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Fallout - Season 2 trailer
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March Climber
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Worry not, they have improved him this season.I'm probably gonna watch season 2 when a non-maximus cut is out
Probably due to feedback or something, but he is more around 60% more serious this season. They have him going through an "almost-brooding" phase, but maybe they are just trying to point out how he is just jaded about all the wasteland stuff.
GymWolf
Member
It was probably the worst character i ever seen in a serial tv...ever?
I don't see any reality where i would enjoy watching another minute of this guy.
Thank anyway for the attempt
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March Climber
Member
You'd have to explain what you didn't like so that I can explain what they fixed and didn't fix.
Esquie
Member
You know all it took was that 2 min montage of her backstory for me to go from indifferent about her character to kinda invested. They did a nice job with that.
GymWolf
Member
Dees his acting\character still feel like he is heavy on the spectrum half of the times (and not in a good way)?
Does he still think he is a hero\good guy even if he is kinda of a piece of shit?
I just hated every scene he was in pretty much.
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March Climber
Member
This has been reduced by about 60%.
He starts out season 2, now a knight, but also a false hero who has taken down Moldaver. Only he knows that he never did. This along with him looking for purpose is what makes him more jaded this season.
They even explain a bit further how his character had arrested development and why he was seeking validation and knighthood, however that's not his character's focus this season.
The goal he was clinging onto all last season, he finally reached, but he did it in all the wrong ways and even now that he's there it's not all that he thought it was going to be.
He wants to be, but he keeps finding himself in complicated situations this season and he is taking it more seriously. Thus he is more upset about his dream being more of an asterisk, thus the added jadedness.
I think the issue is that they casted an actor who simply looks older than he is. If he genuinely looked like some young-looking actor to play an early 18, 19, or early 20s kid who is wanting to be a hero to an ideology that he bought into, but has barely any life experience nor wasteland experience, the character would come across more obviously to audiences.
Instead in season 1 you had a dude who looks just about 30 years old acting like a 13 year old.
Regardless, there have been less complaints about him this season because they massively turned down the dial on his childlike demeanor and jokes. They even gave him his own good plotline to follow along with, and kudos to them for doing this all in a way that makes sense.
GymWolf
Member
Thanks for the explanation buddy
March Climber
Member
Another solid season. Still did not expect this quality show from Fallout of all I.P.'s, but I'm definitely all for it.
It's a real shame that Halo TV couldn't get this level treatment. I kind of want Microsoft to try greenlighting a British "Fable" TV show, with the whimsical narrator and all...maybe give it to Britbox, HBO, or BBC or something.
It's a real shame that Halo TV couldn't get this level treatment. I kind of want Microsoft to try greenlighting a British "Fable" TV show, with the whimsical narrator and all...maybe give it to Britbox, HBO, or BBC or something.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Loved this season slightly less than 1.
I feel like the only person who actually loves the multiple story-lines per episode thing and the jumping around. It's a terrible show to watch while trying to multi-task though.
I feel like the only person who actually loves the multiple story-lines per episode thing and the jumping around. It's a terrible show to watch while trying to multi-task though.
March Climber
Member
I enjoy it too but I also liked Game of Thrones for the same reason.
And yeah this is definitely not a 'second screen experience' type of show, which is one of the reasons I enjoy it because they do a lot of visual storytelling too.
John Marston
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What a fun watch.
It rewards the fans of the game yet can also be enjoyed by those who know nothing about it.
I'm tempted to rewatch by starting season 1 again
It rewards the fans of the game yet can also be enjoyed by those who know nothing about it.
I'm tempted to rewatch by starting season 1 again
Werewolf Jones
Gold Member
It was pretty bad tbh.
Lucy's brothers narrative was completely fucking pointless and Vegas was not handled well at all. Justin Theroux was amazing as Robert House and that's it.
Lucy's brothers narrative was completely fucking pointless and Vegas was not handled well at all. Justin Theroux was amazing as Robert House and that's it.
Bark
Banned
Dude i love her.
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kpopSuperstar
Member
I like the season overall but not the finale, way too many plot points are left for season 3, and too many stories ending up being pointless.
I also find the actor playing Maximus to be a bad actor and looking bored 24/7, and the actress playing Lucy has major bug eyes and a botox mouth.
