ISee
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Saw a PC Pip boy edition unboxing. It's one DVD (not all data obviously, similar to the standard PC edition) + the code.
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Saw a PC Pip boy edition unboxing. It's one DVD (not all data obviously, similar to the standard PC edition) + the code.
TheLegendOfMart
Banned
Bethesda have been putting out 'visually subpar' games for years compared to the competition. Not sure why people expected anything different from them.
I'd imagine you are the same people that would have a hissy fit if they took twice as long to make the next Elder Scrolls if they had to create an engine from scratch just to satisfy the whiners.
People cry for more Fallout, they make more Fallout and its somehow not good enough, never change internet.
Rawket Lawnchair
Member
Why make good graphics when some other poor people will mod the game and then sell the mod on Steam?
Hip Hop
Member
thank you,
wonder how big the disc vs the download part. I'd be happy if it's at least half.
Dick Justice
Banned
They're just as dumb too. But I wasn't talking about them, was I?
nortonff
Hi, I'm nortonff. I spend my life going into threads to say that I don't care about the topic of the thread. It's a really good use of my time.
bethesda stated all mods should be free, didn't they?
Spazznid
Member
It's in the Eula. Mods must be free. Required.
Not again this shit that Bethesda never put out a graphically good -even great- looking game...
Both Oblivion and Skyrim were wonderful games to look at, hence why you wont find such criticism in their respective threads...
People need to stop with these lame excuses.
ISee
Member
No way. Game is around 30gb (a bit less I think, but...).
Even a dual layer DVD has a capacity of only around 8,5gb, but my guess would be 4,7gb of data on a single layer DVD. I'll not even bother to insert the disc and just unlock the game on steam and then start to download.
Yeah, I always find it strange when people say that. Oblivion was the first "next gen" game I played from that generation, and I was blown away by it. It looked incredible to me back then.
exmachina64
Banned
I always thought Oblivion was ugly on consoles. Too much bloom and low-res textures.
WetTreeLeaf
Neo Member
Well when you were a little boy like me whose last played game was Dynasty Warriors 5 on PS2 and then you played Oblivion for the first time, it blew my mind.
AndyMoogle
Member
The game had some serious framerate issues and the extremely low res textures in the distance were really bad. They had to downscale the graphics a lot compared to the initial videos.
Though, since this is the PC thread and not another thread I thought I was in, then yeah, it looked pretty good on PC, but it still had some issues for sure. It definitely required some mods to look good.
TheLegendOfMart
Banned
I'm not making excuses. I'm just not holding Bethesda up on such a high pedestal, just shows how pathetic you are when you belittle people who don't really care about the graphics as "hipsters".
Look at Fallout 3, then look at Fallout 4. If the graphics are significantly improved enough then shut up whining.
https://www.vg247.com/2015/11/04/fallout-4-vs-fallout-3-comparison-shots-show-how-far-weve-come/
Projectjustice
Banned
It looks about 10000x better than NV.
You clearly have no idea how ENB works
Just to set you straight, no, it won't. FO3 ENB is DX9. FO4 is DX11. These are not cross compatible.
ENB has to be hand-crafted on a per-game basis, and the only DX11 game Borris has ever done is GTA5. He gave up after putting in anti-aliasing. I suspect DX11 is a lot more complicated for him to code for. If he didn't want to do it for a game as huge as GTA5... I have to wonder how much incentive he'll have for Fallout 4. I'm just hoping a lot since it's a Bethesda title which are notorious for being mod-magnets.
It will be easier though than GTA. AFAIK, ENB intercepts drawcalls to DX9 and can inject its own code in between (hence the better lighing etc. as it has access to everything, not just the final framebuffer and occasional depthbuffer). As he already has experience with building an ENB for the DX9 version of gamebryo, it could very well be making one for the DX11 version isn't a big step like the one from scratch for GTA. But it will take some time, as with all mods. That's the funny part really of the "but mods will fix it!" remark: when you're done with the game, the mods which are worth using will appear, so if you buy it at launch, you likely have to play through the game without many mods.
Let's hope at least the console commands still work like TM, TFC and the like to create screenshots
Alcoholikaust
Member
when I played this on PS4 I literally said this aloud-spooky
You got some nerve to be calling me out for belittling, when in your original post you did the same using "hissy" and "whiners" and now you opt to go ahead and call me "pathetic" and to "shut up".
Very good. Such class.
Spiritwalker
Member
10000x better? doesn't even look 2x better lol
Projectjustice
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80s Bad Guy
Banned
Looks at least 3.5x better. I've seen 'shops before.
I'm going to be playing this on medium settings with no mods and I'm going to be happy for months. /shrug
Do you remember what NV looks like?
Heres a quick reminder.
It isn't worth arguing with them, they don't care about proof.
Projectjustice
Banned
Also me saying 10000x isnt literally. Its a huge jump for the series though.
VicDaMoan03
Member
I say it looks 3.154x better
Lol, I just finished New Vegas on PC a few hours ago. New Vegas looks like shit compared to 4.
Yeah, now THAT is a game I struggled to get into because of graphics.
Fallout 4 isnt beautiful but thats why I have a PC. Skyrim with mods is still one of the best looking games around.
