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[TehGoomba7s]

Dont let @DenchDeckard see this. He'll have a heart attack.

78k sheep defending a console that's not worth it in his eyes

 

[Hookshot]

Truly a console for the 1%

 

[lachesis]

Great start for PS5 - but the 100k yen (literally) question will be all about the momentum whether they can keep selling good amount week after week.

 

[jm89]

I'm actually shocked by this one

Even nostradamus has his off days

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Great start for PS5 - but the 100k yen (literally) question will be all about the momentum whether they can keep selling good amount week after week.

Less a question of the week to week sales and more of a question of whether specific games drive adoption.

Monster Hunter Wilds comes out in February for example and based on impressions from the beta, I wouldn't be surprised if this drives Pro adoption.

If MHW is a hit on the Pro, expect more people to buy the Pro. Sony really needs for it to be Pro Enhanced on launch and a significant upgrade, i.e. a competent patch.

Then you have Ghost of Yotei which likely lands in Q2 or Q4 and will almost certainly be a visual showcase on the PS5 Pro.

Dragon Quest 12 if it releases next year probably won't push the PS5 Pro, but it might be a reason why a lot of people decide to pick up a console and it might as well be the Pro for many of them.

PS5 Pro will likely have a smaller ratio of units sold than PS4 Pro in Japan simply because of how late into the generation it has come and how expensive it is. You look at how many units the PS5 needs to match the PS4 and there isn't a ton of room left.

 

[onQ123]

You should ask yourself why you're shocked.

Just didn't think it would have much appeal to that market.

 

[King Dazzar]

78k sheep defending a console that's not worth it in his eyes

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

I imagine a lot of the people who get the Pro week 1 are people upgrading, so wouldn't be any big software boost for older titles.

This is what happened with the PS4 launch in 2016.

That makes sense. But even so, the software thing was something I thought would be separate from Pro. As in, I though software sales were finally starting to normalize to something healthier on the physical charts.

Guess that isn't the case and what peaks we're seeing are still exceptions to the rule. Digital would make up some difference, but not a ton, on average. Not factoring in the F2P titles like Genshin of course. Maybe there are some PS4/PS5 titles in the Top 30, I'll have to check...

Less a question of the week to week sales and more of a question of whether specific games drive adoption.

Monster Hunter Wilds comes out in February for example and based on impressions from the beta, I wouldn't be surprised if this drives Pro adoption.

If MHW is a hit on the Pro, expect more people to buy the Pro. Sony really needs for it to be Pro Enhanced on launch and a significant upgrade, i.e. a competent patch.

Then you have Ghost of Yotei which likely lands in Q2 or Q4 and will almost certainly be a visual showcase on the PS5 Pro.

Dragon Quest 12 if it releases next year probably won't push the PS5 Pro, but it might be a reason why a lot of people decide to pick up a console and it might as well be the Pro for many of them.

PS5 Pro will likely have a smaller ratio of units sold than PS4 Pro in Japan simply because of how late into the generation it has come and how expensive it is. You look at how many units the PS5 needs to match the PS4 and there isn't a ton of room left.

Genuinely think you're overestimating Pro's long-term sales outlook in Japan. Yes it had a launch slightly better than PS4 Pro but that's offset by PS5 sales overall trending back to PS4 levels and still big chance of dipping sub-PS4 in a few weeks.

The games you're saying could catapult Pro sales, I would think have a better chance pushing non-Pro PS5 sales instead, especially if SIE look into sales promotions around the time of their release.

As those would likely be limited to the base PS5 models, not the Pro.

 

[GigaBowser]

PS5 pro sales harv given me hope

 

[nordique]

Impressive launch numbers - especially given the price - but let’s see what the legs are like

 

[Woopah]

I remember a lot people saying the same the past year… At this point i don’t think any game is going to “save” the PS5 in Japan + The Switch 2 it’s going to be the new thing and almost every third party supporting it. Even selling almost 90K consoles this week didn’t improve the software side, maybe the scalpers did their job over there. Next week numbers are going to help to have a better idea of the real situation. And if they drop below 20K for the PlayStation 5 family, it’s not going to look good.

