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Famitsu reviews (Mar 4 issue)
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Monk said:
First it's monthly, so there's much more time for the reviewers to actually PLAY the games. Also there's a larger group of reviewers at Dorimaga and they clearly do not even suggest that the same people play all the games, as I said different reviewers do different games and each game has a different number of people reviewing it. The actual text is also more in-depth and gives you much more info on the game. Have you ever read a Dorimaga review?
Oogami said:
People buy magazines for coverage and scoops. Not for reviews. Seriously now, think about what you just said. :lol
I like the reviews in Dengeki Playstation. I think they hit a lot closer to the truth and the text is usually pretty good. Though I don't think they finish games either since they are a weekly mag.
Anyhow I do think Famitsu does score things around the marks they should be but not exactly on the mark. In other words I think when discussing Famitsu scores we should call:
0-27 = bad game with flaws
28-32 = debatable
33-40 = good game
If you stuck with that almost every review score from them makes sense (although yea, you have to realize their marks come from the first 3-5 hours of play only).
Anyhow I do think Famitsu does score things around the marks they should be but not exactly on the mark. In other words I think when discussing Famitsu scores we should call:
0-27 = bad game with flaws
28-32 = debatable
33-40 = good game
If you stuck with that almost every review score from them makes sense (although yea, you have to realize their marks come from the first 3-5 hours of play only).
Oogami said:
Are you unable to understand English? We've been saying over and over, it's not just about the score. It's about how Famitsu is a weekly blurb+score system which makes any score completely questionable.
I ask again, have you ever READ a Dorimaga review? If not I suggest you stop making yourself look like a fool.
Oogami said:
Ok, then I'll make it clear. I said I really liked reading Dorimaga reviews because of the depth. They have more varied opinions and the people talk in detail about the game so readers can decide if they want a game based on the content of the text. The score is simply how the reviewers themselves felt about the game. I feel that any review which lies in the score alone and 3 sentences from each reviewer is pretty worthless. Is that clear enough yet?
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
Oogami said:
God you're stupid. If you said:
"So do you agree with the scores from Dorimaga?"
then you'd have been right, he wouldn't have answered the question. But you didn't, you said:
"So you saying you agree with the scores from Dorimaga?"
and he answered it be clarifiing what he said. Which had nothing to do with whether he agreed with the scores or not.
sasimirobot said:
You lose some money you gain some soul. Winnah! Can't believe people still bother to slam Famitsu. I guess only cause they can't believe Meteos did so well.
Sho Nuff, I've never read any post of yours that doesn't read like a facetious remark. They're all the same caustic biting humour aren't they. Can never tell if you're ever serious
Ok, so in the games you've played and remember the scores from Dorimaga? Do you always agree with their scores?
Oh and you haven't played any of them? I'll tell you their scores just from the example I made, they are nonsense and just as bad as Famitsu's.
That's the point I'm making: Famitsu shouldn't be the target of bashing because other mags/sites are equally as bad. Some of you think you're the elites just because you're bashing a reputable mag.
Oh and you haven't played any of them? I'll tell you their scores just from the example I made, they are nonsense and just as bad as Famitsu's.
That's the point I'm making: Famitsu shouldn't be the target of bashing because other mags/sites are equally as bad. Some of you think you're the elites just because you're bashing a reputable mag.
Oogami said:
Goddamnit, you joke character. Do you really not read any posts? I told you why I would rather read Dorimaga than Famitsu reviews and why Dorimaga holds more water. Obviously to someone like you who can neither read Japanese nor buy the mags you would think that scores are everything and they are all "rubbish" which is partially true. For me it's all about the content, and in the CONTENT Famitsu falls short. Get that through your thick skull. Ok?
Oogami said:
Actually I think the 4 scores you posted are pretty good for the market the games are released in.
SS4 - Good game, tons of people love it especially in Japan. Scores seem justified
Way of the Samurai 2 - Good scores, despite some flaws in the game a lot of people really enjoyed it.
Billy Hatcher - Not sure what the 9 guy was thinking, but an 8/7 is pretty fair for ST's best attempt at re-creating Sonic in 3d.
Mark of Kri - Western games do not tend to score well in Japan because *gasp* sometimes Japanese players don't like things they do. Not a surprising score.
Not that I'm saying these scores are much better than Famitsu though. Like duckroll said it's more that the reviews explain why they gave the scores in Dorimaga.
duckwhatever - What I got through is that you are a elitist bastard and have seriously bad tempers. You kept saying I can't read Japanese and English and never read any mag without knowing anything about me. :lol
Well but of course you're the know it all so you can judge people in their 2nd post. Nice talking to you.
Well but of course you're the know it all so you can judge people in their 2nd post. Nice talking to you.
Bebpo said:
Gotcha. It's always better to talk to nicer people(enjoy reading your suikoden4 review).
Anyway well I guess I misunderstood in the first place and that it's the content not the SCORE. Ah silly me. English isn't my first language so I shouldn't say too much. My bad. But I agree with Famitsu scores more that's all I want to say.
