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[olimario]

http://insider.ign.com/articles/535/535862p2.html

BEST GAME
1. Monster Hunter (PS2): 246 points
2. Dragon Quest V (PS2): 149 points
3. Grand Theft Auto Vice City (PS2): 111 points
4. Pikmin 2 (GCN): 92 points
5. San Nen B Gumi Kinpachi Sensei (PS2): 82 points
6. Gyakuten Saiban 3 (GBA): 78 points
7. Katamari Damashii (PS2): 53 points
8. Zelda no Densetsu: Yottsu no Tsurugi + (GCN): 41 points
9. Derby Stallion 04 (PS2): 34 points
10. World Soccer Winning Eleven 7 International (PS2): 27 points

BEST BALANCE
1. Dragon Quest V (PS2): 104 points
2. Monster Hunter (PS2): 99 points
3. Grand Theft Auto Vice City (PS2): 87 points
4. Pikmin 2 (GCN): 79 points
5. Katamari Damashii (PS2): 70 points
6. Zelda no Densetsu: Yottsu no Tsurugi + (GCN): 66 points
7. Gyakuten Saiban 3 (GBA): 61 points
8. World Soccer Winning Eleven 7 International (PS2): 56 points
9. Pocket Monsters Fire Red & Leaf Green (GBA): 45 points
10. Super Robot Taisen MX (PS2): 40 points

BEST IDEA
1. Katamari Damashii (PS2): 245 points
2. EyeToy: Play (PS2): 200 points
3. Monster Hunter (PS2): 139 points
4. San Nen B Gumi Kinpachi Sensei (PS2): 106 points
5. Zelda no Densetsu Yottsu no Tsurugi + (GCN): 93 points
6. Grand Theft Auto Vice City (PS2): 53 points
7. Koufun Sousakan (PS2): 42 points
8. Gun Slinger Girl Vol. 1 (PS2): 33 points
9. Soccer Life! (PS2): 28 points
10. Gyakuten Saiban 3 (GBA): 26 points

BEST STORY
1. Dragon Quest V (PS2): 335 points
2. San Nen B Gumi Kinpachi Sensei (PS2): 194 points
3. Gyakuten Saiban 3 (GBA): 57 points
4. Sakurazaka Shouboutai (PS2): 57 points
5. Grand Theft Auto Vice City (PS2): 53 points
6. 007 Everything Or Nothing (PS2): 37 points
7. Xenosaga Episode 2 (PS2): 35 points
8. Pikmin 2 (GCN): 30 points
9. Koufu Sousakan (PS2): 28 points
10. Zelda no Densetsu Yottsu no Tsurugi + (GCN): 25 points

BEST SOUND
1. Grand Theft Auto Vice City (PS2): 170 points
2. Dragon Quest V (PS2): 147 points
3. Monster Hunter (PS2): 98 points
4. Katamari Damashii (PS2): 89 points
5. Pikmin 2 (GCN): 82 points
6. San Nen B Gumi Kinpachi Sensei (PS2): 57 points
7. Zelda no Densetsu: Yottsu no Tsurugi + (GCN): 40 points
8. Cyberia 2 ~ The Will to Fabrication ~ (DC): 38 points
9. Star Ocean 3 Till the End of Time (PS2): 32 points
10. 007 Everything or Nothing (PS2): 31 points

BEST GRAPHICS
1. Monster Hunter (PS2): 138 points
2. Onimusha 3 (PS2): 135 points
3. Pikmin 2 (GCN): 92 points
4. Dragon Quest V (PS2): 81 points
5. Silent Hill 4: The Room (PS2): 71 points
6. Final Fantasy X-2: International + Last Mission (PS2): 66 points
7. Sengoku Musou (PS2): 58 points
8. Ninja Gaiden (Xbox): 51 points
9. Xenosaga Episode II (PS2): 50 points
10. San Nen B Gumi Kinpachi Sensei (PS2): 41 points

I dont know how Monster Hunter scored above Pikmin 2 for best idea. Its just another MMO. :\

 

[Chopin Trusty Balls]

"BEST GRAPHICS
1. Monster Hunter (PS2): 138 points
2. Onimusha 3 (PS2): 135 points
3. Pikmin 2 (GCN): 92 points
4. Dragon Quest V (PS2): 81 points
5. Silent Hill 4: The Room (PS2): 71 points
6. Final Fantasy X-2: International + Last Mission (PS2): 66 points
7. Sengoku Musou (PS2): 58 points
8. Ninja Gaiden (Xbox): 51 points
9. Xenosaga Episode II (PS2): 50 points
10. San Nen B Gumi Kinpachi Sensei (PS2): 41 points"

Dragon Quest V over Ninja Gaiden?

