Famitsu info on Atlus new fantasy RPG Project Re Fantasy (Studio Zero, Hashino)
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purseowner
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This will be a Switch game.
DrROBschiz
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Im ok with this
Switch gonna be the new Vita for Japanese games
Im pretty hyped about it.
Im sure PS4 will continue to bring all the high end stuff
Hmmm catching up on the JP reporting of the Famitsu interview news. It sounds like Atlus is structuring quite a bit. Soejima is now part of a newly established "Atlus Artwork Team" where he will continue to work on Persona as well as tackle new challenges. It sounds like Atlus wants to aggressively expand their output to not just continue to deliver new entries in successful franchises like Persona, but also to make brand new games. This mentality seems to be a result of them joining a huge group company like Sega Sammy and wanting to work together with Sega to contribute to the success of the group.
The message I get from the interview is that Atlus knows they have strong fan capital and that they have the potential to do even more than they already have, so they're challenging their own limits. Hopefully it works out in the end!
The message I get from the interview is that Atlus knows they have strong fan capital and that they have the potential to do even more than they already have, so they're challenging their own limits. Hopefully it works out in the end!
cj_iwakura
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Those floors won't clean themselves. (If he does NOTHING ELSE, let it be Raidou 3.)
Don't say that before it happens. Especially considering this seems pretty high end with the restructuring for a brand new team.
The assumption that devs are all coding for an unreleased platform that generally speaking is not guaranteed success is pretty baseless IMO.
Most handheld devs on japan will stay on 3DS and vita for a couple more years.
Eolz
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Won't lie, it makes me fear a bit for their future productions. Could easily fall into the trap of making their games too similar, be it in terms of art, tropes and/or gameplay.
Of course won't happen for the games that are pretty different, but Persona, SMT (look at apocalypse) and this RPG could end up being more about different settings than other stuff like it was in the past.
I don't think this is a Switch game but you are saying that as if developers don't work on systems before they are released which is obviously bollocks.
There's always big projects in development for systems this early.
DrROBschiz
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Its mostly likely multiplat?
PC, PS4, Switch?
Ps4 at the very least seems like a lock
PC, PS4, Switch?
Ps4 at the very least seems like a lock
The Praiseworthy
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Yes I can easily see this being released in 2019/2020.
Excited for the full reveal.. please be a PS4 title.
I'm not saying devs don't code for unreleased platforms or that this will not at some point be a Switch game along with PS4 and maybe PC.
I'm pushing back against the notion that Atlus's current plans are based specifically on this game being a Switch dedicated project or excluive. They are not so foolhardy to base their expectations on an unreleased product in that manner.
They didn't even account for P5 on PS4 until PS4 was already released, and by the time P5 was released, it sold by far the most on that platform.
Hmmm... mmmm... erm.....
Nevermind.
You sound like you want to say something? Go ahead
If they're going to start recruiting staff this week, I wouldn't be surprised.
In my opinion, Atlus has always considered the PS4 very carefully during the development of Persona 5.
Let's just hope that all their games come to PS4 and switch going forward. I would like to play smt games on PS4
wild wild rice
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Very excited for my grandchildren to enjoy this epic new fantasy RPG on their Microtendo Switchstation 9s in 2052.
Even though they said that the PS4 version was just based on the PS3 version they had already been working on?
I mean, the game was in development in some capacity since right after Catherine, i dunno if they could have PS4 in mind considering such a huge delay from their original time table of 2014 either. I mean PS4 porting and dev time had to play a significant portion of that as well.
OmegaSmash
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I read tarot cards. Oh boy.
Its Persona in fantasy land
SolidSnakex
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At the very least this game should be a safe bet for the PS4 given that Hashino mentioned that it's being built for fans of console games. P5 shows that there's a rather large userbase of their fans on the platform, so it's safe for them.
Having Atlus's games on dual platforms in PS4 and Switch(or triple if they ever bother to go to PC) should also hold down the fort in regards to userbase both in Japan and western markets.
Which is going to be extremely critical when 3DS and vita die down, considering i dont expect Sony to be making a new handheld anytime soon, and development costs are going to sky rocket for those who never entered console development specifically because of the issues and costs associated with HD development.
Those guys are not going to have any other choice but to bank on HD development, or go to mobile.
Which is going to be extremely critical when 3DS and vita die down, considering i dont expect Sony to be making a new handheld anytime soon, and development costs are going to sky rocket for those who never entered console development specifically because of the issues and costs associated with HD development.
Those guys are not going to have any other choice but to bank on HD development, or go to mobile.
Sure. Keep in mind that we are talking about a Japanese developer that generally makes lower end console games and mid to higher end portable games. Assuming there was no PS3 version, do you really expect Persona 5 from the same team as a PS4 exclusive, to really look that different?
Not really, but mostly because they would have just used the PS3 assets they would have had to have been using prior to canning it on the PS4 version regardless
I don't really know what they might have or might have not done differently with a PS4 only version. Perhaps not so many loading screens and more open areas perhaps? The 512MB ram surely kept them disciplined on confined spaces they could more easily plan around. I actually don't think everything would have been the same with a 'built from the ground up' PS4 version however.
I always thought the plan would be to release on PS3 first and then port to PS4 a year later but then they noticed PS3 software sales go down dramatically outside Japan and got a nudge from Sony to push for a simultaneous release
I actually think Sony are crazy enough to come out with another handheld in the next year or two
I actually think Sony are crazy enough to come out with another handheld in the next year or two
cj_iwakura
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I wouldn't get my hopes too high for Switch as anything but an afterthought given Nintendo's third party history.