I also find the actor playing Maximus to be a bad actor and looking bored 24/7, and the actress playing Lucy has major bug eyes and a botox mouth.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Damn, looks like the season kicked ass.
I've held back on watching it weekly so I can binge it. Will do that either over this or the next weekend.
Laptop1991
Member
I enjoyed season 2 more than 1, it's still not the games and i like some bits and not others but i did like how in the end it's basically back to the start of New Vegas, House and NCR on the strip and in freeside with the Legion attacking, nearer than the dam but still the same principle,
i like the Enclave being more powerful as well, i always thought they were beaten too easy in the games personally, but the Brotherhood is still all over the place, now they have the plans of Liberty Prime magically from nowhere in the Mojave lol as well as the Prydwyn etc, and still act like raiders and fiends for me,
I look forward to season 3.
i like the Enclave being more powerful as well, i always thought they were beaten too easy in the games personally, but the Brotherhood is still all over the place, now they have the plans of Liberty Prime magically from nowhere in the Mojave lol as well as the Prydwyn etc, and still act like raiders and fiends for me,
I look forward to season 3.
March Climber
Member
Please spoiler your post for those here who have waited to binge it.
Laptop1991
Member
There are videos all over Youtube instantly breaking the show down from Oxhorn and a lot of others and have been every week, it's not a secret.
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March Climber
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I tried
Laptop1991
Member
You didI tried
ContrarianAsshole
Member
I just realized all these grimdark thematics are putting me off the universes of the shows and games that have them. So I'm at episode 4 and it's pretty much all but a done deal that the NCR is virtually gone after shady sands was wiped. I get that there's legitimate reasons to push the reset button on a setting like that in grimdark to keep it grimdark and not have things improve indefinitely, but on the other hand it just kind of makes the whole thing boring. When I watch this kind of show I can't help but root for the communities of people in the show, not just for the individual characters, and if it's a given that the setting isn't going to have any 'character' growth for lack of a better phrase, then it's hard for me to be invested in it.
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YCoCg
Member
...keep watching.
I liked the season but wow does it revel in the flashbacks! The story structure is messy and their love of Gogins out of ghoul makeup is killing the pacing because he is lazer focused on finding his kid but is also a 200 year old bounty hunter who never seemed to give a shit before.
Still, the final payoff confrontations are good.
Still, the final payoff confrontations are good.
LyricalShrike
Member
Did anybody else find the finale abrupt? The season felt like it ended mid arc and rushed a conclusion.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Also odd that in season one we saw him with his daughter at a birthday party when the bombs went off while his wife was away (presumably in a bunker), and now season two is saying his wife and daughter were together.
I thought they'd try explain that retcon but nope.
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bitbydeath
Gold Member
Wasn't a great as season one overall.
Twisted Metal reigns supreme in the games > TV/Movie category.
Twisted Metal reigns supreme in the games > TV/Movie category.
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I'm a few weeks behind on the show, but still enjoying it for the most part. I love when you actually see purposeful callbacks/references to the games, and the show has done better than almost any other adaptation in sticking with the lore and worldbuilding of the games. There are only a small handful of characters that I like, that's probably the worst part. I almost kinda wish it was just a series of short stories instead of the big overarching plot that we got.
Paltheos
Member
Watched season 2 with a few friends over the weekend. We unanimously agreed that it sucks. Big disappointment since we all liked season 1.
The short of it is too many characters are too stupid, the show has way too may plotlines that don't go anywhere (until for the next season~), and groups (esp. the Brotherhood of Steel) are comically out of character. There's a lot of 'characters saving other characters at just the right time' and an attribute in composition that I've noticed recently - cutting in the middle of conversations to different locations because if the camera stuck on what was going on then and there the audience would have enough time to piece together/realize how stupid and/or boring a scene really is.
Brotherhood of Steel is really the worst though. Shit like leaving the diode completely unguarded is monumental level of dumb, and the emissary from the central Brotherhood faction being a gung-ho, kill crazy instead of an adherent is both a divergence and dumb on its own (I mean, all the brothers are kinda like that in the show but you'd think the main group would be closer to the ideal of what the Brotherhood should be).