Fanboyism at its finest.

Btw can you play Dragon Quest V without Japanease skills?

 

[Koshiro]

Is this enough to convince GAF that the Japanese game buying public is just as stupid as the American/UK buying public? Is it? Please?

 

[golem]

interesting categories...

 

[belgurdo]

DQ V and Monster Hunter taking top awards over much more worthy stuff makes Bel cry

Take the goggles OFF, Japan

 

[Wario64]

lol, this is gonna be interesting. Ninja Gaiden (best graphics) deserves better...if only they actually played the game

 

[Agent Dormer]

Katamari at 7?! 7?! TOO LOW!

 

[bogg]

Famitsu? more like fagitsu LOLOL
Nice to see vice city up there.

 

[TheGreenGiant]

maybe... they value gameplay over gfx and that makes swayed their judgement.

really surprised that GTAVC scored as highly and in as many categories as it did.

Did the awards start with some sort of pollcard that limited choices?

 

[Prine]

Go GTA VC!

 

[AniHawk]

10. Zelda no Densetsu Yottsu no Tsurugi + (GCN): 25 points

That's Four Swords +?

Best story?

 

[Bluemercury]

Ken Kutaragi: that new device you made is really good, now we can really control all these fools.....
R&D: yeah we should have used this before, our eletronics division will surely go up now that we can really control pple.....

 

[WarPig]

What the mother fuck is that B-Gumi game? Or is that just Anoop being deliberately obtuse?

Japan is such a country full of shitheads. If it weren't for spicy sesame ramen at that joint in Shinjuku, the finger to the lot of the motherfuckers.

EDIT: Aika Miura porn also justifies Japan's existance.

DFS.

 

[WarPig]

really surprised that GTAVC scored as highly and in as many categories as it did.

That's presumably Capcom advertising bucks speaking.

DFS.

 

[Gruco]

Man, this thread wanna play DQ5 and Pikmin 2 even more!

 

[CrimsonSkies]

"maybe... they value gameplay over gfx "

LoL.

"BEST GRAPHICS" Category.

 

[DCharlie]

screw all of you who don't worship Monster Hunter

"I dont know how Monster Hunter scored above Pikmin 2 for best idea. Its just another MMO. :\"

MMORPG? it isn't.

""BEST GRAPHICS" Category."

yeah, some interesting games in that one!

 

[Auron]

Dragon Quest V is the best game on the PS2. Don't knock it unless you've tried it.

 

[MetatronM]

BEST IDEA
1. Katamari Damashii (PS2): 245 points

Hells yeah.

Everything else is merely indicative primarily of Japanese buying habits and predispositions and not really valid responses to the category at hand. It's not really surprising.

Ninja Gaiden came in so low on Best Graphics because it's an Xbox game. Therefore, nobody played it and nobody gives a damn.

 

[MetatronM]

Japan is such a country full of shitheads. If it weren't for spicy sesame ramen at that joint in Shinjuku, the finger to the lot of the motherfuckers.

Actually it seems like other parts of Japan are really nice, but Tokyo needs to just be levelled and started over again. Badly.

 

[Drexon]

Jeebus chringle. All of those PS2 games over Aaaaall of those (potential) Xbox games?? Way to distort the reality in japan, famitsu!

Edit: Ignorant bastards, that's the only Xbox game in the freaking list, surely Xbox deserves more credit than that. *Even more upset*

 

[sprsk]

the reactions in this thread make me lol.

 

[ferricide]

What the mother fuck is that B-Gumi game? Or is that just Anoop being deliberately obtuse?

a little of both. it would be better to translate it (why write "san" out when it just means "3"?) "year 3, class b, mr. kinpachi" would be a workable translation. it's based on a really popular manga and (live action) TV drama, i do believe. it's by chun soft, and it's a sound novel.

what this list proves is that only the hardcore types vote on this shit in famitsu, as i expected.

monster hunter as best game?

 

[Hitman]

What's Monster Hunter? Somebody fill me in.

 

[Drek]

No one plays Xbox in Japan, therefore it makes perfect sense that the games don't get voted very highly.

SAT prep! Xbox is to Japan as water is to cats.

 

[Shompola]

Is this a list compiled by the famitsu staff or the readers?

 

[SolidSnakex]

Like I said in the other thread on this topic, graphics range outside of just technical qualities too, which is a reason NG probably didn't make the list. They should've just threw in a technical category to please those NG fans.

 

[DCharlie]

"monster hunter as best game?"

without a doubt , true so far this year. Seriously.
And it gets added kudos for being something that's not a followup/remake.