It doesn't need "saving" as such.

It had poor full game software sales, and more titles with mass appeal in Japan.

it's getting one of those next week, and several big games next year.

Dang, Switch a beast even in Pro launch week. And in software too! Did they buy no games or is it old devout owners upgrading or something? Why didn't they do some bundles to sell stuff like Astro Bot or whatever's a big thing on the platform?

Sony has been very keen to protect the profit margins of PS5 in Japan. Bundles would undo that.

That makes sense. But even so, the software thing was something I thought would be separate from Pro. As in, I though software sales were finally starting to normalize to something healthier on the physical charts.

Guess that isn't the case and what peaks we're seeing are still exceptions to the rule. Digital would make up some difference, but not a ton, on average. Not factoring in the F2P titles like Genshin of course. Maybe there are some PS4/PS5 titles in the Top 30, I'll have to check...

There's definitely been an improvement in PS5 software sales this year. But the improvement is likely to come in 2025.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Genuinely think you're overestimating Pro's long-term sales outlook in Japan. Yes it had a launch slightly better than PS4 Pro but that's offset by PS5 sales overall trending back to PS4 levels and still big chance of dipping sub-PS4 in a few weeks.

Genuinely? As opposed to when you're just trolling?

You've given no analysis as to why it would do worse than the PS4 Pro after having a stronger launch than the PS4 Pro. Other than "it could happen" and thus you think it is a "big chance".

The games you're saying could catapult Pro sales, I would think have a better chance pushing non-Pro PS5 sales instead, especially if SIE look into sales promotions around the time of their release.

As those would likely be limited to the base PS5 models, not the Pro.

Of course these games will boost the PS5 as well, they go hand in hand, but there are going to be player who want to play these games at their best.

Wukong is a perfect example had it been available and enhanced on PS5 Pro for its launch. It doesn't play very well on PS5. This favors PS5 Pro. Games where there isn't much of a difference favors base PS5. It's pretty simple logic.

 

[Bloody Crow of Cainhurst]

The goalpost has moved from "the PS5 Pro will be DEAD ON ARRIVAL at 120k Yen" to "I genuinely don't know if it's gonna sustain this momentum several months from now" smh

 

[nial]

Never in the world I expected it to outsell PS4 Pro at launch week.

I doubt that's a factor with this price it has. The exports of PS5 outside Japan seem to have ended after the latest price rise.

I don't even know why people keep bringing that out. Is there even any solid evidence of such thing *these days*?

 

[sachos]

Wait wtf, way better than i expected

 

[terrible1fi]

Why are people still buying new ps4s?

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Why are people still buying new ps4s?

250 USD is pretty cheap and if you already have a PS4 library and your PS4 breaks, it can be an easier pill from a small sample of people to buy, especially if it's for a kid.

The PS5 Digital is literally twice the price.

 

[Unknown?]

Truly a console for the 1% of China.

Ftfy, that coveted 1%!

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Famitsu Sales: 11/4/24 - 11/10/24 has been updated with software sales rankings 11 to 30.

Software Sales (followed by lifetime sales)

