MakotoYuki
Member
Good thing I'm still at chapter 3, and won't advance as long as there are sidequests to do.
FFXV's future updates adjust chapters, add cutscenes, add playable characters, more
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Glass Rebel
Member
You're missing a part before that
Previous Baker: These are gonna be the best cookies ever *adds raisins*
Manager: Hey, you're taking way too long with these cookies, go work on the cake. You there, come over here.
Baker: *looks at cookies with raisins* fuck.
Dark_3nergy
Member
But what if it shipped less then that?
You are missing the trifecta of whining.
People complain when game is delayed
People complain when game is unfinished
People complain when game gets patches
EXACTLY.
was too bored to type it myself so I settled for just saying that the analogy was plain wrong. You described it perfectly.
/applause
BroodShadow
Member
I hope this means on top of Iris and Cor becoming party members we also get
becasue she was a real highlight for me becasue her dialogue was great so I would love to keep her in my party.
Aranea Highwind
This is not common at all though.
If you said d1 id agree.
This.
On paper the story has some great moments, but it fails in executing them, and things lose their impact. Some lines had me going "huh?" even when having seen Kingsglaive/Brotherhood.
For example
There's no reason why they could not shown the inspection scene/umbra from the Dawn trailers in Lestallum. Maybe even give Jared some more screen-time by having him hide the party in the Leville, and doing a sneaking mission out of Lestallum to get to Ramuh.
Either way I really like that they do this, hopefully the changes will be improvements. Secretly hope they do something similar for FFXIII on PS4 too.
Dream_Journey
Member
Well this is why i can wait PC version for years...
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
If only there was some sort of department's feedback that is supposed to catch this stuff half a year back. An office of Goodness Checkers if you will.
I haven't even started the game yet and this is telling me to not bother until next year, huh.
I haven't even started the game yet and this is telling me to not bother until next year, huh.
Pretty much, mistakes were made but at least they aren't sitting on it.
Better than having it stay like that post release.
I agree, it feels even worse than Xenoblade X's at the moment.
Then they'll follow the original plan with short term updates and focus on pushing out DLCs instead?
Imo features like new game+ and cap were already part of the original plan since they were discussed prerelease while the possible avatar system and more playable teammates being the additional one after receiving players feedback
blankempathy
Member
Sounds like stretch goals on a kickstarter. "Well since we made so much money we can now make so and so possible"! So completely backwards.
Its almost like these people that complain about these 3 things are different people. I was fine with FFXV being delayed until it was finished. Funny that the game seems to have released under cooked anyways. Also I'm happy if the game gets fixed it just sucks that it needs to be fixed in the first place.
Yeah.
But it did cement the idea that you should wait at least 6 months before buying a new game.
I stopped preordering games, i stopped buying on d1, but clearly it's not enough time.
Gotta stay on a 6 months offset.
Glass Rebel
Member
It's not "an issue getting fixed".
They left holes in the game so they could get it out for release and now they're filling them after people already paid for the game and maybe even finished it.
okay that got a chuckle out of me
DarkLordMalik
Member
Lol
plasmawave
Banned
No, you will be able to create your own avatar character.
There is no fixing it. That would take an absurdly large amount of time and money. The only thing they can do is akin to add a new coat of paint to a crumbling wall.
I'm ok with it though, better than nothing
No one is complaining it's getting fixed.
People are complaining it was released in such a state in the first place.
It clearly needed more time to bake but they shoved it out anyway. It's not the first game that it's happened to with a similar reaction.
Never implied those are all the same people. Just saying there will be complaints no matter what.
The replay values of FFs are already high. The people who already beat the game are most likely gonna play it again. Why not have added content that addresses certain issues and enhances the story experience?
An incomplete Masterpiece and an incomplete mess are two different things, FF15 is not even close the genius MGSV has.
Edit: and Konami isn't even trying to fix it.
hydrophilic attack
Member
so they made a good game and want to make it better with patches
i don't see the issue
i don't see the issue
What for the people who wanted a good story the first time they're playing the game, like for every other damn game in the whole industry ?
Why is FFXV getting an excuse ?
Cool, hopefully the new scenes will be there by the time I reach that point on NG+, or a low level run. This game's cutscenes are pretty good, there's just not enough of them, so I'll take it.