 

[Mike Works]

BEST GRAPHICS
3. Pikmin 2 (GCN): 92 points
8. Ninja Gaiden (Xbox): 51 points

 

[xsarien]

Mike beat me to it.

 

[ZombieSupaStar]

dude its japan...... they like play with cell phones more than games now.....dude.....

 

[ferricide]

"monster hunter as best game?"

without a doubt , true so far this year. Seriously.
And it gets added kudos for being something that's not a followup/remake.

i'm not arguing with it -- haven't played it -- but more pointing out that a hardcore-focused online game that's sold, what, 250k? ends up getting the spot. thus proving that this is just voted on by, well, the japanese equivalent of the GAF. =)

 

[Alcibiades]

8/30/04 can't come soon enough...

If Ninja Gaiden could do 500,000 easily in the States, then Pikmin 2 can surpass that no doubt...

and to think Pikmin is one of Itagaki's favorite games...

 

[kaching]

Is this a list compiled by the famitsu staff or the readers?

famitsu editors:

...For this week's Famitsu Awards feature, the magazine took a more editorial approach, allowing its group of 65 editors (51 male, 14 female) to vote on their favorite games from the first half of the year.

Voting worked as follows. Each editor was given 20 points which they could distribute to as many as five titles. Titles eligible for voting include the 351 games released between 1/1/2004 and 6/30/2004.

 

[ferricide]

famitsu editors:

DAI SHOKKU

 

[Alcibiades]

famitsu editors:

oh, I thought it was readers...

still cool though, and it might take away the perception that this is just "Japanese sheep" voting...

 

[TTP]

"monster hunter as best game?"

without a doubt , true so far this year. Seriously.
And it gets added kudos for being something that's not a followup/remake.

Damn you Capcom. Damn you Europe. Damn you DCharlie

 

[MetatronM]

oh, I thought it was readers...

still cool though, and it might take away the perception that this is just "Japanese sheep" voting...

Yeah, but it is still about right (as far as the "Japanese sheep" business goes). It's a fairly accurate representation of the current state of the gaming scene in Japan.

 

[kaching]

still cool though, and it might take away the perception that this is just "Japanese sheep" voting...

Won't change the perception that there were some premature "sheep" reactions in this thread though

 

[madara]

Like we any better here in USA. Its another Madden, FPS or GTA. Two of which main attraction is lowest common denominator.

 

[Kiriku]

"monster hunter as best game?"

without a doubt , true so far this year. Seriously.
And it gets added kudos for being something that's not a followup/remake.

And it's from Capcom, no less.

 

[djtiesto]

The original DQ5 is one of my favorite games ever, though it doesn't have better graphics than Ninja Gaiden It's still such an amazing game and really holds up today. The new one looks awesome, come on Square bring it over here!

Shame to see that Vice City did so well, that game was rubbish. And for best sound... If I have to listen to any more 80's music I'll shoot myself

 

[evilromero]

This is just as bad as Tony Hawk or John Madden winning GOTY.

 

[bobbyconover]

BEST SOUND
1. Grand Theft Auto Vice City (PS2): 170 points
4. Katamari Damashii (PS2): 89 points

A bunch of licensed tracks over one of the most brilliant, original and eclectic soundtracks of all time. No!

 

[Gattsu25]

I dont know how Monster Hunter scored above Pikmin 2 for best idea. Its just another MMO. :\

First thing that comes to mind is the '2' behind the word Pikmin...then your overgeneralization of Monster Hunter (pikmin is just another RTS...see? it can go both ways but seldom works...plus...you were wrong about calling MH a MMO anyway)

 

[tenchir]

A good explanation for those rankings is that more people own games like Monser Hunter than people who owns...... let say Ninja Gaiden in Japan, and therefore Monster Hunter would have gotten more votes?

PS2 Userbase >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GC Userbase>>>>>>>>XB Userbase
PS2 votes>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GC votes>>>>>>>>>>XB Votes

 

[Gattsu25]

A good explanation for those rankings is that more people own games like Monser Hunter than people who owns...... let say Ninja Gaiden in Japan, and therefor Monster Hunter would have gotten more votes?

PS2 Userbase >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GC Userbase>>>>>>>>XB Userbase
PS2 votes>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GC votes>>>>>>>>>>XB Votes

That instantly falls apart when you consider that the game buyers aren't voting.

 

[tenchir]

That instantly falls apart when you consider that the game buyers aren't voting.

How did they score it though? I don't have an Insider account.

 

[Gattsu25]

How did they score it though? I don't have an Insider account.

Read this thread, particulary Kaching's posts.

 

[Pimpbaa]

Shame to see that Vice City did so well, that game was rubbish.

Sorry, you're wrong. It's one of the best games this gen, the fact that it's doing so well in Japan proves that.