Oogami said:
So you misunderstood what I was talking about and then you tried to argue with me, only to be proven wrong and then you call me an elitist bastard? I'm not understanding this, unless it's somehow my fault that you jumped on other people without fully understanding what they were saying and then failed to defend yourself. English not being your first language aside, if you don't fully understand, clarify first.
duckbastard - Dude I was just being nice and said "I guess I misunderstood" and try to have us both an easy way out. But of course you don't want that and want to derail the thread even further and of course trying to prove you're the l33t. I fully understand what you're saying and a lot of them are rubbish.
Umm where exactly was I wrong? Explain.
Again where did I jumped on anyone? You're the one who jumped on me and kept namecalling me and starting with the insults.
Umm where exactly was I wrong? Explain.
Again where did I jumped on anyone? You're the one who jumped on me and kept namecalling me and starting with the insults.
JackFrost2012
Banned
Bebpo said:
This is the magazine that gave 9s and 10s to Operator's Side and Dekavoice. They go batshit insane for those alternative-input systems.
Sgt. Killjoy
Member
3 pages late to the party, but holy crap. I'm kidna excited for pac pix now, and i always wanted Meteos. This is pretty amazing.
Well, for sales of lower tier quirky/puzzle games...DarthWufei said:
Hitofude DS~ 100k
Kimishine DS~95k
Mojipittan PSP~ 75k
Tendo Dokuta DS~ 70k
Puyo Fever DS~ 70k
Mahjong Fight Club PSP~ 60k
Mr Driller DS~ 55k
Lumines PSP~ 40k
Zoo Keeper DS~ 40k
Puyo Fever PSP~ 25k
Kollon PSP~ 20k
...I'm expecting Meteos to move between 40-60k probably. Maybe a little more with all the attention it's getting, but Lumines didn't do as well as I expected so I'm not sure Meteos will be able to reach super high numbers (comparatively).
Tim the Wiz
Banned
Meteos is looking good. After actually playing this and Lumines, I was quite surprised how overrated the latter was. No offense, it was good, quite good, but I just didn't feel the magic, I didn't get 'in the zone' like you do when you play that special puzzle game.
When you play a puzzle game you play it for an hour, and after that hour, even if the design is great or poor, you either keep playing or you put it down and let it retain a (lets face it: permanant) place in the back of your gaming collection.
That's how you know whether you like a puzzle game or not. I find it difficult to put Meteos down. I found it hard to sustain enough to play Lumines in more than short bursts.
Yoshi and Another Code, both of which I never suspected I would want to get last year, are now looking to be killer DS titles as well.
Hopefully this good run of late will turn into momentum for Nintendo.
When you play a puzzle game you play it for an hour, and after that hour, even if the design is great or poor, you either keep playing or you put it down and let it retain a (lets face it: permanant) place in the back of your gaming collection.
That's how you know whether you like a puzzle game or not. I find it difficult to put Meteos down. I found it hard to sustain enough to play Lumines in more than short bursts.
Yoshi and Another Code, both of which I never suspected I would want to get last year, are now looking to be killer DS titles as well.
Hopefully this good run of late will turn into momentum for Nintendo.
turok4n64 said:
Meteos's producer is lumines's director. The Director of Meteos is an ex-Nintendo employee believe it or not. I think he created Kirby so if thats true no-one should of doubted the potential of Meteos being a great and unique puzzle game. But even I didn't expect something like that.
Belfast said:
Its not doing too well on gamerankings....
http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages4/919760.asp
Its only at 76%.
It may be great but its the third best Capcom game out right now behind RE4 and DMC3 so that might explain it.
radioheadrule83
Banned
I believe I missed these scores.
My DS is happy.
My DS is happy.
Shaheed79 said:
I think that's a bit wrong. Pretty sure that Iwata (the current president of Nintendo) is the guy that created Kirby, and that the Director of Meteos is the director of the famous Super Smash Bros series.
Edit: and somebody buy Pac Pix please! I really want to hear impressions on that game now.
Spiritreaver
Member
Yeah, this is exactly what I was thinking in regards to sales, and why I was really hoping that some would see the light and change that, but I doubt that would happen. However, seeing the NDS downloadable demo service topic, I had an idea. Hifotude is the only other game being demoed, Meteos could get a lot of people's attention if they happen to download the demo of it and enjoy it, possibly enough to warrant sales.jarrod said:
I doubt it'll have much of an effect, but it's encouraging to think about. We'll have to see how it does.
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
Cruel Bastard Mario said:
Nah, he created both. Interesting Kirby facts:
- Originally Kirby was just a placeholder to allow them to make the game before coming up with a character. They liked Kirby, it stuck.
- Miyamoto wanted Kirby to be yellow (the first Kirby game was on the Gameboy, no one knew what colour he was meant to be), Sakurai insisted on pink.
- Probably named after John Kirby, a lawyer who represented Nintendo in a major lawsuit against Atari way back. Though as there are Kirby vacuum cleaners, which is of course very similar to Kirby's abilities, I'm not sure which one's true.