He might be using Dxtory (way better software than Fraps if you ask me) or some other software to grab his screenshots. Not everyone uses Fraps.
Far Cry 3 PC performance thread
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He might be using Dxtory (way better software than Fraps if you ask me) or some other software to grab his screenshots. Not everyone uses Fraps.
Hmm, after some messing around I think I'm going to just go with dx9. I cant get the game to run at 60 in dx 11 on my gtx 480.
Tried NV inspector, far cry 3 and far cry 2 profile. Postfx to false, dx11 multithread to 1, etc. It improves it and for some areas it is a smooth 60, but once I get moving and out into the more dense areas it drops to 30-45.
dx9 I can max everything except disable postfx and its a smooth 60 everywhere.
Tried NV inspector, far cry 3 and far cry 2 profile. Postfx to false, dx11 multithread to 1, etc. It improves it and for some areas it is a smooth 60, but once I get moving and out into the more dense areas it drops to 30-45.
dx9 I can max everything except disable postfx and its a smooth 60 everywhere.
It's always yellow for me unless recording or doing benchmarks, but I haven't updated in a while.
In DX9 it's completely transparent against the background.
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This may not be the reason, could be reading to much into it. You could try launching the non-DX11 application directly to see if it is the problem.
PostFX to false doesn't do anything magical, it just seemingly changes some settings. No reason to use it. dx11 multithreading is broken, don't use it.
Chubzdoomer
Banned
Thank you for that information!
However, the plot thickens: DX9 performs significantly worse than DX11 in several areas. Below are the corrected results. I've removed my last post.
Location 1:
DX9: 42 FPS (Screenshot)
DX11: 42 FPS (Screenshot)
Location 2:
DX9: 41 FPS (Screenshot)
DX11: 49 FPS (Screenshot)
Location 3:
DX9: 47 FPS (Screenshot)
DX11: 52 FPS (Screenshot)
Location 4:
DX9: 48 FPS (Screenshot)
DX11: 55 FPS (Screenshot)
I double-checked and actually ran tests twice with both DX9 and DX11 in the same areas to make sure none of the settings were being changed and that the frame rates I saw weren't just one-time things. I was actually surprised to see just how low they were in DX9 mode -- the second location, especially -- compared to DX11. I wonder what could be causing such a difference in frame rates, especially when most people claim DX9 performs much better than DX11?
Mister0079
Member
Alt-tabbing the game decreases the performance for me for the rest of the time the game is running, around a 10 fps decrease. Weird.
There was someone else saying DX11 performed better earlier in the thread. Could also depend on what settings you have changed in GamerProfile.xml.
Sutton Dagger
Member
Alright the no HUD dll (or hex edit) is seriously the only way to play this game. I looks amazing without all the shit on the screen.
Chubzdoomer
Banned
While continuing to study the differences between DX9 and DX11, I stumbled across something that is just bizarre. When I look straight up at the sky in DX9 mode, my frame rate absolutely tanks. In DX11, however, it skyrockets like in any other game.
DX9: 20 FPS (Screenshot)
DX11: 72 FPS (Screenshot)
Is that strange or what? What on Earth is going on here?
DX9: 20 FPS (Screenshot)
DX11: 72 FPS (Screenshot)
Is that strange or what? What on Earth is going on here?
XANDER CAGE
Member
This exact thing happens to me.
Peterthumpa
Member
This game is like a woman.
Hmm, I'm disappointed by the impact post-fx has one the framerate. I want to use motion blur, but going above medium kills the framerate for me. If I stick with that setting I can turn up most other details and actually hold 60 fps, which is great. As soon as I jump to high or above with post-fx, however, it starts to dip.
Lostconfused
Member
Anything above medium probably turns off depthdownsampling which kills the framerate. You should probably just use a custom xml settings to turn on motion blur.
Cannon Goose
Member
Gotta set the file to read-only for settings to stick.
JRW
Member
I also noticed when you switch between DX9 / DX11, a message warns you to restart for changes to take effect, but you then have to click Apply after this message pops up for it to stick.
The English Conquistador
Member
Gah, sometimes this game looks fantastic. Sometimes, not so much.
John Rabbit
Banned
anyone?