1. [NSW] Mario & Luigi: Brothership (Nintendo, 11/07/24) – 63,441 (New)
2. [NSW] Super Mario Party Jamboree (Nintendo, 10/17/24) – 43,347 (409,831)
3. [NSW] Romancing SaGa 2: Revenge of the Seven (Square Enix, 10/24/24) – 6,729 (91,742)
4. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo, 04/28/17) – 6,245 (6,050,284)
5. [NSW] Battle Spirits CrossOver (FuRyu, 11/07/24) – 5,355 (New)
6. [NSW] Minecraft (Microsoft, 06/21/18) – 5,230 (3,671,568)
7. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons (Nintendo, 03/20/20) – 5,015 (7,948,548)
8. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom (Nintendo, 09/26/24) – 4,907 (299,278)
9. [PS5] Slitterhead (Bokeh Game Studio, 11/08/24) – 4,697 (New)
10. [NSW] Nintendo Switch Sports (Nintendo, 04/29/22) – 4,472 (1,457,553)
11. [PS5] Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 (Activision, 10/25/24) – 4,337 (39,904)
12. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (Nintendo, 12/07/18) – 4,031 (5,612,978)
13. [PS5] Professional Baseball Spirits 2024-2025 (Konami, 10/17/24) – 3,962 (88,951)
14. [PS5] Romancing SaGa 2: Revenge of the Seven (Square Enix, 10/24/24) – 3,579 (40,833)
15. [PS5] Dead Rising Deluxe Remaster (Capcom, 11/08/24) – 3,129 (New)
16. [NSW] Powerful Pro Baseball 2024-2025 (Konami, 07/18/24) – 2,888 (314,672)
17. [NSW] Pokemon Scarlet / Pokemon Violet (The Pokemon Company, 11/18/22) – 2,861 (5,434,981)
18. [NSW] Luigi’s Mansion 3 (Nintendo, 10/31/19) – 2,657 (1,046,956)
19. [NSW] River City Saga: Three Kingdoms Next (Arc System Works, 11/07/24) – 2,464 (New)
20. [PS4] Romancing SaGa 2: Revenge of the Seven (Square Enix, 10/24/24) – 2,097 (17,320)
21. [PS5] Dragon Ball: Sparking! ZERO (Bandai Namco, 10/11/24) – 1,752 (86,891)
22. [NSW] Super Mario Bros. Wonder (Nintendo, 10/20/23) – 1,738 (1,941,968)
23. [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey (Nintendo, 10/27/17) – 1,696 (2,519,362)
24. [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu World: Chikyuu wa Kibou de Mawatteru! (Konami, 11/16/23) – 1,643 (1,152,717)
25. [NSW] Splatoon 3 (Nintendo, 09/09/22) – 1,589 (4,378,725)
26. [NSW] Pikmin 4 (Nintendo, 07/21/23) – 1,551 (1,255,730)
27. [PS4] Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 (Activision, 10/25/24) – 1,548 (9,947)
28. [PS5] Metaphor: ReFantazio (ATLUS, 10/11/24) – 1,546 (105,102)
29. [NSW] Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics (Nintendo, 06/05/20) – 1,545 (1,341,820)
30. [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa, Heisei, Reiwa mo Teiban! (Konami, 11/19/20) – 1,530 (3,037,812)

Famitsu Sales: 11/4/24 – 11/10/24 [Update]

Famitsu has published its estimated physical game software data for Japan for the week of November 4, 2024 to November 10, 2024.

www.gematsu.com

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Famitsu Sales: 11/4/24 - 11/10/24 has been updated with software sales rankings 11 to 30.

Software Sales (followed by lifetime sales)

