fedex you cant just leave a package OUTSIDE in front of a NYC apartment
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I buy most of my online shit from Amazon and as far as I'm aware there's no option for that. You don't even have a choice in who your carrier is.
cubicle47b
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The getting a signature part of that sentence.
A screen door in an apartment building? Because that's the whole point of this thread.
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I remember when I was 18 and I ordered a Gateway off of the internet and it was just sitting on my porch, big ass cow boxes. Nothing inconspicuous about that. I'll work from home to get something now.
SoRuffShoNuff
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Requiring a signature for release is an extra feature that costs more. If your shipper thought that level of security was required for your package they should have paid for it. It's not fair to try and force each individual driver to make judgement calls on whether or not to leave a package. You wouldn't believe how many complaints we would get about drivers who didn't leave packages on doorsteps.
Every apartment complex I've lived in had the packages held in the office if no one was home. If your building doesn't provide this service then why not talk to them and let them know it's a problem?
Benzychenz
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It's crazy they're allowed to do that.
Here in Australia, if you're not home they just leave it at the post office for you to collect.
Here in Australia, if you're not home they just leave it at the post office for you to collect.
A house on a city street. People could still pick it up and walk away with it
my ongoing problem is that i'm at work when a parcel is being delivered 99% of the time, so i have to drive 30mins to pick it up from the depot during my lunch break (can't have it delivered at work as i'm employed by the government). i used to let them leave it at my door, but i had shit stolen last month so i'm kinda boned.
UK here and it's the same. I don't understand this at all. If I'm not in and they haven't been given instructions by me to leave it in the backyard in a delivery bin I normally set out or left it with the neighbour I have to go to the logistic office. Not once would I expect them to just leave it outside the door.
Amazon are a weird one though. I've never not been in when they have delivered, but they seem like just regular Joe/Jane off the street so I'm assuming they'll just leave it in the backyard and be on their merry way.
cyberheater
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This all day long. It's the only way to go.
In Germany if you're not home the delivery is either
a.) Stuffed in your mailbox (only small packages obv)
b.) Given to your neighbor (he'll sign with DHL and you get a notice)
c.) Taken to a central location where you have to pick it up yourself the next day
d.) Delivery attempted two more times iirc and then returned to the sender if delivery is not possible (don't know if they still do this tho)
Leaving packages on the street is just grossly unprofessional.
In Brazil if you live in a big city the postman go to your home, you sign the paper and you get your package, you have three chances before the package is returned but you can always call the post office to arrange to take it there, if you live in a small city you need to go to the post office because there's no delivery.
When I was in Queens, good luck on getting a package. The delivery drivers would just drive by and mark that no one was home. Even when they left packages in-doors they would vanish.
In Manhattan, not sure about Fedex, but UPS rings every apartment to get in and drop it off. Don't think I've ever seen a package left on the street. Then again, if a package ever was left on the street it wouldn't last long enough for me to see anyway. I once put a broken stationary bike I was throwing out on the curb, walked a block to the store, came back and it was gone.
*Note for people not from the US* OP is about Fedex. The United States Postal Service can get into our buildings and drop it off in lobbies. But FedEx and UPS are companies independent of the government who do whatever they want cause yolo.
In Manhattan, not sure about Fedex, but UPS rings every apartment to get in and drop it off. Don't think I've ever seen a package left on the street. Then again, if a package ever was left on the street it wouldn't last long enough for me to see anyway. I once put a broken stationary bike I was throwing out on the curb, walked a block to the store, came back and it was gone.
*Note for people not from the US* OP is about Fedex. The United States Postal Service can get into our buildings and drop it off in lobbies. But FedEx and UPS are companies independent of the government who do whatever they want cause yolo.
Kill Your Masters
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And even if the neighbours sign it, it doesn't count as delivered. I have a neighbour that took a delivery once but claimed he didn't (he kept it, later found out by a driver he does that regularly and most drivers avoid leaving anything with neighbours in my building). Just rang up Amazon and got a new delivery of my stuff immediately.
