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Some folks don't consider arena fighters as fighters going by the Arms thread
Tekken one I those that takes some time to click
I mean I've "gotten it" for awhile with Tekken 7. I'm still not strong and it's still not easy, but it's not hard at all to get how it works as a fighting game. I'm just glad I've had it for a few months and the shiny hasn't worn off for me.
It ain't easy and you aren't even raging like a certain chensor 😅
Watching the game for 2yrs+ before it drops
Takes alot for it not to lose its shine when you get it amazing that it didn't.
And it's not like tag 2 where there was so much of everything
shaowebb
Member
It went from eye roll at the teaser to back on my radar with the gameplay and tidbits they dropped. Its not 4 player free for all...it has various modes. 1v1, 2v2, 4 player. Whatever.
Its got me curious and back on my radar with its skill system. It claims its all about using a rider's unique skills often to make them more powerful as you play. "Unique Skills" include form changes mid combo as I saw from Den-O and they specifically said Faiz had a form change as a skill too.
The reason this has me interested again is because from the way combos played it looked like skills may act as a new cancel system to replace the "rider cancels" and more standard cancels like jump cancels from Climax Heroes. IF and only IF they have skills or some cancel system in place will this be an instabuy for me because that sorta stuff is what made Chou Climax Heroes so insanely fun. You were just so flexible and could chain and string together crazy shit. You could just be creative as hell on the fly or in the lab. Incredibly fun. If skills work as cancels (and Den-O made it look like it did) then this'll be good.
Climax Fighters already had one crucial element that games like J Stars Victory Vs failed to understand about arena fighters from what I saw. Spacing. In huge arenas its no fun to have no way to force confrontation. J Stars didn't have, like Pokken or other arena fighters, a lot of tools to throw on the stage to box people in. I already saw really good zoning, area effect tools, and rapid movement options to close gaps in Kamen Rider Climax Fighters plus it didn't look like they abused terrain obstruction with like boxes or crates to any severe level which leads me to believe you may actually get to fight instead of run around all day like in Jstars waiting to hit your exact same combo over and over. Jstars tried to use arena objects to create pockets in the arena that could box you in to force confrontation and that doesn't work. That game felt like if every musou combo had 3000ft knockback and didn't kill. Just huuuuuuge start and stop pacing and environments that just couldn't replace what system mechanics should have handled in terms of forcing confrontation.
Im interested to hear more. I need to know if it has cancels though.
I am just randomly curious; do a lot of top players play other games or non fighting-games.
Like, I know people like Aris play other stuff (even if it is mostly Dark Souls), and I have at least seen Kbrad play FF7.
But then I think of other people like FChamp where he was recently asked if he was interested in playing any other games at all in 2017, and he was just like "nah, all I do is play SF or Mahvel."
I am just shooting the shit, but I was just wondering what these kind of top players do with their time.
Like, I know people like Aris play other stuff (even if it is mostly Dark Souls), and I have at least seen Kbrad play FF7.
But then I think of other people like FChamp where he was recently asked if he was interested in playing any other games at all in 2017, and he was just like "nah, all I do is play SF or Mahvel."
I am just shooting the shit, but I was just wondering what these kind of top players do with their time.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
um, are you in the pittsburgh FGC community groups? steel city tekken and CMUken
isnt it the arcade mode final boss?
Presumably both.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
shaowebb
Member
I know 16 bit likes some stuff. I think Culdcept and Shmups. Floe plays games like "I wanna be the Boshy" and shit for some sick self destructive reason lol
Also a lot of them play card games. Can't remember who it was that was a major pro from Japan but they were all over Hearthstone.
Not familiar with them. I'll look them up now, thanks.
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ZelbZelb
Unconfirmed Member
Hey guys I just got Menat. Can't wait to play as her:
But that joke only worked 5 years ago.
Now it's "but how can it be good if it's made by Capcom?" at least judging by the internet.
It's been a minute since we had people complaining about fighting games being hard on Gaf
I love those threads
SixMachine
Member
Momochi's stream when it isn't SF5 is Splatoon 2.
Osu 16 Bit
Member
Wait, me? Cause I don't play either of those.
When I was top and grinding like crazy I did play other games. This was 2011-2014 before the sponsor/pro league era though. Some of the top guys I know that are grinding the Injustice Pro Series and going to tournaments every weekend do not play other games though. There's no time, they're not even home half the week anymore. So it wouldn't surprise me if some of the pro tour guys either play nothing but portable games for flights or nothing at all.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
I'm enjoying garou
shaowebb
Member
Shit for real? Who the hell was it that used to talk Culdcept and shmups with me then?
Wait...we have a "sixteen-bit " on GAF as well as you here dont we. My mistake.
So...wanna play some culdcept and Senko No Ronde 2
Im actually playing Ibara tonight. G Rev is good but Cave calls to me
ShadowSoldier89
Member
you can shoot me a message if you want, I can link you the facebooks and discords. Im not as active as I used to be since all I play is a little bit of tekken these days
Also, there is monthlies tomorrow on the south side at victory pointe
with your Hit Box?
Apparently, Aris talked about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLayHLrO-s0
Haven't watched the video yet but dude been saying Lili is a great tournament character since launch, he probably gonna love this list.
You could probably just grab a premade pack with the characters that interest you, and if you ever wanna modify it later on you'd have a template ready for it at least.
shaowebb
Member
Just download Everything vs Everything and be done with it. Its preset and ready to go.