Solid Samus
Banned
Yes. This should be the OT. I mean, there's literally nothing else to talk about with this game, because it's just a graphical showcase FPS, and it'll set a great tone for discussion
now this one I like
SliChillax
Member
Chill I'm just making fun of people who say it looks like Fallout 3.
Solid Samus
Banned
People around here aren't ever 'dismissive' when a game has a poor visual showing. They harp on it, day in, day out, like that's the premier metric that games should be judged by, the main element of a game that should be considered before a purchase, if the game is backed by a name more than five people in that thread can recognize. Because that's how AAA works, I guess? If you're a successful game developer, that means you'd better learn to melt my eyes off, 'cuz that's pretty much the only thing I care about! And there's the reason why I'm not joining in this chorus of applause for your post - I never said that people shouldn't judge games based on their visuals, but some of the people in these threads seem to believe that it's wholly appropriate to judge the entire quality of a game, and the level of work its creators put in, solely based on the visual fidelity of the game. And as for someone who's willing to look beyond a game's visuals and emphasize the enjoyable experience they'll have with the game, someone who urges others to do the same?
Or in other words, the typical attitude expressed toward almost every single one of the hundreds or thousands of games released every single year that don't have that nebulous AAA label tacked on? The type of attitude commonly found in userbases of platforms whose upcoming lineup usually isn't propped up almost entirely by games that sell themselves on their technological wonder first and foremost?
Well those people, they're just hipsters. They're off base for not allowing their disappointment with the visuals to color their perception of the quality of every single 'part' that contributes to the 'sum', the game.
Yeah, I don't like that. Maybe it's because I only recently started gaming on PC almost exclusively, but in the last year or so I've been exposed to dozens of games I never thought I'd enjoy, that rely on so much more than their visuals to bring a quality experience. And while graphics are always 'part' of the equation, you'd think going by the discussion in here that they're the only part of a game that even merits any level of serious analysis or discussion. We get a dozen or two dozen posts when a new mechanic is touched upon in a leak or in impressions. Graphics? Hundreds of pages.
Anyone can think whatever they want about the graphics. I just get caught up in the hyperbole, personally. Half of the people I've responded to up to this point were the ones whom I believed couldn't make an objective comparison or analysis if their lives depended on it (and don't get me wrong, I've gone overboard a few times myself in my own flawed comparisons), because according to those people, these graphics aren't just 'underwhelming', or 'disappointing', or 'shitty' - they're PS3/360 level, when they're not. They're indicative of a lazy, cheap, budget developer with a lazy, cheap, budget dev process, when they're not. They're indicative of a 'piss poor', 'awful', 'terrible' game, when they're not. And of course, they're the only element of the game that merits discussion, or the only element of the game that ought to factor into your decision to support it, when they're not.
texhnolyze
Banned
Yeah, I guess it's around that number.
This, this is the perfect calculation.
Krappadizzle
Member
You are reading way too much into that.
You know what, I was thoroughly underwhelmed when I first saw the game, but seeing it looking so crisp and smooth really benefits that art style, in kind of a huge way actually.
The game is "pleasant" to look at like this. But unfortunately it's also a thing where you can just feel it looking bad on anything less than ultra, which worries me. Because I had the stance of "If the game looks this dated, it should run basically maxed out and at 60 on current gen consoles" Which in the age of aliasing, would be sort of a godsend for consoles.
Either way, I'll be playing it on PC so it'll be nice enough regardless.
The game is "pleasant" to look at like this. But unfortunately it's also a thing where you can just feel it looking bad on anything less than ultra, which worries me. Because I had the stance of "If the game looks this dated, it should run basically maxed out and at 60 on current gen consoles" Which in the age of aliasing, would be sort of a godsend for consoles.
Either way, I'll be playing it on PC so it'll be nice enough regardless.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
eye cum negotiator
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v0mitg0d
Member
I know some are really interested, so thought I would mention...the second the embargo lifts I'm putting up a 1080P/60 Ultra setting video on my channel.
https://www.youtube.com/user/warcrow
https://www.youtube.com/user/warcrow
gaming memes
What are your specs
Agreed... when you first left the cave and saw those textureless mountains in the distance I was like... yo....
Dictator93
Member
Only radial blur: Laughing and crying at the same time.Digital Foundry said:
What the hell?! Ok, i need to get deep into .ini it seems.
The Janitor
Member
Posted in the PC performance thread (not my screenshot)
Holy crap, hasn't anyone noticed that PC screen lacks paralax occlusion mapping or whatever is used in the PS4 version.Errr, the diner part looks pretty much the same.
Maybe LOD and shadows are much better.
Bricks have zero depth on PC, the sheetmetal with the stripe lacks the intendation stripes, look at the pipe next to the logo, hell, look at the logo itself.
I hope this isn't gonna be a new Arkham with graphic effects on PC broken.
Dictator93
Member
I assume you are being sarcastic, but the game does not use POM for environemental textures, at all... for any version.
A
A More Normal Bird
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, that's just the camera angle/lighting catching the normals differently.
The_Architect
Member
This is sarcasm right?
Ah, okay, seeing it.