Mr. House was written by stupid people to appear smart imo. Sanctimonious and creative enough to build some super model to predict the exact moment of the end, but also not smart enough to understand how his own model factors in one man somehow.
Ofc Cooper's wife left a note that she was going to Colorado but didn't think to leave any other details whatsoever. And God the vault plotlines were fucking nothingburgers. How was the show playing dramatic music as Steph was gaslighting glasses-dude using the most basic-ass gaslighting conceivable?
Sorry, stuff is kinda spilling out of my brain as I think about the show. I'll stop now. I looked up rottentomatoes while we were watching and could not believe both critics and audiences gave this crap a 96%+ score.
The short of it is too many characters are too stupid, the show has way too may plotlines that don't go anywhere (until for the next season~), and groups (esp. the Brotherhood of Steel) are comically out of character. There's a lot of 'characters saving other characters at just the right time' and an attribute in composition that I've noticed recently - cutting in the middle of conversations to different locations because if the camera stuck on what was going on then and there the audience would have enough time to piece together/realize how stupid and/or boring a scene really is.
Brotherhood of Steel is really the worst though. Shit like leaving the diode completely unguarded is monumental level of dumb, and the emissary from the central Brotherhood faction being a gung-ho, kill crazy instead of an adherent is both a divergence and dumb on its own (I mean, all the brothers are kinda like that in the show but you'd think the main group would be closer to the ideal of what the Brotherhood should be).
Mr. House was written by stupid people to appear smart imo. Sanctimonious and creative enough to build some super model to predict the exact moment of the end, but also not smart enough to understand how his own model factors in one man somehow.
Ofc Cooper's wife left a note that she was going to Colorado but didn't think to leave any other details whatsoever. And God the vault plotlines were fucking nothingburgers. How was the show playing dramatic music as Steph was gaslighting glasses-dude using the most basic-ass gaslighting conceivable?
Sorry, stuff is kinda spilling out of my brain as I think about the show. I'll stop now. I looked up rottentomatoes while we were watching and could not believe both critics and audiences gave this crap a 96%+ score.
The_hunter
Member
I felt this show was cooked when the actor for Mr. House said he watched youtube videos, to understand what type of character Mr. House is
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bitbydeath
Gold Member
Brotherhood is bad but the vault dwellers are completely uninteresting. Anytime they come on screen my interest in the show drops significantly.
Ella and Walton are the only interesting parts.
Ella's other show Sweetpea is a lot better than Fallout. Hopefully we get a season two of that soon.
MidGenRefresh
Banned
It's low IQ entertainment. Beyond stupid.
StueyDuck
Member
Finally caught up with season 2, glad to see my biggest issue with season 1 was addressed, the juvenile stuff... im glad they take the material more serious, you can have serious and comedy work together and season 2 marries it much better than season 1
However, the "arc" or plotline for season 2 is a bit all over the place.
They tried really hard to link NV and the show and while it works there is also alot of restrictions where as you can see in season 1 they were unleashed and could do anything.
Im hoping season 3 will be a smash hit, since theyll be moving away from trying to align with a game
Overall solid season, better than the first in many ways, but season 1 had a spark that season 2 was missing and it mostly comes down to it being in NV
However, the "arc" or plotline for season 2 is a bit all over the place.
They tried really hard to link NV and the show and while it works there is also alot of restrictions where as you can see in season 1 they were unleashed and could do anything.
Im hoping season 3 will be a smash hit, since theyll be moving away from trying to align with a game
Overall solid season, better than the first in many ways, but season 1 had a spark that season 2 was missing and it mostly comes down to it being in NV
ContrarianAsshole
Member
Paasei
Member
They can just play it safe and go to either the Commonwealth or Capital Wasteland. Have players of the games take till the final episode to figure out which ending is actually canon.
I liked season 2 overall, great fan service, but it took too long before it actually got anywhere story wise.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
The Ghoul is going to Colorado,
But it feels like Lucy and Maximus will end up in the Commonwealth.
They really need to stop making shows where the cast are all in their own storylines and never interact with each other.
I bet there are entire seasons of shows where 1 group films about a weeks worth of content that is then dribbled out over the season in little 5 minute clips. Ridiculous.
Obviously some things, like adaptations of books or possibly historically based stuff, would require this, but for pure fantasy shows it really should be discouraged.