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ZelbZelb
Unconfirmed Member
JoJo ASB:
Yoshikage Kira (blue stand) VS Kosaku Kira: (pink stand)
http://www.mmcafe.com/nico.html#http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31857070
I've already talked about these characters before, so I'll just remind you of some things:
1)Both Kiras' projectiles are unblockable.
2)When you hear Kosaku say the word 'cushion', he's applying one hit of invincibility to himself.
3)When Kosaku plants a bomb inside his opponent (they sparkle), he can detonate it at any time and it's unblockable (you can parry it). Yoshikage's can be blocked.
4)Yoshikage's ultra is unblockable.
5)Yes, Koasku's combos/set-ups often involve him parrying his own attacks mid combo.
This is a very close set and both players pull out every trick the can. Very exciting to watch.
I'll try to find some characters that haven't been shown next week.
Yoshikage Kira (blue stand) VS Kosaku Kira: (pink stand)
http://www.mmcafe.com/nico.html#http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31857070
I've already talked about these characters before, so I'll just remind you of some things:
1)Both Kiras' projectiles are unblockable.
2)When you hear Kosaku say the word 'cushion', he's applying one hit of invincibility to himself.
3)When Kosaku plants a bomb inside his opponent (they sparkle), he can detonate it at any time and it's unblockable (you can parry it). Yoshikage's can be blocked.
4)Yoshikage's ultra is unblockable.
5)Yes, Koasku's combos/set-ups often involve him parrying his own attacks mid combo.
This is a very close set and both players pull out every trick the can. Very exciting to watch.
I'll try to find some characters that haven't been shown next week.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
Yeah. I was too lazy to even "learn" hitbox in the lab so I just jumped into tournament with it and figured it out on the spot. I'm pretty comfortable with it already.
Edit: "comfortable" as in doing basic neutral and whatnot and simple combos. Nothing advanced yet but it doesn't feel like I'm using some piece of alien technology.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
NPB free for JP PS+ subscribers
https://twitter.com/examu_PR/status/905340513015947264
https://twitter.com/examu_PR/status/905340513015947264
Tizoc
Member
Not much this week.
2+ Hours of Persona 4 AU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOZNlFO47QM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC-uKrvBnBc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2CepvVrNQ8
2+ Hours of BlazBlue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brzj7fyaTHA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDQMSg2R7hg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_On1V7392t4
3+ Hours of Melty Blood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5mrkyLW9Wo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC5tdQHGEPI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dV-eAkgwnk
2+ Hours of Persona 4 AU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOZNlFO47QM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC-uKrvBnBc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2CepvVrNQ8
2+ Hours of BlazBlue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brzj7fyaTHA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDQMSg2R7hg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_On1V7392t4
3+ Hours of Melty Blood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5mrkyLW9Wo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC5tdQHGEPI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dV-eAkgwnk
.la1n
Member
I don't say it nearly often enough but I appreciate these post. Always provides a variety of fighters to watch.
Thank you for these, always make my Monday a bit better.
Tizoc
Member
2046 would be the 55th anniversary of Street Fighter II's release, being the beginning of the Fighting game scene.
I'll keep posting til then and beyoooooooooooooooooooooooond
shaowebb
Member
If anyone here isn't already aware we got mad MVCI streams on now. Training mode is not embargoed so we got mad tech coming out. ESPECIALLY THE BUM STREAM OMG.
Bum House of Chaos
https://www.twitch.tv/bum1six3
J wong is doin a lot of sets with F Champ. Trying to do the Bum Palmbreaker Thanos loop from NY
https://www.twitch.tv/jwonggg
Maximillian will be on later
https://www.twitch.tv/maximilian_dood
Bum House of Chaos
https://www.twitch.tv/bum1six3
J wong is doin a lot of sets with F Champ. Trying to do the Bum Palmbreaker Thanos loop from NY
https://www.twitch.tv/jwonggg
Maximillian will be on later
https://www.twitch.tv/maximilian_dood
shaowebb
Member
Thanos is sick. He has these nice palmbreaker loops and kara throws and they're still finding shit every other moment. He controls space so damned well with his projectiles, movement and tools. Definitely a dude I expect to see more of after this.
Really sucked seeing Captain Marvel's damage. Scaling is killing her. She lands hits easy though so it looks like it'll work out fine. Especially with her projectile IDGAF move.
Anyone catch the Arthur tech from Bum? I missed it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wzYRN6lS6o
Frosty Faustings going to host TvC on Dolphin as an official game.
Frosty Faustings going to host TvC on Dolphin as an official game.
sixteen-bit
Member
Oh wow, is that a first?
shaowebb
Member
Yup yup yup. They've had good showings for TvC each year. Its pretty much our big event now. Discord is still active and matches are common. The new dolphin shader stuff they added makes it even smoother. Game looks and runs so good its no wonder its bein played on it now because thats how the community plays the game now to keep it alive.
Plus you may not believe it since all most remember were the Zero/Tekka Blade or Zero/Alex shenanigans of Marn from those days but the meta has developed a lot. Quite a few other characters and teams have gained prominence. There are several Joe the Condor and Ippatsuman teams now that are sick. Ippatsuman is no longer an in and out guy for some because some sick loops started getting prominent. He still ins and outs you but if he wants to pour it on he gets good rewards. A ton of Polimar teams, some Batsu guys usually show, Ryu is/has been/always will be used a lot, Cashern be goin for unblockables forever, and overall just lots of variety all the time. Hell theres a Volnutt team that comes up a lot now too.
TvC tournies never seem to be mirrors or single character dominated anymore. Definitely check it out.