SniperHunter
Banned
I've uninstalled the game for now. I'm really sick of messing around with it trying to get rid of the micro stutter and hitching, and now that it's not on my drive I can't satisfy the temptation to keep doing so. I'll keep an eye on the thread with the hope that a fix (official or otherwise) appears and sorts out this issue.
Hey guys, my friend is having some serious graphical corruption in game. Here's a video that shows somebody with the same issue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1fvgOPSC5zI
And here's a copy paste of his description of the issue.
Anybody knows a solution for that?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1fvgOPSC5zI
And here's a copy paste of his description of the issue.
Anybody knows a solution for that?
someone had that, check a page or two ago
also as I said before DX11 vs DX9 for me run about the same, but the framerate is just a little bit more consistent in dx9 so im sticking to that. The difference in image quality is barely noticeable (hence why it is also running about the same for some of you guys)
there's very little implementation of DX11 features, so it shouldnt be a surprise
also as I said before DX11 vs DX9 for me run about the same, but the framerate is just a little bit more consistent in dx9 so im sticking to that. The difference in image quality is barely noticeable (hence why it is also running about the same for some of you guys)
there's very little implementation of DX11 features, so it shouldnt be a surprise
Cool thanks...checking it out now.
I'm not seeing much of a difference in IQ between the two, but the difference in performance is significant, at least with my rig.
Peterthumpa
Member
This "you have to close uPlay" thing isn't totally true. My game definitely switches from DX9 to DX11 without closing Ubisoft's launcher.
yeah I agree with basically everything I'm reading here. There is very little difference in performance between 9 and 11. I think the real issue with this game for me is the hitching/stuttering, which even adaptive v sync does little for. Otherwise the visual difference between the top graphical settings is also pretty minor, so I don't mind turning down shadows, post fx, and ambient lighting. It still looks great and I need 1080p60.
Sadly it just seems to come back to the stutter, which I don't see much any more with adaptive v sync.
Sadly it just seems to come back to the stutter, which I don't see much any more with adaptive v sync.
Same for me...it gets really bad when you circle strafe around something.
Sutton Dagger
Member
Are you running at 60FPS constantly? Have you tried enabling the MaxFPS="60". I used to have stutter before changing some settings in the config, why don't you copy and paste this over your config settings and give them a try?
If you don't have a 670 or better I would change the Resolution X & Y so you aren't downscaling. You should also download SweetFX for some SMAA goodness.
<GamerProfile>
<SoundProfile MusicEnabled="1" MasterVolume="100" MicEnabled="1" IncomingVoiceEnabled="1" Language="English" />
<RenderProfile MSAALevel="0" AlphaToCoverage="2" SSAOLevel="4" SDSM="0" ResolutionX="2560" ResolutionY="1440" Quality="custom" QualityEditor="editor_ps3" Fullscreen="1" Borderless="0" UseD3D11="0" D3D11MultithreadedRendering="0" WidescreenLetterbox="0" UseWidescreenFOV="1" FOVScaleFactor="1.095" EnableSubResolution="0" SubResolutionX="960" SubResolutionY="540" VSync="1" RefreshRate="60" DisableMip0Loading="0" GPUMaxBufferedFrames="0" ShowFPS="0" MaxFPS="60" Brightness="1" Contrast="1" GammaRamp="1" AllowAsynchShaderLoading="1">
<CustomQuality>
<quality ResolutionX="1280" ResolutionY="720" EnvironmentQuality="high" AntiPortalQuality="default" PortalQuality="medium" PostFxQuality="medium" TextureQuality="high" TextureResolutionQuality="high" WaterQuality="veryhigh" DepthPassQuality="high" VegetationQuality="veryhigh" TerrainQuality="high" GeometryQuality="ultrahigh" AmbientQuality="high" DeferredAmbientQuality="high" ShadowQuality="high" EditorQuality="" Hdr="1" HdrFP32="0" ReflectionHdr="1" EnableVertexBinding="1" id="custom" />
</CustomQuality>
<Post>
<quality GameDepthOfField="0" DepthDownsample="1" CinematicDepthOfField="0" FXAALevel="0" CloudShadows="1" MotionBlur="0" id="medium" />
</Post>
You can't decipher stuttering and slowdowns with AVG or even displayed framerate. You need to look inside the second and run some quick numbers to determine how many milliseconds it takes for each frame to render. 16.1 = 60FPS.