Looking at Trails of Cold Steel 3, that looks like a very decent upgrade going from a Vita base upgraded to PS3, to PS4 only. And that's basically a title that shows its budget and scale limits.
I disagree with Duckroll on Atlus being a 'lower tier console dev'. In Japan, they are pretty much right now the second biggest JRPG development house outside of SE, which is really sad considering SE are basically at a level where they can generally compete with western AAA studios at their peak.
Compared to something like Falcom who are actually low tier console devs(trails and ys8 are their first console titles in a long time) Atlus are mid to high tier IMO.
All it proves is that the difference between actual high tier and midhigh range in japan is practically as wide as the ocean. And the low tiers are basically vita devs who port their games to console, just as wide a chasm from low to mid tier.
I disagree with Duckroll on Atlus being a 'lower tier console dev'. In Japan, they are pretty much right now the second biggest JRPG development house outside of SE, which is really sad considering SE are basically at a level where they can generally compete with western AAA studios at their peak.
Compared to something like Falcom who are actually low tier console devs(trails and ys8 are their first console titles in a long time) Atlus are mid to high tier IMO.
All it proves is that the difference between actual high tier and midhigh range in japan is practically as wide as the ocean. And the low tiers are basically vita devs who port their games to console, just as wide a chasm from low to mid tier.
hosannainexcelsis
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In terms of production values of console games globally, Atlus is definitely low tier.
Globally, yes. No argument there, but in Japan, they have way more production values than many other devs.
I know i'm missing some devs like Monolith Soft, which have pretty good standards recently, and CC2, which are also very high up there, and Platinum, but on the whole...
To be fair, they managed to get Tokyo Mirage sessions with their partnerships, which i've heard is actually a great game.
I would hope someone ports that to switch so i can finally play it.
Sho_Nuff82
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I don't see the point of announcing a game without announcing a platform. This industry...
KimonoNoNo
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How's Atlus repetition for treating their staff?
Any juicy rumours going round like NIS?
Any juicy rumours going round like NIS?
Juicy rumors about NIS?
purseowner
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What are the NIS rumours? :/
Japanese devs can be weird about that sometimes.
Take Dynasty Warriors 9, which was just announced this weekend. It was a Koei Tecmo / PlayStation live stream and SIE Japan Asia president Atsushi Morita introduced the announcement, yet they didn't announce a platform when it's clearly PS4.
Take Project Awakening from Cygames, which was announced in August as a "high-end console game" from Cygames Osaka, which was a studio established specifically to make a PS4 game, yet they didn't announce a platform when it's clearly PS4.
Take the new God Eater project that was announced worldwide without a platform, which will most definitely come to PS4 and probably PC in the west, but people aren't sure it'll be on PS Vita.
Take Chaos;Child: Love Chu Chu, which was was announced in September only to be confirmed for PS4 and PS Vita in November.
The list goes on. It doesn't make much sense a lot of the time and is kind of annoying. In this case, I guess you can say it's understandable for them not to be confirming anything given how early in development the title likely is, but at the same time, I feel like if they're targeting a home console release, they'll obviously be on PlayStation 4 and I don't see the harm in them stating that. The only question is if it'll also be on Switch.
I don't know what you are talking about. Atlus has developed a grand total of 3 console games in the entire PS3/WiiU generation - Catherine, #FE, and Persona 5. That's all. Everything else they developed has been for portable. That is a low-tier console developer. Consoles have not been a priority for Atlus since... 2008? This is why as their strategy changes now, they have to actually recruit aggressively and expand. They are not a developer even built to produce multiple console games at the same time at the moment.
SMT V and new MegaTen spinoff game set in the future
Or with samurai in old time Japan
The Last Wizard
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Why talk about this so damn early. I hate how most stuff is announced too early.
This makes me so excited!
I love that they realize their own potential, and the merger with Sega actually ended up reinvigorating their expansionistic aims.
Clearly shows that there is still energy there in the japanese industry, especially in the JRPG field, hope other devs will follow, even with smaller budgets.
Nightengale
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More concept art is out there now.
Spear wielding blonde shota is the MC, I guess?
Spear wielding blonde shota is the MC, I guess?
Kenzodielocke
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I was wondering, why does Atlus have exclusives? I mean, I don't know how P4G would run on the 3DS, but the SMT games would run on Vita for sure?
Excuse me if Nintendo published games like Persona Q or the SMT games on 3DS. Anyway... you could ask the same question for MH, really.
Excuse me if Nintendo published games like Persona Q or the SMT games on 3DS. Anyway... you could ask the same question for MH, really.
I am not measuring their quality by how many games they have made on certain platforms, but the production value and investment they put into each game. For console titles, there is a far amount of difference between something like a Falcom game ported to PS4 like Ys 8, will be, and a PS3 to PS4 game like P5.
I only see her in two. And it's just her hair that changes.
The blonde kid definitely looks like protag material.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
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This game is 2-3 years away at the minimum. Who knows what the platform landscape is going to be like then? Switch could be a massive success or it could bomb, there could be a PS4 successor out, PC might gain popularity in Japan, mobile could have taken over everything even more than it already has, etc. There's no point in limiting your options. Pretty much the only safe thing to assume is that it's not going to be for 3DS, Vita, or Wii U.
KimonoNoNo
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A little while back there was a mass exodus of staff.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=688013
From there was a post by Duckroll that alluded to unsubstantiated rumors of management fuckery.
BRSxIgnition
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