Don't have an issue with the storytelling so far (granted I'm only on Chapter 3, 28 hours playtime), but seems like it gets worse in the later chapters.
Some of the criticism it gets for not explaining some things, at least early on, is definitely overblown. I've seen "why is there an Oracle, anyway? Why can she commune with the gods?", "no one reacts to the situation of the world or the major events that just took place" and stuff like that, but I completely disagree that it's not mentioned. Even that stupid catching frogs fetch quest is perfectly explained.
Well, at least from Sania's perspective, there's no explanation for the prince to be the one catching them other than "because he's the playable character". Sure, he has an interest in finding out more about the mutations too, I guess, but any hunter could do it.
Except the ones that died to Garulas, these hunters can't do shit.
They're not remaking the whole story, they're just adding a few scenes. The story will still be just as dumb as it's always been.
Don't have an issue with the storytelling so far (granted I'm only on Chapter 3, 28 hours playtime), but seems like it gets worse in the later chapters.
Some of the criticism it gets for not explaining some things, at least early on, is definitely overblown. I've seen "why is there an Oracle, anyway? Why can she commune with the gods?", "no one reacts to the situation of the world or the major events that just took place" and stuff like that, but I completely disagree that it's not mentioned. Even that stupid catching frogs fetch quest is perfectly explained.
Well, at least from Sania's perspective, there's no explanation for the prince to be the one catching them other than "because he's the playable character". Sure, he has an interest in finding out more about the mutations too, I guess, but any hunter could do it.
Except the ones that died to Garulas, these hunters can't do shit.
They're not remaking the whole story, they're just adding a few scenes. The story will still be just as dumb as it's always been.
Glass Rebel
Member
I was gonna ask for some stats that back this up but it doesn't really matter.
Nobody is saying they should not do this. People are complaining that Square-Enix released an unfinished game.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Writer:"Damn, need more time to finish the book"
Publisher:"Who cares, give me what you have and I'll sell it"
Book store employer:"Here's the new book you were waiting for!"
Customer:"Nice! I was waiting for this, 10 years"
*reads book*
Customer:"You know, is not a bad book, but feels likr is missing pages and chunks of it"
Writer:"You are right, here are the missing pages"
Customer:"But...I already read the book, it would have been nice, having the full book when I bought it and experienced it.."
*Writer fan crawls in the ground and approaches furiosly*
Writer fan:"Why are you complaining!! He's giving you the missing pages for free. Why can you feel the passion and the love he put in his work! ArghaRRGhhh!"
Customer:"But past books didn't have missing pages, and certainly most other books didn't"
Writer fan:"But you are getting them, you're so entitled!! Who cares if you already read the book. FEEL THE PASSION OF HIS WORK!! ArrrhhgaRRRGhhhh"
Publisher:"Who cares, give me what you have and I'll sell it"
Book store employer:"Here's the new book you were waiting for!"
Customer:"Nice! I was waiting for this, 10 years"
*reads book*
Customer:"You know, is not a bad book, but feels likr is missing pages and chunks of it"
Writer:"You are right, here are the missing pages"
Customer:"But...I already read the book, it would have been nice, having the full book when I bought it and experienced it.."
*Writer fan crawls in the ground and approaches furiosly*
Writer fan:"Why are you complaining!! He's giving you the missing pages for free. Why can you feel the passion and the love he put in his work! ArghaRRGhhh!"
Customer:"But past books didn't have missing pages, and certainly most other books didn't"
Writer fan:"But you are getting them, you're so entitled!! Who cares if you already read the book. FEEL THE PASSION OF HIS WORK!! ArrrhhgaRRRGhhhh"
Peroroncino
Member
Updates will add what? Cutscenes, story, playable characters?
wtf...
wtf...
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
I think there's more to it honestly. Here we are witnessing the transformation already happening all over of games as services. They re trying to keep players engaged for long on these games hoping they buy more digital stuff etc. And keeping fans happy for longer. Infact if you read it all they re planning to add new hunts and even timed events from time to time. I can't say is bad but I want to experience it first before getting mad or enthusiast. Witcher 3 did also similar stuff but they re taking a bit further forward here with the time events and such. Almost like an mmorpg or moba of sort.
This was inevitable btw.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Masterpiece and MGSV in the same sentence? Lol
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
The best ff from 9. Go grab it and play.