1. [NSW] Mario & Luigi: Brothership (Nintendo, 11/07/24) – 63,441 (New)
2. [NSW] Super Mario Party Jamboree (Nintendo, 10/17/24) – 43,347 (409,831)
3. [NSW] Romancing SaGa 2: Revenge of the Seven (Square Enix, 10/24/24) – 6,729 (91,742)
4. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo, 04/28/17) – 6,245 (6,050,284)
5. [NSW] Battle Spirits CrossOver (FuRyu, 11/07/24) – 5,355 (New)
6. [NSW] Minecraft (Microsoft, 06/21/18) – 5,230 (3,671,568)
7. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons (Nintendo, 03/20/20) – 5,015 (7,948,548)
8. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom (Nintendo, 09/26/24) – 4,907 (299,278)
9. [PS5] Slitterhead (Bokeh Game Studio, 11/08/24) – 4,697 (New)
10. [NSW] Nintendo Switch Sports (Nintendo, 04/29/22) – 4,472 (1,457,553)
11. [PS5] Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 (Activision, 10/25/24) – 4,337 (39,904)
12. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (Nintendo, 12/07/18) – 4,031 (5,612,978)
13. [PS5] Professional Baseball Spirits 2024-2025 (Konami, 10/17/24) – 3,962 (88,951)
14. [PS5] Romancing SaGa 2: Revenge of the Seven (Square Enix, 10/24/24) – 3,579 (40,833)
15. [PS5] Dead Rising Deluxe Remaster (Capcom, 11/08/24) – 3,129 (New)
16. [NSW] Powerful Pro Baseball 2024-2025 (Konami, 07/18/24) – 2,888 (314,672)
17. [NSW] Pokemon Scarlet / Pokemon Violet (The Pokemon Company, 11/18/22) – 2,861 (5,434,981)
18. [NSW] Luigi’s Mansion 3 (Nintendo, 10/31/19) – 2,657 (1,046,956)
19. [NSW] River City Saga: Three Kingdoms Next (Arc System Works, 11/07/24) – 2,464 (New)
20. [PS4] Romancing SaGa 2: Revenge of the Seven (Square Enix, 10/24/24) – 2,097 (17,320)
21. [PS5] Dragon Ball: Sparking! ZERO (Bandai Namco, 10/11/24) – 1,752 (86,891)
22. [NSW] Super Mario Bros. Wonder (Nintendo, 10/20/23) – 1,738 (1,941,968)
23. [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey (Nintendo, 10/27/17) – 1,696 (2,519,362)
24. [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu World: Chikyuu wa Kibou de Mawatteru! (Konami, 11/16/23) – 1,643 (1,152,717)
25. [NSW] Splatoon 3 (Nintendo, 09/09/22) – 1,589 (4,378,725)
26. [NSW] Pikmin 4 (Nintendo, 07/21/23) – 1,551 (1,255,730)
27. [PS4] Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 (Activision, 10/25/24) – 1,548 (9,947)
28. [PS5] Metaphor: ReFantazio (ATLUS, 10/11/24) – 1,546 (105,102)
29. [NSW] Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics (Nintendo, 06/05/20) – 1,545 (1,341,820)
30. [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa, Heisei, Reiwa mo Teiban! (Konami, 11/19/20) – 1,530 (3,037,812)

Famitsu Sales: 11/4/24 – 11/10/24 [Update]

Famitsu has published its estimated physical game software data for Japan for the week of November 4, 2024 to November 10, 2024.

www.gematsu.com

Physical sales are truly dead

 

[SweetTooth]

PS5Pro sales will drop next week for sure, I will be surprised if it managed less than %60 drop

 

[Warspite]

Why are people still buying new ps4s?

Do they still make PS4s?

And where are they getting the stock from?

 

[tommib]

Record Pro sales are indeed surprising.

 

[Woopah]

Never in the world I expected it to outsell PS4 Pro at launch week.

I don't even know why people keep bringing that out. Is there even any solid evidence of such thing *these days*?

Not that I can see, the lasest price increase seems to have put an end to the reselling for good

Physical sales are truly dead

I wouldn't say that the week before DQIII

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Not that I can see, the lasest price increase seems to have put an end to the reselling for good

I wouldn't say that the week before DQIII

I mean when the #5 barely sells 5k it says a lot.

Japan needs an actual source for physical + digital data cause Famitsu isn't it. It's 2024, not 2004.

 

[Bojanglez]

Seems like they are able to grow the market with a $1000+ console

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Dayum, that's a bigger launch than the PS4 Pro!

Comparison:

• PS4 Pro sales numbers at launch: 65,194
• PS4 Pro launch price: ¥45k
• PS5 Pro sales numbers at launch: 78,086
• PS5 Pro launch price: ¥120k

Crazy

Bodes well for western sales

 

[Fafalada]

To be fair - the PSX sold 100k in its first week on the market too, and that sold significantly les than PS4 Pro over its life in the end.

But I do think PS5 Pro is the more interesting product (and there's clearly an audience for it) so will be interesting to see how it ends up doing longer term.

 

[Woopah]

I mean when the #5 barely sells 5k it says a lot.

Japan needs an actual source for physical + digital data cause Famitsu isn't it. It's 2024, not 2004.

It's definitely lower than 2004 but I wouldn't say it's dead. Nearly half of this week's top 30 have over 1 million in physical sales.

I'd love to get physical and digital, but my fear would be that then we'd just get chart positions and no numbers at all. And I'd rather get just physical numbers than no numbers.