SomedayTheFire
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Ireland here, usually stuff we miss is given to a neighbour, left in a post office or they bring it back another day. But, I got a record in the mail and the post man just left it sitting outside my house the other day. I was pretty shocked by that.
Fox Mulder
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Eat the loss. Complaints do nothing.
I've had to do this with the fucking incompetent usps employees here. I've even stopped buying on Amazon and eBay because of the morons.
I would buy a cake and throw a party if the postal service went under and everyone there lost their government jobs.
Same in The Netherlands.
Bubble Metropolis
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In Japan I've had some packages crammed into the mail slot on my door, with half of it still sticking out, and I've had an item or two left outside by the door, but generally speaking they'll leave a piece of paper with a phone number on it if you're not there. You can then call to schedule a redelivery time. If you don't call, they'll continue attempting a direct delivery during their usual daily route, so you can't just pick it up unless you call and explicitly arrange for a pick up.
I wish they'd let my neighbor sign for it, to be honest. I live next door to a friendly, albeit nosey, old man who sits at home all day, cheerfully interrogating anyone who walks by the building. I imagine he already reads the outside of all my mail while I'm at work anyway.
NoctisVsStar
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Yeah, I told my delivery driver the following " you do know where I live?" Ever since then no packages are left outside.
No, they don't. My wife ordered $200 worth of jackets last week and they were left under our door mat on the front steps. A big, puffy bag under a fucking door mat.
Bananajama
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Bless my village I'm in....
We just leave the front door unlocked for our Postie !
We just leave the front door unlocked for our Postie !
Here in Saudi Arabia if you're not at home they'll just keep it at the local courier office until you provide a suitable time for delivery. If the package is not collected within a week it will go back and forth between the main hub and your local branch. Eventually if 2-3 weeks go by without successful delivery it will be returned to sender.
I don't know how you guys accept this be done any other way.
I don't know how you guys accept this be done any other way.
HyperCroutons
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Being a mailman I always try to make sure the package is left at the side of the house or some place secure but when i delivered rough areas and apartment buildings without the keys i make sure the customer is there or i just leave a slip to pick it up at the post office.
Although people get so many packages now that i would get an ear-full from my managers if i brought back too many packages but i at least try to keep the package secure.
Although people get so many packages now that i would get an ear-full from my managers if i brought back too many packages but i at least try to keep the package secure.
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The opposite has been a way bigger problem in my life. In college I had two apartments, neither was in a bad area, never heard of any robberies or packages stolen.
USPS, UPS, FedEx would never leave any packages even if no signature required. They'd ring the doorbell once, slap the notice on the door and run away. Unless you knew the package was coming and you literally just sat and waited for it, no way you'd be able to get it. Even if I took their slip and signed it to leave the package, they never would.
Very glad to live somewhere now where packages will just be left on the porch.
USPS, UPS, FedEx would never leave any packages even if no signature required. They'd ring the doorbell once, slap the notice on the door and run away. Unless you knew the package was coming and you literally just sat and waited for it, no way you'd be able to get it. Even if I took their slip and signed it to leave the package, they never would.
Very glad to live somewhere now where packages will just be left on the porch.
SoRuffShoNuff
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It's actually illegal for anyone other than the USPS to place items in your mailbox. That's why people who get newspapers delivered regularly have a separate box for them.
Benzychenz
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Sounds like you had a shitty/lazy postman.
mingoguaya
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Exactly. Remember, is the shipper that hires us to provide the service that decided to forego the "getting a signature" part of the delivery process in order to make it faster and cheaper for them (and eventually you as the customer). So we as drivers are not obligated to get a signature and we can just leave the package there. Of course, common sense should be used but some drivers obviously lack that.
Mammoth Jones
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My building has a constant problem with the building door not closing so anyone can pull it open.
So I just mail everything to my mother's house a few towns away and go pick it up on the weekend.
