'. So there you go.
 
Whether or not something is
actually remembered
doesn't necessarily mean the work as a whole is pointless. The events that took place had weight an meaning at the time they happened.
Exactly! And it is the spectator who can learn from that. The journey is the finality, and you can see what happened with her like in one of those prevention educational videos!
 
I don't have a lot of time to respond to anything specific re: the Angel's Egg discussion, and I know I'm a few pages late, but I will say that I don't think it holds a morally ambiguous (or negative) view on Christianity specifically but rather on religion & faith in general. It just appropriates Christian symbolism, likely because that's what Osh was familiar with, to communicate that. IMO. Also, I know I probably pimp this out too much, but Night on the Galactic Railroad also makes for an interesting cross-reference when it comes to existentially-themed anime films heavy with religious symbolism made in 1985 (!), though it incorporates more than just Christianity and is a bit less esoteric.

Also, I really enjoyed that discussion because it's nice sometimes to talk about something other than moh-ay.

The girl in Angel's Egg is pretty moe.
 
I don't have a lot of time to respond to anything specific re: the Angel's Egg discussion, and I know I'm a few pages late, but I will say that I don't think it holds a morally ambiguous (or negative) view on Christianity specifically but rather on religion & faith in general. It just appropriates Christian symbolism, likely because that's what Osh was familiar with, to communicate that. IMO. Also, I know I probably pimp this out too much, but Night on the Galactic Railroad also makes for an interesting cross-reference when it comes to existentially-themed anime films heavy with religious symbolism made in 1985 (!), though it incorporates more than just Christianity and is a bit less esoteric.

If you reject God as a concept, certainly you'll be rejecting every specific conception of God as well.

And her hair is so HNNNNGH

Second best anime hair.
 
Looks like some Eva quotes. I can't do them any real justice with my poor Japanese skills, but these are some rough translation attempts.

"I feel warm in this room."

"Lecher! Idiot! Pervert! I can't believe this!"

"I guess it's alright if you stay."

My grammar fails me here. "If you're asleep, quickly get up. Don't leave, come back!"

"A bath is life's laundry."(?)

"I'm not a doll."

Where did you see these?

Thanks. I'm currently staying in the Evangelion hotel room in Japan and supposedly some of them are questions that I'm supposed to answer.
 
Tamayura hitotose END:
What's more "mono no aware" than New Years?
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And of course, one last happy crying scene:
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Also, I was can't believe I missed this:
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SatoJun -> Working!! -> SatoJun. The voice actress seems to be able to play the impertinent young rascal really well.

Of course, the series as a whole is pat and cliche, since it's really just SatoJun replaying the greatest hits in a new setting, but he is good at what he does and it's not really a surprise that this show turned out well. You compare this to say, Croisee from last season, and you can tell that this was just better assembled as a television series.

At this point, I probably wouldn't mind if he made another one of these just because it's probably guaranteed to be good, if not great. And heck, even if it means he needs to do another paycheck show like Phi Brain, so be it.
 
[Chihayafuru 12]

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Oh sweet merciful heaven, this weeks episode is the true return to form after a couple of so-so episodes. They really try their best to make the karuta matches interesting and frankly, while they succeed to an extent that is commendable, it's still ultimately just karuta and I don't really enjoy a whole episode devoted to a single match, even if it is at tournament level. I much prefer to see the characters grow and develop and interact in the world around them as it provides a nice contrast.

For our central team karuta is one of the most important things in their life and, like all good shows that focus in on a singular topic, the show mostly treats karuta like something that is important. But, unlike other shows that focus down onto a single subject, Chihayafuru also gives us the perspective of the characters who don't particularly care for karuta, or even know what it is, they're sceptical about the whole thing. They seem to serve as a stand in for the audience as, for the most part, I doubt the audience for this show particularly cares about karuta either. However, the main characters enthusiasm and love of karuta seems to rub off on these 'sceptics' and turn them into converts, which is just what the show is trying to do to the audience. It wants us to care about karuta too, whether we do or not is a different matter. I'm sure its working for someone.

In terms of just character development a hell of a lot happened this episode:
Retro was given some more character development than before, showing that he's a slightly more well rounded character than we've been led to believe. 'The Empress' has moved from someone who didn't care about karuta to someone who has become far more intrigued in the 'sport'. The three 'trainees' in the karuta club have gotten very serious about improving their skills. Chihaya's relationship with her family has been developed and expanded upon, in a manner which tied very neatly into the wider idea of 'how do outsiders view karuta?'. That's quite a lot of stuff packed into one episode!

It's not just the story that was improved this week, but I feel that the direction was certainly better than last weeks outing. The pacing was snappier, the cinematography was interesting and the editing neatly matched the action, becoming playful or serious as the mood required. It was good stuff.

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[Chihayafuru 12]

In terms of just character development a hell of a lot happened this episode:
Retro was given some more character development than before, showing that he's a slightly more well rounded character than we've been led to believe. 'The Empress' has moved from someone who didn't care about karuta to someone who has become far more intrigued in the 'sport'. The three 'trainees' in the karuta club have gotten very serious about improving their skills. Chihaya's relationship with her family has been developed and expanded upon, in a manner which tied very neatly into the wider idea of 'how do outsiders view karuta?'. That's quite a lot of stuff packed into one episode!

The best thing is, all of this is so very cliche, but the writing elevates the subject matter and makes it exciting to watch. The fact that the pacing was just really snappy meant that you didn't get a chance to dwell on all the normal beats either.
 
Really? I haven't watched since somewhere around ep. 5... I'm still trying to decide whether to go back to it or not.
The better episodes have been more entertaining with the absence of all that forced exposition into the backstory, but cool shit happening isn't enough for me to label those episodes much better when the many problems I have with the show still remain. Mainly, how they're developing the ongoing plot. Not a fan of how they've been using flashbacks either when they should have already dedicated at least some of that character development in the earlier episodes, and the writing still remains awkward and unnatural in some instances when exposition is projected.
 
[Chihayafuru 12]

Oh sweet merciful heaven, this weeks episode is the true return to form after a couple of so-so episodes. They really try their best to make the karuta matches interesting and frankly, while they succeed to an extent that is commendable, it's still ultimately just karuta and I don't really enjoy a whole episode devoted to a single match, even if it is at tournament level. I much prefer to see the characters grow and develop and interact in the world around them as it provides a nice contrast.
You to will come to see the wondrous beauty of Karuta before the show is done, Jex.
 
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