If you have afterburner or fraps, you can log the data and put it into a spreadsheet to have it automatically convert everything.
Got the game today and did some slight tweaking. Added MaxFPS="60" to the .xml file, use DX9 and have everything on the highest except shadows and postfx are on high. Couldn't get SweetFX to work, it kept crashing on start, so I downloaded SMAAinjector which works.
Haven't played much, got to to the open world part and fixed two radio towers. Framerate has been buttery smooth after the tweaks.
8 GB RAM
GTX670
i5 3570k
Haven't played much, got to to the open world part and fixed two radio towers. Framerate has been buttery smooth after the tweaks.
8 GB RAM
GTX670
i5 3570k
Wow thanks for this, I actually got really good performance while the game still looks great. The only things I changes was lowering PostFX to low and turning on 2xMSAA.
It seems to only do it when the game isn't running at 60 FPS...even if it's running at a constant framerate you'll see some noticeable hitching...even if its 57 FPS.
I have a 6950 and get 45 at its lowest 60 fps with it hovering somewhere around 52 FPS most of the time.
I tried the MAX FPS thing in the config but that was before I DL the new AMD drivers so I'll try the settings you have here to see, thanks!
As far as SweetFX, where do I have to put the files? I tired the configurations posted there and got it to work at one point but now they don't seem to let the game run when I try.
SniperHunter
Banned
yea i cant get sweetfx to work either...do you have to disable dx 11?
I have a 680 and performance is all over the place at 1080p in DX9 & DX11 modes. The frame rate drops to about 30 FPS in Amanaki Village. I've set shadows to high and Post FX to medium with no MSAA. I've also disabled DOF and set MaxFPS in the config. It seems like my changes aren't even registering even though the config file is set to read only and I restart the UPlay client. Hopefully a performance patch is put out sometime soon.
Sutton Dagger
Member
Yes, try SweetFX with DX9, and put all the files in the bin folder. If that doesn't work I think someone previously posted a fix, maybe a few pages back?
Sutton Dagger
Member
What CPU do you have, cause after fixing some config stuff you should be getting 60fps, I get constant 60fps with a 670 running at 2560x1440?
That's crazy, I wish I could get that kind of performance at 1080P. I have a 2500k at 4.5GHz. It's wierd jumping back and forth between FC3 and AC3 because Assassin's so much smoother.
No matter how many times I try, DX11 runs better for me by a significant amount.
Maybe it just has to do with me having an AMD graphics card and the game is supposedly AMD optimized, I dunno. *shrugs*
Anyway, I tried those settings with a few tweaks (changed it to DX11 since it runs better that way for me) and used D3DOverrider for the Vsync and it hitches a lot less, but that's because the game hits 60 FPS a lot more with your settings...which is good I guess? Thanks! haha.
It still hitches/stutters anytime it goes sub 60 FPS. MAYBE it doesn't do it as much, but definitely still there. I don't really think it's just a framerate drop.
Maybe it just has to do with me having an AMD graphics card and the game is supposedly AMD optimized, I dunno. *shrugs*
Anyway, I tried those settings with a few tweaks (changed it to DX11 since it runs better that way for me) and used D3DOverrider for the Vsync and it hitches a lot less, but that's because the game hits 60 FPS a lot more with your settings...which is good I guess? Thanks! haha.
It still hitches/stutters anytime it goes sub 60 FPS. MAYBE it doesn't do it as much, but definitely still there. I don't really think it's just a framerate drop.
Chubzdoomer
Banned
therealminime
Member
This games performance is infuriating. Yesterday I was getting 35fps with DX9, Ultra settings, downsampling from 1440p, today I am barely getting 25fps at 1080p. I just don't even know what the fuck is happening any more.
Mind you, may GPU may or may not be dying, I have yet to determine that yet.
Mind you, may GPU may or may not be dying, I have yet to determine that yet.
Sutton Dagger
Member
Well it's not your CPU then
Copy my settings into your config, they are 5 or 6 posts above yours and let me know how you go.