So I just mail everything to my mother's house a few towns away and go pick it up on the weekend.
Bitmap Frogs
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Where I live they ask you by phone when you want it delivered.
But I live in a densely populated area.
I used to have this problem when I lived at a certain apartment. It was located right on the main walkway that went from the office through the pool area, so it got heavy foot traffic. We'd order packages, they'd be delivered, and we'd come home and find them gone. Alternatively, the packages would get delivered to the office, who would somehow misplace them and have to hunt them down or close way too early to get the package. It was aggravating and the apartment office people wouldn't help, so I just had everything sent to my workplace and parents' house instead.
Now that I own a home and live in a quiet neighborhood, this isn't a problem anymore, thankfully.
Now that I own a home and live in a quiet neighborhood, this isn't a problem anymore, thankfully.
Hazardous Metal
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I ordered a Razer Blackwidow Chroma recently and watched the Fedex guy through my front door window drop the keyboard from stomach height onto my concrete porch as I was walking up to open the door. I opened the door and yelled "Dude, what the FUCK?" as he was walking away and he booked it to the truck and sped off. I later phoned in to Fedex and was assured that the employee would be reprimanded but I seriously doubt that. The keyboard ended up being fine but it was still a super frustrating experience.
I don't understand how hard it can be to just gently place a package on the ground. All these .gifs and videos of delivery people throwing packages makes my blood boil, sometimes.
I don't understand how hard it can be to just gently place a package on the ground. All these .gifs and videos of delivery people throwing packages makes my blood boil, sometimes.
SoRuffShoNuff
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If you only saw what happens to your packages in transit and at the hub you wouldn't care at all about a waist high drop. If your package can't survive that drop then it had no business being shipped.
I love my local FedEx (Rapid City, South Dakota).
UPS on the other hand, they can go pound sand. They're downright horrible. I've had packages delivered to the wrong address, they've made me drive across town to a store to pickup a package (where there were closer stores)s. I ordered some pens off amazon and they delivered it to my apartment complex office (never bothered to tell me, not even a not on my door) and I didn't find out until the office e-mailed me. It's gotten so bad that the apartment complex has basically told UPS to stop dropping packages off at the office (due to the amount of complaints the office is getting about UPS not delivering packages properly).
I just ordered a 6P off of Amazon and was so glad when I saw it shipped FedEx.
I did that and they still fuck it up.
UPS on the other hand, they can go pound sand. They're downright horrible. I've had packages delivered to the wrong address, they've made me drive across town to a store to pickup a package (where there were closer stores)s. I ordered some pens off amazon and they delivered it to my apartment complex office (never bothered to tell me, not even a not on my door) and I didn't find out until the office e-mailed me. It's gotten so bad that the apartment complex has basically told UPS to stop dropping packages off at the office (due to the amount of complaints the office is getting about UPS not delivering packages properly).
I just ordered a 6P off of Amazon and was so glad when I saw it shipped FedEx.
I did that and they still fuck it up.
Hazardous Metal
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I'd definitely feel better about the whole situation if that's true, but does that really excuse the guy's inability to take an extra second out of his life and simply place it on the ground? There's absolutely no need for that kind of behavior and the Fedex employee that I spoke to on the phone agreed, which is why they said they'd follow up with it.
SoRuffShoNuff
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Former FedEx employee here. I highly doubt anything is gonna happen, especially since it was a waist high drop and nothing was damaged. Depending on the sorting facility it's a waist high drop and a kick just to place the package on the conveyor belt. The only thing that will get you in trouble is throwing a package, and even that depends on the facility as some locations have conveyor belts above head level and you have to toss packages to get them up there.
Your package is more likely to be damaged by something heavy shifting inside the massive shipping containers and landing on your package than it is by being dropped. Those containers are 7 feet high and I've seen some heavy shit come tumbling down after opening the door. It's the reason vets never stand in front of the door when opening the containers.
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